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cmcole
11-02-2006, 07:36 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061101.wfatwine1101/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home


Wine adds spirit to portly mice


SETH BORENSTEIN
Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Obese mice on a high-fat diet got the benefits of being thin — living healthier, longer lives — without the pain of dieting when they consumed huge doses of red wine extract, according to a landmark new study.
It's far too early to know if this would work in people, scientists said. But several were excited by the findings, calling it promising and even “spectacular.”


The 55 resveratrol-treated obese mice were on a high-calorie diet — what one scientist called a “McDonald's diet.” Not only were they about as healthy as normal mice, they were also as agile and active on exercise equipment as their lean cousins, demonstrating a normal quality of life that was unexpected for such obese creatures, said study co-author Rafael de Cabo of the Institute on Aging.
“These fat old mice can perform as well on this skill test as young lean mice,” Dr. Sinclair said.
The only major body measurement that didn't improve — aside from weight — was cholesterol, and that didn't seem to matter in the overall health of the mice, Dr. Sinclair said.


Dr. Helfand said he won't be taking red wine extract supplements — but he has put his elderly parents on them. Such supplements are available at health food stores and on-line, but not at dose levels equivalent to what the mice in the experiment got — roughly equal to 100 bottles of wine a day in humans.
Mice, he said, are good initial test subjects for human drugs because their bodies function similarly to humans in many ways. However, the differences between mouse and man can prove crucial, he noted.
Dr. Sinclair said he takes resveratrol supplements, but doesn't recommend it for others.
Resveratrol works by spurring activity and regrowth in cells' mitochondria, which Dr. Sinclair called “the energy powerhouses of the cell.”
Some scientists, such as Dr. Weindruch and Dr. Hodes, worry

Bogie
11-02-2006, 02:49 PM
Not fair unless we can get the cats to smoke some weed...

mcsblues
11-02-2006, 03:25 PM
As I understand it the mice didn't 'lose pounds' (yikes, you have mice weighing pounds!?) but the resveratrol allowed the 'fat old mice' to have significant health benefits ... apart from their cholesterol (a big worry in mice :rolleyes:) which also didn't change.

Belfrybat
11-02-2006, 09:39 PM
100 bottles of wine a day? I'd have to have a portable porta potti strapped on my back! :D

mcsblues
11-03-2006, 01:04 AM
Yes, I'd say its not half as much fun in a pill!:p

Bogie
11-03-2006, 04:31 AM
Oh, heck... Just think of the corkscrew...

Mitra
11-03-2006, 04:32 AM
That's why the Australians had to invent wine boxes.

mcsblues
11-03-2006, 07:25 AM
:lol: - but only so we can export the cheap plonk to the UK!

I prefer the good stuff - which these days is more and more likely to have a Stelvin cap ... so you might get RSI Bogie ... but no corkscrew required!:)

Mitra
11-03-2006, 07:31 AM
:lol: - but only so we can export the cheap plonk to the UK!

It must undergo some transformation on the way - by the time it gets here, it's expensive plonk ;) . In fact, it's so expensive, we've had to go back to drinking claret instead :D (which still has real corks, though I suppose you could try to get it the old fashioned way, in a barrel - I've been reading Pepys's diary, and that's how his wine was delivered. I don't think wine bottles were used much until the end of the 18th century)

mcsblues
11-03-2006, 04:19 PM
Actually I understand Australia has overtaken France as the chief source of your wine and that "Boozy Brits (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1398938.stm)" :lol: are drinking more and more! I also gather there is now a demand for local bottling of bulk imports (tankers?:p) to save on the additional carbon released as a result of shipping bottles from the other side of the world.

Samuel Pepys would be proud!

mcsblues
11-03-2006, 08:57 PM
It seems wine might help cows gain (http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Wine-pampers-top-quality-WA-beef-cows/2006/11/04/1162340082977.html) not lose ... but I still think I'd link to drink the wine with the steak, not have it done for me!

Mitra
11-04-2006, 02:02 AM
Definitely :lol:.

Maybe we're out of step with our countrymen, because I'm afraid there's not much from Australia (or North America) in our cellar - France, Italy, Germany are the main ones, with a bit from South America, New Zealand. It's not that we don't like them, but good Australian and Californian wines are more expensive than French wines of similar quality these days (though that wasn't true a few years ago).

Mitra
11-04-2006, 02:27 AM
I also gather there is now a demand for local bottling of bulk imports (tankers?:p) to save on the additional carbon released as a result of shipping bottles from the other side of the world.

My resident wine consultant tells me that it's shipped in large containers with an inner lining - sort of huge wine boxes. Just the thing for a party ;).