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cmcole
06-28-2006, 05:41 AM
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Do you think you're fat?

Provided by: Associated Press
Written by: MARILYNN MARCHIONE
Jun. 27, 2006

(AP) - Why are so many people fat? Scientists have come up with some novel excuses, including air conditioning, lack of sleep, fewer smokers, and more sex among obese people, which can produce chubby kids.
Twinkies aren't the only things weighing America down, these researchers contend in a report published Tuesday in the International Journal of Obesity. "I think it's very creative," said Dr. Robert Kushner, medical director of the weight management program at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago, who had no role in the report. "We are facing an epidemic with no tipping point in the near future. At this point, there are no silly ideas."
However, some critics say the authors' "Top Ten" list of alternative explanations reads more like material for a David Letterman routine than a scientific study.
"I'd put this in the category of 'calorie distracters' - 'Let's just do anything to get people to stop worrying about having to eat less and move more,' " said Marion Nestle, a nutrition professor at New York University and frequent food industry critic. "'And let's not say a word to food companies about misleading and manipulative marketing practices, especially those directed toward children."'
David Allison, a University of Alabama biostatistician, invited 19 other scientists in the United States, Canada and Italy, to work on the report.
They looked at more than 100 studies on potential contributors to obesity besides diet and exercise, and concluded there was at least some support for 10:
1. Inadequate sleep. (Average sleep amounts have fallen, and many studies tie sleep deprivation to weight gain.)
2. Endocrine disruptors, which are substances in some foods that may alter fats in the body.
3. Nice temperatures. (Air conditioning and heating limit calories burned from sweating and shivering.)
4. Fewer people smoking. (Less appetite suppression.)
5. Medicines that cause weight gain.
6. Population changes. (More middle-agers and Hispanics, who have higher obesity rates.)
7. Older birth moms. (That correlates with heavier children).
8. Genetic influences during pregnancy.
9. Darwinian natural selection. (Fat people outsurvive skinny ones).
10. Assortative mating, or "like mating with like," as Allison puts it. Translation: fat people procreating with others of the same body type, gradually skewing the population toward the heavy end.
Not that people necessarily should try to alter these factors, Allison said. For example, "we would never recommend that people start smoking to reduce their body weight."
The same for medications that can lead to weight gain, though doctors may want to consider alternatives if a patient piles on pounds, said Dr. Louis Aronne, a Weill-Cornell Medical School nutrition expert who is past president of the Obesity Society, the leading group of researchers in the field.
Allison said no food or beverage makers funded any part of the report, though he and some collaborators consult for such companies.
The point is, there is more to obesity than diet and exercise, he said. "These are 10 reasonable hypotheses, and as scientists, we should be open-minded," Allison said.


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Gabriel Guzman
06-29-2006, 09:36 AM
Nice example of 'when in doubt... confuse them!' :)

To me it's just too funny when I read comments like this:


...we should be open-minded...


When these comments come from a scientist, it's just funny that having so much evidence flying in their faces, they still don't open their minds to the possibility that the problem is not as complicated as they think it is and that nutritional intervention that is more accord to the way we have evolved may prove more effective than anything else in the majority of cases.

So let's see where minds aren't still opened yet:


A calorie is not a calorie and the procedence of 'calories' does matter.
We are not designed to survive on eating excess carbohdyrates.
Carbohydrates are just another source of energy, not the only one, more efficient or the preferred energy source by most tissues.
The need for dietary carbohdyrate is not as high as we've been taught. In fact the absence of protein or fat is more detrimental for health than the absence of carbohdyrate.
Obesity is not a disease but a symptom of an underlying cause.
We didn't evolve exercising 8 hrs a day, but we did evolve to move more.
Exercise alone (for fat loss only), although helps, is not more effective than exercising and carbohydrate restriction and the combination of the two is even more effective than just reducing dietary carbohyrate.
Dietary fat doesn't make you fatter unless it comes with a generous amount of carbohydrate.
Carbohydrate restriction is more effective than statin therapy to normalize cholesterol levels, which includes a recomposition of all cholesterol players (LDL, HDL, TGs) not just one of them (LDL)


The list goes on, doesn't it?

This explains it better...


There is no adequate defense, except stupidity, against the impact of a new idea.

laughingW
06-29-2006, 11:16 AM
I love your list, Gabe. Pretty much sums it up.

realruth
06-29-2006, 05:38 PM
No 8....Dietary fat doesn't make you fatter unless it comes with a generous amount of carbohydrates

I don't think this one is totally true.....

I know I've gained weight within the PP plan last yr and have not been able to lose hardly any of it despite STILL only eating 30ecc OR LESS.

I just don't go off the program EVER !

So at the moment FAT is making me fat......of course other hormone issues are there...but they must be influencing the role of storage of fat.

I have been doing some reading online and have been following up some interesting articles. But as yet haven't got enough info to put together a response worthy of discussion ;)

mcsblues
06-29-2006, 08:32 PM
Yes, as you know I agree with Ruth ;) - I will have to devote some time to researching this more (so that it is more than just annecdotal from me, Ruth and as Janet says quite a few others here).

I did find one study (http://docstore.ingenta.com/cgi-bin/ds_deliver/1/u/d/ISIS/30237188.1/cabi/bjn/2000/00000084/00000002/art00014/969337DE597605A6115163109708F354C1F6F22D65.pdf?lin k=http://www.ingentaconnect.com/error/delivery&format=pdf) which compared weight gain on very tightly controlled excess calories with a high and low carb group (there was no significant difference) but I guess people will say the low carb group wasn't low enough. It does provide some interesting leads in terms of where and what type of energy/macronutrients are excreted - which was strongly influenced by the two diets;