Post Meal BS Rises

[Omlette]

What is an ideal range for a post meal rise to be? Do you measure at 30 minutes or an hour?

Mine rise after breakfast at a 45 min to 1 hour range was 10 points.

BTW, I am battleling pre-diabetes. I have just gotten back on the program after years off.

[gitfiddle]

What is an ideal range for a post meal rise to be? It used to be to stay under 140, which is where damage can start. What is your pre-meal count? Do you measure at 30 minutes or an hour? When I was tracking my bs after I quit some meds, I tested at one hour (after beginning to eat) and two hours. If my two-hour number was higher than I liked, I would do one at three hours.

Mine rise after breakfast at a 45 min to 1 hour range was 10 points.
Mine often goes higher at the 2-hour mark. It depends on your beta cells and how they are impaired. It gets complicated. If a person eats a lot of protein at a meal, the rise might be later.
BTW, I am battleling pre-diabetes. I have just gotten back on the program after years off.This is the place to be then, Mo. One site I like for general information is bloodsugar101.com. Her writing style is clear and she covers lots of topics. I've been told that she's not always 100% accurate, but I've learned a lot there and a read lots of other sites.

[Omlette]

Carol - my pre-meal number this morning was 110. I know what the numbers should be, but I am curious at what a good post-meal increase is to know which food really affect the body.

I might be taking it too far trying to figure that part out.

[gitfiddle]

Carol - my pre-meal number this morning was 110. I know what the numbers should be, but I am curious at what a good post-meal increase is to know which food really affect the body.

I might be taking it too far trying to figure that part out. No, I don't think so, Mo. Knowledge is power. I'd be content with ten points. I also look to see how soon it drops back to normal. When I'm feeling obsessive, I will check every half hour, but that's not necessary.

[Omlette]

LOL. I can get obsessive.

My morning sugars bother me more than anything. They are between 118 & 130 no matter what I eat at night. Next week, I am going to start have a "full-meal" snack around 4 or 5, then drink me a shake around 7'ish.

I just feel the need for something at night, besides the fact that i am a late dinner eater. There are many times that I don't eat dinner until 9 p.m. Last night I was through with dinner by 8 p.m. I had grilled chicken breast, grilled veggies (squash, zuchinni, mushroom, and red bell pepper) probably a 1 cup total, and 1/2 cup to a cup of strawberries. My morning sugar was 127 at 6:30 a.m. By 9, when I got ready to eat breakfast, it was 110.

[gitfiddle]

My morning sugars bother me more than anything. They are between 118 & 130 no matter what I eat at night. Next week, I am going to start have a "full-meal" snack around 4 or 5, then drink me a shake around 7'ish. I'll tell you, if I haven't already, everybody has a different way of handling it. Keep tweaking. The Bernstein forum has much info on Dawn Phenomenon.

I'm doing well right now, but I haven't always. Sometimes it depends on whether I get up at six or nine a.m., but sometimes it doesn't seem to make a difference! It's frustrating!

[Belfrybat]

The Rule of thumb for diabetics is the 2 hour postprandial should be below 140. That's not what the mainstream teaching is--the ADA says 160, and one group even states 180, but diabetic complications begin at 140.

Carol mentioned Dr. Bernstein. He teaches that folks shouldn't have more than a 10 point rise at the 2 hour mark. Although I respect him greatly and certainly appreciate his wisdom in treating diabetes with a low carb diet, I just can't be disciplined enough to follow his WOE. It is very restrictive.

As to DP, it is a bugaboo for many pre-diabetics and stage 2 diabetics. It is caused by the liver dumping glucose into the bloodstream shortly before rising. It is what gives us the energy to get out of bed in the mornings, but those of us with insulin resistance can't manage it. Taking Metformin at night helps control that. If you don't want to go the meds route, then eating very light in the evenings might help. YMMV. Many folks swear by a 20 minute walk after the evening meal -- not heavy exercise. I haven't found it helps me, but I'd recommend you try it to see if you gain benefit from it.