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petra65
05-04-2008, 08:10 AM
Carnitine

Carnitine’s primary function in the cell is as a carrier molecule. It transports fatty acids into the mitochondria where they can then be used as an energy source. It would therefore make logical sense, that you can only move as much fatty acid, as you have carnitine.

Carnitine is found mostly in meat; more so in red meat. In the average American diet today we consume about 50 mg daily. Estimates of what our stone age ancestors ate are in the 500-2000 mg/day range. The amount recommended for optimal health is 250-500 mg/day. The answer appears to be either to eat more meat or take supplements or both.

The primary source for my information was “The Carnitine Miracle” by Robert Crayhon who is a Nutritionist. He does have references for most of his claims so if anyone wants the references, ask and I’ll give them to you. Additionally, I have a contact at his foundation where I can get additional information if you are interested. This is difficult to summarize, because the book is really about his ideas about how to achieve optimal health through better nutrition and lifestyle and how carnitine fits into that picture. I’m trying to pick pieces out of the book.

Crayhon reports numerous benefits to Carnitine. He recommends specifically the tartrate form. Because I said I would look into the weight loss angle, I’m going to focus on that. He recommends a dosage between 1000-4000 mg daily to promote weight loss. Additionally, he recommends a low carb diet (no more than 50% of calories) and high in omega-3 fatty acids. He outlines a weight loss program that is very similar to PP and utilizes carnitine as a supplement. He also reports that carnitine helps reduce food cravings and maintain steady blood glucose levels. Additionally, he reports that it has benefits in exercise endurance, reduce triglyceride levels and a myriad of other health conditions. He cites a journal article that carnitine increases weight loss eleven fold. However, I looked to see what this journal article is and it is a study in adolescents. I haven’t read the original article but I would be skeptical of that as what works in adolescents may or may not work in adults. We have very different hormonal milieus.

I would recommend this book to anyone who might be interested in this topic or nutritional medicine. Much of the nutritional information is a rehashing of PPLP but he goes into specific medical conditions in detail and makes recommendations about supplements that may be helpful.

Mal Lady
05-04-2008, 08:17 AM
Petre65, thanks for posting your findings. I have some l-cartinine mixed in with 2 other ingredients, maybe I should start taking it on a regular basis???!!!??? Did you have any specific websites that you used to find the info at?

Sharon

petra65
05-04-2008, 01:16 PM
www.crayhonresearch.com (http://www.crayhonresearch.com)

maxlharris
05-04-2008, 01:49 PM
Mary, thank you.

Gold star for follow through.

Missy
05-04-2008, 07:41 PM
Thanks Mary!!!!!!!

Moretta
05-04-2008, 10:30 PM
Thanks for the information.

maxlharris
05-05-2008, 07:45 AM
Saw the preferred version of L-Carn at CVS for I think it was $6.99 or $7.99 for 30 days worth. Not available at my local Trader Joes.

petra65
05-05-2008, 08:35 AM
It tends to be expensive.

Shadow
05-05-2008, 09:35 AM
Thanks, Mary! I really enjoyed Robert Crayon's book :nod:. It's thanks to him that I got off the vicious carb cycle and then searched some more to discover PP. I've never looked back :D!

Rhyme'n Reason
05-06-2008, 07:42 PM
Thanks, Mary.

According to Max's numbers, CVS is a lot cheaper than the Vitamin Shoppe. I'll be checking it out.

maxlharris
05-07-2008, 07:37 AM
Back at CVS, apparently the sale is over. 2 Bottles at 500mg/horse pill and 30 per bottle for $14.99.

I wish I could find that damn rewards coupon for CVS. I got like $10 or so in free, non-pharma stuff. Would bring this back to the level of cheap. At any rate, we'll see. Started on Tuesday with it.

Lizzie
05-31-2008, 11:24 AM
I find that L-carnitine gives me a sense of well being. Does anyone else experience that? Maybe just placebo. I read the book many years ago. I'm not so great at taking supplements regularly this thread was a good reminder.

naturalhealth
10-27-2008, 04:13 PM
Thanks so much for all of that great information! I've heard many people say how much L-Carnitine has helped them, and I'm looking into it as well. It's also really good for the brain and mental performance, so that's an added bonus as well. Anyway, I get my supplements all online, because I tend to find better deals, so you might try that as well. Good luck!

nrobles
10-28-2008, 05:22 AM
L Glutamine had been mentioned as a carb "hunger" suppressor. Now carnitine is mentioned. What specific supplements besides multivitamins should one take during weight loss/exercise?. What would be the proper "timing" for taking them? I'm doing the gym thing and recommendations abound in the literature as to what to take before and after this and that. I'd really like to get a good idea as to what supplements to take and the proper timing if this will affect performance.

maxlharris
10-28-2008, 11:03 AM
Nrobles: You don't have to take anything. You are generally welcome to add whatever.
Things I have added in the past:
DHA/EPA/Fish oil: Very worthwhile.
L-Glu: Just for carb craving. I don't get this very badly since my first go around with Atkins, so I haven't taken it since 2002.
L-carn: Didn't notice any effect, but research seems pretty robust.
CLA: Supposed to promote muscle growth. Can be expensive. Can also be had from beef, particuarly grass fed and such.

Omlette
10-28-2008, 11:27 AM
I was looking at a mag the other day that says to take Acetly L-Carnitine with ALA. Said that if they are not taken together that energy level can be lowered. They suggests one from Walgreens - Natures Bounty Acetyl L-Carnitine with ALA in a single pill. $13.49 for the bottle of 30 caps.

KeithS
10-31-2008, 04:03 PM
I have been taking L-Carnitine w/ ALA 400mg/100mg for a couple of years now. I feel it gives me more energy and endurance when doing aerobic exercise. The L-Carnitine gets used up in the body after about 3 hours. I take one with ALA in the morning and a couple more plain 500mg L-Carnitine when I rember throughout the day. I've been reading up on lipid kenetics lately and think that it helps with fatty acid transport to fuel mitochondria in the cells and that's why I have more energy.

The Alpha Lipoic Acid - not to be confused with apha linoleic acid - is a great antioxidant that is both fat and water soluble. I don't know why they are supposed to work better together.

sharongmc
11-13-2008, 07:37 PM
wow, thank you for the information.. it is very helpful. . .