Do you like Chicken Leg Quarters?

[RedTerror]

Hello all: Do you guys like Chicken Leg Quarters? I am asking this because Chicken Leg Quarters tend to be real low priced at supermarkets. So i would like to know if it's a good option for protein and moderate fats in our diet as part of our high protein, low carb diets?

Thanx all

redterror

[LisaS]

sure .

[maxlharris]

Great option. Probably even cheaper are just chicken thighs. Easy to debone, more flavorful than boneless skinless chicken breast, and more satiating as well. But leg quarters are great options too.

[Ammy]

I like them. :D

[Tresses]

Made them for dinner last Friday, as a matter of fact. :)

[NaeMo]

I love to roast them and eat the crispy skin first! Juicy, tasty meat, unlike B/S chix breast.

[RedTerror]

hmm is the skin allowed to be eaten too? I thought you guys tookout the skin? How about pork? I went to Wal-Mart today and i noticed that pork is cheaper than red meat. Is pork ok for the low carb diet as well?

:)

redterror

[Mitra]

All meat is allowed - skin too.

[Gaelen]

hmm is the skin allowed to be eaten too? I thought you guys tookout the skin? How about pork? I went to Wal-Mart today and i noticed that pork is cheaper than red meat. Is pork ok for the low carb diet as well?

Hi, RedTerror.
I was about to respond to another of your posts (the one about cream of wheat) but I did a little search on all of your posts and decided to respond here with a couple of my own questions...

Which book(s) have you read--Protein Power, Protein Power Lifeplan, The 30 Day Low Card Diet Solution?

What is your daily minimum protein requirement? What is your lean body mass? What kind of menus are you typically eating (you might want to post those in the menus or daily challenge threads.)

You really really DO need to read at least one of the Drs. Eadeses' books to gain a better understanding of some fundamentals of low carb eating--

you count carbs, not calories
eating fats is not going to kill you...in fact, it's encouraged!
all foods are allowed in PP-acceptable portion sizes
adequate protein daily is the key to success


If you don't have one of the books and are waiting for an order from a bookstore, try checking out "Protein Power in a Nutshell" in the Getting Started forums at the top of the page. You may also be able to find one of the books at your local library.

Questions are great, but the ones you're asking (are various meats okay, is skim or 1% milk better for fat loss, can I use baking powder, is cream of wheat fattening and can I use it in my pancakes) all point to a basic lack of understanding about low carbing in general and Protein Power in particular. We're here to help--but there's really no substitute for actually reading about the plan as the authors wrote it, and making an effort to understand how Protein Power works.

Welcome in!

[RedTerror]

Hi how are you: Well i have just quit eating cream of wheat, and oatmeal. I tried it today and i think it bloated me. I will try to maintain my carbohydrate intake at 70 grams a day for the whole day as to maintain low insulin levels and high glucagon levels

Well i read the whole book "Protein Power: The high protein/low carbohydrate way to lose weight." I have that one and i have read it. I know its basic theory that we must maintain a low carb intake in order to maintain low insulin levels during the day while creating the conditions for high glucagon levels (The fat burning hormone), and encourages resistance weight training as exercise.

Here is my diet:

Breakfast: a high protein pancake:

1 scoop (30 grams) of soy protein
1/2 cup of egg beaters
1/2 cup of water
vanilla, a bit of salt and splenda

Mix all ingredients and cook with cooking spray


Lunch:

9 oz of baked-roasted chicken
1/3 cup of boiled rice
green veggies


Dinner:

A whey protein shake

2 scoops of Body Fortress Vanilla Protein
1 cup of 1% milk
a lot of ice
splenda
vanilla
About 3 apples, cut up in square pieces, after the protein shake

shake all in the blender for about 4 minutes, add ice as desired


And i follow a weight training routine that is like this:

TUESDAYS + SATURDAYS

Chest:

Bench Press 15-12-5-(1 max rep)
Incline Press: 8-1 (max rep)
Incline flys: 12-12

Back on the pulley machine behind the neck:
10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10


WEDNESDAYS + SUNDAYS

Shoulders:
Military barbell press behind neck:

6-6-6-6-6-6
dumbell press for shoulders: 12-12

Barbell bicep curls: 10-10-10-10
Tricep extensions: 12-12-12-12

Aerobic exercise: stationary bicycling 45 minutes (5 days a week)


My stack of supplements are:

Whey protein
Glutamine
Creatine
Armour thyroid (For my low thyroid)
Chromium Picolinate


Thanx

RedTerror




Hi, RedTerror.
I was about to respond to another of your posts (the one about cream of wheat) but I did a little search on all of your posts and decided to respond here with a couple of my own questions...

Which book(s) have you read--Protein Power, Protein Power Lifeplan, The 30 Day Low Card Diet Solution?

What is your daily minimum protein requirement? What is your lean body mass? What kind of menus are you typically eating (you might want to post those in the menus or daily challenge threads.)

You really really DO need to read at least one of the Drs. Eadeses' books to gain a better understanding of some fundamentals of low carb eating--

you count carbs, not calories
eating fats is not going to kill you...in fact, it's encouraged!
all foods are allowed in PP-acceptable portion sizes
adequate protein daily is the key to success
If you don't have one of the books and are waiting for an order from a bookstore, try checking out "Protein Power in a Nutshell" in the Getting Started forums at the top of the page. You may also be able to find one of the books at your local library.

Questions are great, but the ones you're asking (are various meats okay, is skim or 1% milk better for fat loss, can I use baking powder, is cream of wheat fattening and can I use it in my pancakes) all point to a basic lack of understanding about low carbing in general and Protein Power in particular. We're here to help--but there's really no substitute for actually reading about the plan as the authors wrote it, and making an effort to understand how Protein Power works.

Welcome in!

[Gaelen]

I will try to maintain my carbohydrate intake at 70 grams a day for the whole day as to maintain low insulin levels and high glucagon levels

RedTerror, despite all of the gentle 'it's your own science experiement' counsel, the bottom line is that for most people, 70g of carbs per day (especially the kind of low fiber carbs you list in your menus, so it's nearly 70g effective carbs) is maintenance eating. Most people, especially those new to low carbing, will not lose on that level of carb intake. If you have health issues like elevated blood sugars, bad lipid profiles, etc., those things will likely NOT improve until you reduce carbs to the level recommended by PP to correct health issues. Since you've read the original book, that's 30g ECC. The newer book suggests 40g ECC to start, and staying there until health issues are resolved. Once health issues have been corrected, you can move up to around 55g ECC per day, and begin experimenting with the transition to maintenance.

Until then, you need to stay under 40g ECC per day, and around 10g ECC maximum per meal. If you tweak to something other than those recommendations for whatever reasons, cool--but you are not following this plan and you're not necessarily doing yourself any good. It's also pretty much impossible to offer you dietary advice if you're basically making up your own plan.


Well i read the whole book "Protein Power: The high protein/low carbohydrate way to lose weight." I have that one and i have read it. I know its basic theory that we must maintain a low carb intake in order to maintain low insulin levels during the day while creating the conditions for high glucagon levels (The fat burning hormone), and encourages resistance weight training as exercise.

Good. You might want to cruise through it again. You've missed a couple critical basic theories-- protein is the cornerstone of this plan; carb consumption is not a dietary mandate no matter your exercise regimen; and eating fats and foods as close as possible to natural sources are all important to eating for better health and low carbing in general. Your menus bear out this observation that you've missed these important points.

You've been offered a lot of advice here, but seem disinclined to listen to it. As I point out to students after a certain point in their questioning process--asked and answered...now it's up to you to take the information you've received and actually use it.

[RedTerror]

Hello, i thank you so much for taking your time and effort to explain me how the plan works. I think i will do what you said. i will downsize the carb intake to 50 grs. for some weeks and then measure myself, my body weight to see any changes.

Thanks a lot :)

Redterror


RedTerror, despite all of the gentle 'it's your own science experiement' counsel, the bottom line is that for most people, 70g of carbs per day (especially the kind of low fiber carbs you list in your menus, so it's nearly 70g effective carbs) is maintenance eating. Most people, especially those new to low carbing, will not lose on that level of carb intake. If you have health issues like elevated blood sugars, bad lipid profiles, etc., those things will likely NOT improve until you reduce carbs to the level recommended by PP to correct health issues. Since you've read the original book, that's 30g ECC. The newer book suggests 40g ECC to start, and staying there until health issues are resolved. Once health issues have been corrected, you can move up to around 55g ECC per day, and begin experimenting with the transition to maintenance.

Until then, you need to stay under 40g ECC per day, and around 10g ECC maximum per meal. If you tweak to something other than those recommendations for whatever reasons, cool--but you are not following this plan and you're not necessarily doing yourself any good. It's also pretty much impossible to offer you dietary advice if you're basically making up your own plan.



Good. You might want to cruise through it again. You've missed a couple critical basic theories-- protein is the cornerstone of this plan; carb consumption is not a dietary mandate no matter your exercise regimen; and eating fats and foods as close as possible to natural sources are all important to eating for better health and low carbing in general. Your menus bear out this observation that you've missed these important points.

You've been offered a lot of advice here, but seem disinclined to listen to it. As I point out to students after a certain point in their questioning process--asked and answered...now it's up to you to take the information you've received and actually use it.