October Challenge Day 20

[Mitra]

You will never change your life until you change something you do daily.
(Mike Murdock)

As the boss is back, I thought I'd try and get on her good side by using her quote ;).

Friday again. Are there any challenges for you in the weekend ahead? Do you have plans in place to deal with them? A challenge could be a social situation where it's hard to make good choices, or it could just be that the weekend is less structured than the week days.

I'm just overwhelmed with the way this challenge is going. There's such a sense of community support. I'm grateful that you're letting me share in it.

[cmcole]

I'm preparing to ruin a few more people's morning by re-imaging their machines before the public comes to get attention.

Yeah for me!! I always look forward to starting the day off like that.

Actually, I'd rather be at the gym, but I promised I'd be here early to start this, in case something went horrid like yesterday.

Will check in again later.

Thanks, btw, for starting this thread - even though it's not or has never been my responsibility. For someone who wasn't even going to join in the challenge, I've turned into a chatty little character, now, haven't I?

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Later:

I knew I should have listened to my dreams/nightmares last night. Nothing worked this morning, and now I have four computers totally wiped out, and no communication with the server to restore them. Of course, I have a number of people, including the manager, totally ticked off at me.

Called the person who upgraded our switches last night to see if he might lend some assistance, and he said, "that's what they get for putting unqualified people in to do a job". I really needed that this morning. I have enough lack of self confidence, having no formal degrees in this field, but having on-the-job experience and an A+ certification, but not a BSc in computer sciences degree.

Can I just go hide in a hole and hope it all goes away?

[Billie]

Indeed it is Friday!


Ten hut troups!!!

What are your plans for the weekend, Mitra got you started off just great? I mean IN ADDITION to being accountable here on the board, no MIAs and getting in your 5 basics? Planning is crucial!

Gabe and I will be going to the gym, right? :cool: That is on the top of both of our honey-do lists. We need a grocery run particularly for protein and veggies. Having coffee with friends but other than that we have nothing too planned. I did happen to read a rough draft of a new challenge--GET READY!

We have stuck close together and done well...support is awesome! Since the major is back in town, expect to see a few more PMs from me and who is going to follow Joanne with a profile? Do I need to do a draft? :eek:

Great day troupers!

[Billie]

CM no need to hide. You just tell them you were hired to do the job, you are doing the job and cut the scarcism and help you identify and solve the problem, other wise the troups will be descending their way..and no employer would want these commando's!!!

[cmcole]

However, Billie, as I am not a permanent employee, I could be let go at any time they choose.

[kpow]

Good morning!

She's baaack! Good to see you, Major! :)

Oh, CM, I'm sorry things aren't going well. Here's hoping things will be resolved quickly. :)

Hi, Mitra. The weekend, hmm. I'm singing at a funeral tomorrow morning, then heading to my local pub for football watching. They have an awesome salad that is totally on plan, minus the croutons, of course. Sun. is church then a birthday dinner at an oriental restaurant for 2 family members. I've never been there so I don't know what they have that is PP-friendly, but I'll do my darndest to find something!

I've met my exercise goal for the week-4 out of 5 days so far. :D

Enjoy the weekend.

Kathy

[BeccainSC]

Not sure exactly what's in the works for this weekend.... the "known" items include taking daughter #2 to do her stint at the library tomorrow morning and daughter #1 to the zoo tomorrow night to help pass out candies to the little ones for the "Boo at the Zoo" this weekend.

Definitely some college ball in there..... ESPN's GameDay is at my son's college so he's planning on camping out tonight to hopefully get on screen. It's their homecoming too so hopefully GD will play it up. Of course the game is tomorrow night so gonna eat an early dinner. My other team (USC-E) is playing in the afternoon but I'm not into it so much that I'm gonna PAY to watch on TV so I'll catch what I can of it on the radio.

Hoping to get some yard work done (ohhhh exercise!) as we now have more leaves than grass. :rolleyes: The trick there is getting my "helpers" out there with me.

Hubby's vacation starts Sunday, should make for an interesting week as he's forever wanting to go out for lunch when he's home (and to places with yummy fries or chocolate cheesecake). I'm hoping I can convince him to eat at home at least most of the time.

Sunday is usually pretty full with church things as the girls have meetings in the late afternoon as well that pretty much means we don't have time for much after lunch and when they get home it's time to start thinking about dinner.

'becca

[abbey]

Welcome back Billie!

I've already faced my challenge for the weekend which was a boozy evening with friends who came over for dinner, however I stuck to 2 glasses of red wine and let them all enjoy the rest (I just sampled one out of each bottle I opened).. and I'm glad I took one of my friends words and ordered myself another 6 of the Tempranillo.. I can see that becoming a favourite for summer if I can keep on getting my hands on it.

Goes really well with roast chicken too, which is unusual for a red..

[cmcole]

Well, my weekend isn't planned yet, as my hubby arrives home this evening. Probably the gym and church will factor in there, but as for the rest, nothing definite, yet.

Work just keeps getting more complicated, but as long as I can take it as a learning experience, I should be able to hold my head erect.

The problem this morning was with the "image" that we were trying to install. The next older one worked fine (after trying the newest one multiple times). Shortly after all that, someone from one of our other offices visited and told me of a problem with the "standard" newest image - a "fix" that nobody told me about - and a problem that disables the administrative rights of the technician (me), making it impossible to continue to do work on that particular machine. I'm somewhat bummed, and now realize it is why I've been having issues with certain machines recently.

I'll have to get direction on how to fix all the machines I've issued so far with that newer image. One bonus is that the longer it takes to fix - the longer I will likely stay employed. That's my happy thought for the day.

I think I'm going to break out my thermos of coffee and sit here for a while pondering life as we know it :)

[Gabriel Guzman]

A challenge I would gladly take is to have people over for dinner and make a nice PP-like dinner (without telling anybody) and have them enjoy that. I'm sure they wouldn't even notice the difference in the dessert. A few days ago I was thinking that when somebody is diabetic and people around know that, they don't even ask about food preferences. They immediatey assume that the person is limiting sugars and the like and actually cook accordingly. If we say is limiting sugars and starches in favor of more protein and green vegetables, then we get the look...

For the most part, I stopped thinking on 'the real thing' and 'the alternative thing' when I think of cooking. True, some things are not meant to be lower-carb as they really need sugar for the adequate texture (take meringues for example). But for other foods, particularly desserts, there are so many lower-carb versions of traditional desserts that I bet people wouldn't even notice the difference until they're told. That has been my experience with some cakes and pastries when I make the lower-carb versions. I think my first experience with this was pancakes, when I started making 'ricotta pancakes' based on Fran McCoullough's cook book. My friends in Sweden loved them and couldn't really tell what was different. They new I was using different ingredients but never crossed their mind that each pancake would pack a nice amount of protein and little carbohydrate in comparison with 'the real thing'. The same thing happened with the spice cake, granola and the flourless chocolate cake. Last year, I made a low-carb version pumpkin pie, based on a recipe from the Eades and using a nutty crust. I brought that a few days after Thanksgiving and one of my friends went crazy for it. This time, however, she ask "is this a 'modified' version"? :) and she asked for the recipe because she thought it was as good as the traditional pie she makes every year.

Ahhh... all this rant... :redface: must be the Friday effect. I don't even know what got me thinking about this. Maybe it's that once you get momentum in what we're doing, we just don't want to stop and sometimes it just seems unfair that we have to because we need think that our alternative way of making things is not as good as 'the real thing'. I enjoy food and I like to think that it is.

Anyway, enjoy any challenges that come your way for this weekend!

[Gabriel Guzman]

CM... I think I must have missed it... When you say you have to install a new 'image' in the computers, what is that? Software? What business are you in? (if you don't mind my asking)

[Mitra]

I can see your perspective, Gabe, but when I've made a choice not to eat artificial sweeteners, I wouldn't appreciate someone sneaking them in even if I couldn't tell the difference. Any more than I would try to sneak animal products in when feeding a vegetarian guest - or extra sugar and flour when feeding a low carb guest.

[Mitra]

Abbey, one of my favourite wines is a Spanish tempranillo. I wonder when I can find an excuse to open a bottle :cool:...

[cmcole]

CM... I think I must have missed it... When you say you have to install a new 'image' in the computers, what is that? Software? What business are you in? (if you don't mind my asking)

An image is a "copy" of the contents of the hard drive. Sometimes it is based on a particular machine, if there are pecularities, but usually, now, you boot the machine with a disk containing all the drivers, and then install the image.

The image contains not only the operating system, but all the software programs that are peculiar to the organization/department. I'm with the federal government, although there are outside organizations that use "ghost" technology, as well.

This can be done on one machine at a time, or up to thirty using Power Cast multi-tasking which transmits it from the server to the individual computers, as long as they are connected to the LAN, and booted with the Power Cast disk, which connects them to the DHCP server.

You set up a session with a particular name (which is on the boot disk as well), indicating how many clients you are going to connect. Then, you go around and boot all the clients workstations, and, once the server detects the appropriate number of IP addresses, it begins to transmit the "image" to each machine simultaneously.

After each machine is imaged, it is in a "raw" state, and must be renamed to our naming convention and rejoined to the domain. Then, printers and defaults specific to the user/section need to be added.

Hope this answers your query somewhat. I tried not to get too involved or ramble with inane terms.

[abbey]

A challenge I would gladly take is to have people over for dinner and make a nice PP-like dinner (without telling anybody) and have them enjoy that. I'm sure they wouldn't even notice the difference in the dessert. A few days ago I was thinking that when somebody is diabetic and people around know that, they don't even ask about food preferences. They immediatey assume that the person is limiting sugars and the like and actually cook accordingly. If we say is limiting sugars and starches in favor of more protein and green vegetables, then we get the look...





Ahhhh.. all my friends know that I'm cuting out starches etc, and in general they are all very supportive. One of them brought dessert tonight and it was strawberries, blueberries and raspberries with whipped cream sweetened with splenda and vanilla. I've got lovely friends..

And they all love my cooking. I usually make a protein main with one carby side (potato/pasta/polenta etc) which I don't eat and a couple of simple veggies like steamed green beans and asparagus. Everyone is happy - most of my friends are big meat eaters though, so tonight was 2 roast chickens (for 5 of us) seasoned with lemon and garlic and herbs with roasted potato, butternut squash and carrots with green beans on the side.

Not gourmet, but still good and ribsticking!

[abbey]

Abbey, one of my favourite wines is a Spanish tempranillo. I wonder when I can find an excuse to open a bottle :cool:...

It's the weekend! Isn't that a good enough excuse?

To be honest, most of next week is going to be a sozzled haze for me because it's the last week of classes and tradition states that we all go to the pub for the final tutorials *grins* sounds good to me!

[cemays]

I introduced myself on Wednesday over in the Making Protein Power work 24/7. The challenge for the weekend will be to continue a stict Low carb eating pattern. I set high goals for myself in the other post and as a recap so far for the week this is how they have gone. All numbers are pre-breakfast since that is typically the high for the day.

Date Blood Sugar (MG/DL) Insulin (Units)
10/16 315 80
10/17 162 80
10/18 158 80
10/19 110 50
10/20 106 20 so far today

So I have been making good progress on the Blood Sugar and Insulin. The body fat will have to wait and see since that takes more time.

I still do not understand why but I posted that my blood sugar was under 120 all day yesterday. That was until I went home and within 1 hour it was in the 150s, and stayed there till I went to bed. What caused it? Lifting Weights!!! It has always done that. You would think exercise would bring it down or at least stay at the same level.

[Missy]

Cm...I hope it all works out with the least amount of stress to you personally. I know it must be hard to know what's going on, and yet working as hard as you can to make the difference. Good for you....forge ahead.

Mitra...you can lead, join, visit, belong with us ANYTIME! :D I just like knowing your out there!

My challenge this weekend, is this unknown exciting family and new family event of this engagement party Clam Bake. Not only interesting and new food experiences to manuver...but just the enjoyment of getting to know the family of the adorable fiancee's side of the fence. Between the nervous and excitement and the emotion of it all....well, I don't know how well I'll do. I do know that I will do the BEST that I can....and even if that best is to allow myself to go off plan...if I so chose to...my success will be just knowing it's just a rare opportunity to indulge and enjoy...without going nuts. But, perhaps I will not overly indulged and be proud of myself for resisting and still feeling totally appart of the fun. In all honesty, I'm not sure yet.

Gabe....I appreciate your post. Good for you. I think what you've explained so well is that in fact you've made this the "lifestyle" switch...and you DELABELED it in your mind. GOOD for you. I'm at the stage where my mind is consently calulating visually BEFORE I choose...and I'm in a family situation, other then my sister, who's done South Beach with success, that even has an IDEA what it's like to "live" this way. I've personally vowed that FOR NOW, I will NOT be on a soap box with my plan...but allow my plan to show it's self in my improvement. And let that speak the volumes my words could never command.

However, I will make SURE that I also have "something" available that I can "go too" if necessary wether it be a party..or a family meal. I will provide myself with my needs.

I once made a really tasty looking peanut butter pie...and it was the ONLY dessert for a family meal we had..lol I thought my FATHER was going to DIE! LOL He took ONE bite, and NO THANKS! LOL I didn't mind it, as my sweet tooth has been down regulated....lol Needless to say, NO ONE asks me to bring the dessert! LOL

Mitra, I get what your saying too! If I was having company, and I wasn't confident that whatever I was preparing wasn't a reasonably "regular" if not completely regular tasting item to those would don't follow or have no clue, I wouldn't spring it all on them...with low carb ingredients. I'd still make them their sweets sweet. You know? I'd make me MINE....and I'd make them aware, and if they wanted to try...fine, but if not, I'd have both. That's just how I view it.

Right now though, I have to DO what I have to DO!

[Missy]

Hi Cemays!!!!! Glad you chose to join in with us! We're glad your here! :D

I can't tell you anything about blood sugar....as it doesn't seem to be a problem for me....heaven knows why not? ...lol But, I'm sure others will be along that definitely relate! :D

[Texasgrl]

Wow! That pumpkin pie receipe sounds wonderful, could you share the receipe....I was wondering how I was going to be able to enjoy some pumpkin pie at the holiday without blowing it! That is one thing that I do enjoy at the traditional dinner....a nuttier crust sounds great!

I am officially on board with you all here for the challenge...I am Texasgrl, 48 year old mom of a wonderful son and wife to an awesome and very cute hubby (who is 50, but is buff and looks much younger!). I weigh 175 this am, and am shooting for a goal of 150 to begin with!

So far this a.m., I have counted all the grams closely in my food and will report at days end. I am going to walk in a minute, and am planning on adding in weights as soon as I heal from a hand a wrist injury that I had last week when I fell halfway down my basement stairs! I can still get in my walk, though!

[Bangs]

Good Morning TGIF'ers:)

CM, what a stressful environment you're working in. It's really hard to do a good job when you don't have all the information, isn't it? I hope things start to go better from here on out. I would find it hard not to take those comments to heart, so I applaud you. ps--I'm glad you're getting chatty!

Welcome cemays.
You, too, Texasgirl
Mitra, so nice to see you here.
Becca and Missy, you'll be busy with family. Whew!
Gabe, I don't bake at all, LC or otherwise, so I'm always agog at those who can.
Abbey! The end of a semester. WOOHOO

My plans for the weekend are flexible but will include defrosting the freezer. Isn't that exciting??? Like watching paint peel...Anything else will depend on what hubbie is up for. He's in a major funk, mostly job-related but it spills over on every other aspect of life. I'm sure some of you understand.

My Dad, who lives with us, is off to Arkansas tomorrow to visit his ladyfriend. He is SUCH an extravert that when he's gone it's like a mini-vacation for me:p All you other IN's and IS's will understand that, too;)

Since Missy finds it amusing:lol: and it's no secret anyway, I'm 58. Sheesh, when did THAT happen!!!!

[joanneb608]

Now Bangs, you mustn't lapse into telling falsehoods now!:exclamation:

We all know you're closer to 30 or 40!:D

At least your picture looks that way, so the low carb WOE sure has preserved your excellent looks!:D

[cmcole]

I want to go home NOW.
Downstairs adding printers to user's profile when their manager/team leader comes over and says she wants to see me later this afternoon (at the time I leave - which I told her was not possible), so then she backed it up by 1/2 an hour.

I hate that. Just get it over with. Don't make me sit here and stew for a while wondering what trouble I'm in, now.

[Missy]

LOL....I love BANGS! :D Can you BELIEVE her REAL AGE! NO! it's a lie...she just CAN'T BE that age!!! She CAN'T BE!

Texasgirl! YYAAAAAYYYY A NEWBIE...for us older newbies.... well, just so you know Texasgirl...your IN NOW....it's a commitment...noooo getting OUT....we get to make fun of you if we want too. LOL In a good and loving way....as my mother used to explain...we are laughing WITH YOU...not AT YOU! :rolleyes: I never really GOT that. But, if it's about BANG...no, I'm definitely laughing AT her! :rolleyes: lol Glad your hear, I recommend participating with us at whatever strikes your fancy! :nod: Hope your hand improves fast...and feels normal soon.

Bangs...I need to locate that "test" to find out what I am....lol In's and Is's??? I've just GOT to know what I am. :paranoid: I think. :paranoid:

[Missy]

I want to go home NOW.
Downstairs adding printers to user's profile when their manager/team leader comes over and says she wants to see me later this afternoon (at the time I leave - which I told her was not possible), so then she backed it up by 1/2 an hour.

I hate that. Just get it over with. Don't make me sit here and stew for a while wondering what trouble I'm in, now.


Want me to come sit on her and give her a weggie? lol :eek:

[maxlharris]

Nother day, another stack of nothing to do at work! Yeah!

Went to doctor this AM. Last time I went, Doc's secretary kind of lost me in the shuffle. I was VERY early (like 45 minutes) and wound up getting in to see the doc half an hour later than scheduled. Doc then proceeded to talk to me like I was a dopey with a trainee doc in the room and referred me to get some blood pulled for a fancy test on my thyroid. I wound up wandering the halls of the hospital (due to bad directions... "So, you go to the big building, and by the cafeteria, just ask someone.") and found out that my insurance wants me to go to a private contractor for fancy blood tests. So, I blew half a day of leave for a transaction that could have been handled by phone. Doc is also super concerned over my Cholesterol, but I dodged the Statin Prescription Bullet thanks to my faulty thyroid. So, I was a little unhappy with Doctor Z. On top of it all, the Doc's office building charges $4 for parking and you can't get validated (I hate this term, but that's a conversation for another day).

Today, I wound up getting to the office bout fifteen minutes late. It wasn't on purpose, but after thinking about my last visit, I felt pretty good about it. Got in to see doctor before I could pick a magazine. Straight to business. Asks if I feel better with the Thyroid thing. I say, "I dunno. I'm 23 lbs lighter with the diet, I'm taking a powerful stimulant for my ADD, I sit on a big rubber ball at work and am standing 2 inches taller, and I've cut out junk food from my diet. I honestly cannot say that the Thyroid pills are making a difference." He says, well, no complaints is good. Asks If I've eaten this morning. I say no. So, while we're checking the thyroid, we're gonna check cholesterol. He said, with 23 lbs gone, I should be about 11-12 points of total down. But he might expect a little more, since my start total was so high. BP was also down at his office, but hadn't taken powerful stimulant ADD drug yet. Last time he measured, it was ~128/82. Today, about 115/76. Since I was just there and relaxed the same as last time, I like this measurement, since it doesn't contain any of the effects of the rest of my life. At work, when I meausre, I am generally on my powerful stimulant and half to walk a quarter mile (I walk briskly) and down two flights of stairs, before I measure. hard to say if that's a good measurement. Any rate, doc will get back in touch.

This AM, thus far, have eaten ~16g Carbs and 50G protein. Have also stepped 2750 steps. Supplements to come, except those damn EFAs.

Trouble for the weekend? I guess I'm going to a happy hour tonight at a Tapas bar. Sangria is tempting, but not to the point where I'm going to have an issue. For me, it's all about staying focused on goals. The essence of corporate strategy is the essence of my strategy. Will have to make effort to navigate menu a little. Chorizo-Chicken pinchos (skewers), That garlic-lime-chile shrimp dish and they must have some kind of steak thing. If I have a lot of carbs, maybe they will have prosciutto melon or date. I dunno that I will have carbs available for dates, looking at where I'm at now. Figure a miller lite or two and we're getting mighty close to 30. On the flip side, in my previous adventures in LC (this one is not an adventure, but a fundamental shift in strategy), I could continue to lose with 60G+ ECC. But, that'd be being weak on the commitment.

Thanks for the challenge. The more public your commitment, the broader you spread it, and the more people you invest in it, the more incentive you have to keep it. At least that's what the Business Psych professors used to say. Or was that the Internation Political Economy prof? Maybe all of he above.

Later.

[popprincess]

Hi All!

Back again today! I am doing well so far, getting some water in me, and I made the right choice in the cafeteria today by getting the stuffed pepper and the salad instead of the rice and noddles with it! Yeah for me!

Yes I am pretty lucky to be able to have a personal trainer work with me even if it is not exclusively. I didn't know what to do before and she has set me up on a program to work my "problem areas" and when I told her that I was LC'ing it, she did not poo-poo me as many people do!

It is back to the gym for me today, as I took yesterday off as a rest day.

Good luck to everyone else today!

[joanneb608]

CM, I feel so bad for you. You feel so helpless in situations when it's a MACHINE that doesn't cooperate with you, and somehow it ends up being your fault!

Just know that you have done the best you could with the limited resources you have had. That's all ANYONE can ask of anyone else. I am so frustrated in situations when I can't get adequate training and then am criticised later for not doing something right. It's like, "welll, if someone here would just TELL me, or SHOW me!":angry:

Well, take comforrt that whatever happens, it's just another step in the life character-building series. I know, sometimes I don't want anymore character-building myself!:rolleyes: But, you'll be farther ahead of the game with what comes up next in your life.

We all are 100% behind you , just keep your head up!

[joanneb608]

Popprincess, good to hear from you, and Max, sounds familiar with all the doctor thing.

I'm off to work on some more granite. We have to cut out another piece that I messed up earlier in the week, but he's not mad about it. I very rarely ever make a mistake like that. I think the grinder pad was loose. But oh well. Off I go. Talk to you all later today, have a great day, recruits!

[Gabriel Guzman]

Point well taken Janet, thanks!. Don't get me wrong, though, I think you are in the minority of well informed consumers who have made a choice to stay away from artificial sweeteners. I don't think that's the general mind set, though. If it was, people wouldn't be making poor choices when they eat. Diet soda wouldn't be as famous... and is not the artificial sweetener (Aspartame in this case) what is in most people minds but the fact that there are no calories.

What I mean, and perhaps poorly worded, is that it's a myth that food that contains less carbs, mostly desserts and with obvious exceptios, necessarily have to taste bad, or not be up to the quality and savory reward of the 'real thing'. Of course I'm talking only out of my own experience within a circle of friends that have no problem in telling you when your food sucks! :) But, in many occasions, they didn't even have a clue that the dessert they were having was, well, low carb. Anyway, sorry for the unintenionaling derailing rant (from the actual challenge that is).

Missy, I guess you're right, I've made this a lifestyle change just as diabetics choose to stay away from sugars. That doesn't mean that I'm limited to eat or cook like that only. I know I wouldn't have trouble having ya'll over for dinner and cooking something we all can enjoy (without artificial sweeteners for Janet ;) ), or entertain Billie's thinker friends (a group of friends of hers, okay mine too, that get together to 'think' once a month...) with a suculent risotto and a cake that made them go for seconds the other night! :). It has become an advantage for me now.

[Missy]

lol....I hope, one day, somehow, I get the chance to have the opportunity to be in that circle of yours/Billies and get to try whatever you wish to make to tell you if it sucks or not! LOL That sounds so fun! lol :D

[Missy]

Food is soooo territorial isn't it??? There is ALOT connected to it and alot to manuver around in all sorts of instances with all sorts of attitudes. :paranoid:

[Gabriel Guzman]

Hope this answers your query somewhat. I tried not to get too involved or ramble with inane terms.

Thanks CM, it does. I thought it was something else but it's what our IT guys use to do to newly acquired computers (or when a computer went belly up and they had to put everything in again) in our department, only they used a different term for it.

Thanks again.

[gitfiddle]

CM, my friend, hold your head up. I also hate those see-me-later meetings. I haven't had one lately, but in accounting things can get really messed up too! I'm not a good one for waiting; my imagination is to active. Please come back later if you can.

Max, good for you. I dodged the statin bullet with PP, too.

Missy, fifty-eight isn't OLD. Eighty is old. (I remember when thirty looked old! :rolleyes: )



I've made this a lifestyle change just as diabetics choose to stay away from sugars.
Gabe, you're right, it is a choice. There are plenty of diabetics who don't make it. Sometimes it's hard to explain that I could get away with eating that particular goody, but I don't want to deal with the cravings it might trigger. Nobody understands that one! When you've got something precious, you don't treat it lightly. BTW, you've made me want to try that pumpkin pie recipe. My boys will be the perfect testers!

I don't see any real challenges coming up this weekend--wait! If we go to the traditional VFW all-you-can eat breakfast, I'm going to want the fried potatoes. That is one of my downfalls. Maybe I'll conveniently forget about it, because DH won't remember. I've been doing so well with no perceptible cravings that I don't want to mess it up. There's a birthday dinner for my dear old mother tomorrow evening, but it's at a restaurant where I know I can get steak and/or salad. A private party later where last time they only had punch and sugar stuff. I'll slip a water bottle and some almonds in my purse.

[BeccainSC]

Since I haven't yet figured out how to quote several messages at once I hope I don't miss anything.

I too would like the "test" to find out what all the acronym personality types are. I had a shrink tell me I was an "extrovert" 5+ years ago, I laughed at him, I'm one of the shyiest people I know. It takes me a LONG time to get comfortable around people and such. And along those lines, Missy I'm not sure I'm ready for a "get to know me" thread yet. Yikes!:eek: :eek: I'd probably either fall into the TMI category or you'd be just a clueless as you are now. I'm much better at dropping tidbits into these posts for now. Maybe someday.

I really like what Max (or do you want us to call you Hollywood??) about making commitments public (and thus accountable). I know it has really helped me this month. No way could I have gone 3 weeks (well nearly) without this going on. Knowing that I have to come here and report my totals if not the details of the food makes me really think twice about my choices.

CM I really hope your day improves. Nothing worse than being at the mercy of a finiky computer when there are people waiting.

I'm feeling much better today. Could be because there is actually sunshine and I was out and about in it! Went to the grocery store with hubby and really had to get after him about "no junk". I did allow him a bag of Buffalo wings to lessen the temptation to eat out this week. And he was making noises about wanting a pumpkin pie from the bakery, I told him I'd make a pumpkin something so we picked up a can of pumpking. He then wanted to find pie crust and I was adament - NO CRUST - custard/filling only. I appeased him a bit by reminding him that we do have cool whip around (which I will pass on). This week will really be a test of wills I think.

I do need a bit of advice if possible... I picked up some roast beef from the deli as I've been doing for weeks now. Today's doesn't even look like it's been cooked! I know roast tends to be on the medium end of things, but it was as red (and nearly as messy) as the steaks I have marinating in the fridge for tonight's dinner! Any clues how to cook it up a bit more without over doing? :confused: I've come a long way from "over well" but I'm not ready for "rare".

So far so good foodwise today, though I'm behind on my water again (forgot to take a bottle out with me) and my morning supplements ended up being at lunch so I guess lunch ones will be late afternoon.

'becca

[AZSue]

CM, I sense you are expecting the worst at this meeting today. If at all possible, can you try to document what happened, provide an analysis of what went wrong and why, and some proposals to prevent this from occurring again? I know this is a lot to provide in just a few hours, but it might help management recognize that this is not a "personal" problem (eg, its not you) - instead, the IT group seems to have a process problem, and this is going to happen again unless steps are taken to address it. Maybe they need better training, maybe they need a process where images are tested on all supported platforms in the organization, etc.

Good luck, be positive, and we'll be sending good thoughts your way.

[Missy]

I know Carol...I agree 58 isn't OLD...but to me, it was so surprising that Bangs was 58....she looks in her thirty's to me.

Good Luck staying away from those potatoes, you can do it. Just think how proud you'll be telling us you did it?!

Becca..and anyone else for that matter....no worries, post about yourself however / whereever you feel comfortable. No pressure. Too Much Information??? ~ there is something as that??...hum....I musta not got that memo either! lol

sorry, I don't have anything to tell ya about the beef.

CM just know you got us as a cheering section if needed when needed.

[LisaS]

I do need a bit of advice if possible... I picked up some roast beef from the deli as I've been doing for weeks now. Today's doesn't even look like it's been cooked! [snip] Any clues how to cook it up a bit more without over doing? :confused: I've come a long way from "over well" but I'm not ready for "rare".


if you want to warm it - you can warm it on the stove in a little au jus or beef broth in a small skillet - by the time it is warm, it will be done enough for you. Or put it on something oven safe & cover with a little cheese and warm/broil until the cheese melts - and that will cook darken it a little more for you. Or stirfry some onions & peppers, add the meat just to warm it, top with a little cheese and when the cheese melts it will all be ready for a pseudo-cheesesteak.

I wouldn't warm it to get more color and then put it away though - if you want to use it cold in a rollup - just put it in a lettuce leaf, add a little horseradish, roll it up and you won't see the pinkness :)

[virginia]

Here are my numbers for today:
Protein: 95 g
ECC: 21.9 g
Water: 2 litres
Supplements: Yes, vitamins
Exercise: walking with friends tonight (they are so energetic people...)

I don't have any plans for the weekend, nothing special I mean... but I'll try to have fun and rest at home...:) I hope you all have a fantastic weekend!! Anyway, we will talk again tomorrow and Sunday, so...;)

Hey Peachy!! How about our little challenge? I have decided not to go on the scale until the month is finished, so I won't get mad about thinking if I have lost weight or not... My clothes fit a little better than some time ago, so I think I'm doing it well, and that is the important fact...:p

[SherryJ]

Missy, fifty-eight isn't OLD. Eighty is old. (I remember when thirty looked old!)Humph! Around here, I'm famous for saying, "MIDDLE AGE STARTS AT 84!" :D

Becca, Lisa stole my answer! ;)

Sherry

[BeccainSC]

I wouldn't warm it to get more color and then put it away though - if you want to use it cold in a rollup - just put it in a lettuce leaf, add a little horseradish, roll it up and you won't see the pinkness :)

But I can taste it! I buy the beef and some turkey to make wraps for my lunch (on the LC tortillas). I went ahead and used it today figuring that with all the other stuff in there it would be okay, but there was a difference. I had even "toasted" the entire thing flat in the toaster before rolling it. Of course I'm big on the "texture" of foods too. Ah well, I just need to get through the week and next time I'll be sure to ask to see the beef before they give it to me!

Thanks for the tips though. :) They all sound yummy and might make a nice change of pace for lunch.


'becca
(the picky eater)

[LisaS]

I know what you mean though - you are stuck with what *they* have. My goal is to buy a nice [read higher-end] at-home meat slicer and make my own deli meat :D

[maxlharris]

I too would like the "test" to find out what all the acronym personality types are. I had a shrink tell me I was an "extrovert" 5+ years ago, I laughed at him, I'm one of the shyiest people I know. It takes me a LONG time to get comfortable around people and such.

So, in the Myers-Briggs-Jung type framework for personality (INTP, etc), extrovert does not necessarily mean that you like to talk a lot or aren't shy. In fact, 70% of Americans identify as shy and I think 50% of Americans are Extroverts, maybe a little more. It really means that you draw your stength from an external focus. I am an introvert but I talk a lot. I live a very rich life inside, but I do like the talk, the negotiation process, etc. Wife says it's a competitive streak. I am unconvinced (but maybe that's the competitive streak too ;-)

I'm not saying that you are an extro or intra vert. Just that it is possible to be shy, quiet and extroverted in the MBTI framework. There are a number of nice MBTI tests online. FYI, I'm an INTP. It's a cruel fate.


I really like what Max (or do you want us to call you Hollywood??) about making commitments public (and thus accountable). I know it has really helped me this month. No way could I have gone 3 weeks (well nearly) without this going on. Knowing that I have to come here and report my totals if not the details of the food makes me really think twice about my choices.

Either way. I used to work in TV production, so all of my work stories in business school started with, "When I worked in Hollywood..." Thus, my friends started calling me Hollywood. But we can go either way.



I'm feeling much better today. Could be because there is actually sunshine and I was out and about in it! Went to the grocery store with hubby and really had to get after him about "no junk". I did allow him a bag of Buffalo wings to lessen the temptation to eat out this week.

In some LC circles, the Buffalo wings are a staple food. I wouldn't say they rise to the level of LC Cheesecake as a treat for me, but that is only because I eat a lot of hot wings. At about 2g per 6-8 sections, they make a Saturday (TEXAS), Sunday (J-E-T-S, Jets Jets JETS!) or Playoff Baseball (Yankees/Cardinals!!!) just feel like normal life. Wife begrudges me more from the "How can you eat hot wings all the time?" angle than a health one, but wife doesn't eat many cooked foods that she has to touch with her hands. Or that might get all over her face.

I saw a recipe, maybe on Low Carb Luxury, for a punkin cheesecake. I think it had a nut crust. Wife made me a different one (key lime) with crust of ground almond and butter, toasted in the over and then shaped. Was very good, if a little fall apart. Maybe needed more butter.


I do need a bit of advice if possible... I picked up some roast beef from the deli as I've been doing for weeks now. Today's doesn't even look like it's been cooked! I know roast tends to be on the medium end of things, but it was as red (and nearly as messy) as the steaks I have marinating in the fridge for tonight's dinner! Any clues how to cook it up a bit more without over doing? :confused: I've come a long way from "over well" but I'm not ready for "rare".

That's a tough one. maybe oven at 200-250 for a bit. I would stack it all up, rather than seperate the pieces. But I like it closer to moo than brown. I feel like a ncie toaster over would be perfect for this, although you couldn't calculate the "coasting" on it. Maybe ask Google?

[LisaS]

so many INT* posting lately - really wrapping my brain around that one - (as an INTP what else would I do :) )

[maxlharris]

I know what you mean though - you are stuck with what *they* have. My goal is to buy a nice [read higher-end] at-home meat slicer and make my own deli meat :D

If you practice, and invest in a very nice slicing knife (12 inches long, will granton edge and the rounded tip... something link this...
http://www.cutleryandmore.com/details.asp?SKU=8808&src=Froogle&cam=Products&kw=8808)
you can do a lot of your own work, including thin sliced, home roasted (or smoked) beasts.

Currently, I will buy the PSMO, and other sub primal cuts at the Warehouse Store. PSMO is my wife's favorite (this breaks down into Filet Mignons, Beef Tenderloin, the Ultimate Scooby Snack, "head roasts" and Chateau Briand). For ~$70 and about fifteen minutes work, I can make ~7 Thick Filets, plus have a petite roast and the Chain Meat, which is the Ultimate scooby snack according to Alton Brown (and he is correct). If I were to buy all of this at retail, We are talking maybe $120 on the low end. If we ate this stuff out, I would need to triple my salary. Also nice to get is the part of the loin that becomes NY Strip Steaks. Again, $70 makes ~14 steaks @ ~12-14 oz each raw. That's $5 per steak. Buying butchered, this would cost me $7-9 per steak. Fridays would sell said steak (with sides) for about $14. A nicer restaurant for much more. And they wouldn't grill it either. And it requires just slicing and maybe some trimming. Very simple with the right tools (I use my cleaver to slice, boning knife to trim fat).

I ramble too long.

[Billie]

I think the "I"s are all closet E's!!! :D Getting your energy and balance in the quiet and reproducing your energy is certainly alot about I's...but you are finding that somehow through some solace here. I am wondering if the INFs FEEL good because it is a protective non threatening place where they an choose to talk or not, depending on their needs.

Now Missy, who obviously is beyond the scope in the Es!!! :D

Becca a could days ago someone posted a link to the Myers Briggs stuff on this forum, take a peak!'

It really has nothing to do with being shy or not, it really is where you refuel yourself, if you like to do it in quiet, alone, reading, journaling, kind of 1 to 1 things or if you could work all day and go to a party right after work and refuel among a million people, only half of whom you know. I have known many I's who were very into people during the work day but really needed that time at home to refuel in the quiet.

Lots of good conversation heres, hoping the numbers are good for the day for you all! Since I missed about 4 pages of posts during my 3 hour meeting trying to catch up! Talkative group!! :)

[hawk]

MAn!!! this was alot to read through coming in late.
Hi everyone.
CM I would not like to be you either. I am praying for your sanity and a solution. Looks like you got a few good ideas.
CALLING ON GABE AND WHO EVER ELSE MAY KNOW>>>>>I went to my doctor today. My blood pressure was 140/80 on verepamil. He changed it to something else because i have every side effect.
I asked him what I am doing wrong and why I am in a weight loss stall. My doc is a freind of ours. He told me to stop IF and eat protien every two to three hours.In three weeks he wants a full blood lipid profile and thyroid.
He thinks if I can lose more weight, my blood pressure will be normal with out meds. He is a skin flint. He fasts two days a week and I started IF on his advise. I have not lost anything. I lost 10 pounds a few months ago when I had upped my protien before and so he wants me to do it again. THen I stopped losing but I have not gained. Doc said.. all I can do is limit salt and lose weight and excersize. Is he right about the salt?? I already walk or bike 1/2 hour to 1 hour a day. I am going to try it twice a day . Any suggestions??

[Bangs]

Heh, heh, thank goodness for fuzzy photos and teeny avatars.

CM, I agree with all the above--and as Carol wisely said "hold your head up." It's hardly possible to be perfect in an impossible situation. Sue's given superb advice for handling the meeting. We'll be here for you.

Becca, I'm with Lisa, when deli beef is just tooooooo, just a few seconds in a barely warm frying pan will do the job.

For anyone interesting in the MBTI test (you know, the IN's and IF's etc), I believe Billie (?) posted a separate thread with a link, I believe in the Challenge forum.

Later, Gators....

[cmcole]

Hawk, I wish I could reciprocate in the advise department and offer something constructive, but I cannot, other than the old standard - perhaps your body needs more, and has decided to hold onto everything when you're in fasting mode. I'd give his advise a try, anyway. Can't be worse, I guess.

Thank you all for your advise, although I didn't see it till I got home.

The meeting went reasonably well.

Firstly, the manager said that she was formally introducing herself to me, as we had not been, previously. Nice enough. As a note, I've only been there a month, and most people don't see me until there's a computer problem or an equipment change/swap.

Secondly, she wanted me to be aware that we are a client service environment, and unless I can do my work outside times when clients are there, then I should advise her to free up the space so her people can be elsewhere, and I have full access to the equipment, without being in "the way" of client service/confidentiality.

I did assure her that my intention by beginning these large tasks/projects early in the morning was to have them done prior to the doors being unlocked for the clients, but that things went awry.

Thirdly, I am not to install anything for her people without her authorization. I said there was very little chance of that, because I was still learning what applications and programs were being used in the office, and would have to get advise from the other tech on installation procedures, anyway. Exeptions are printers, patches and other things that are standard (to which the other point applies).

Thankfully, we were cut short by another manager requesting this one attend a meeting NOW. I don't know if there was anything else she needed/wanted to add. That was probably enough to end my day (which it did).

So, I was not completely in trouble, but being a "systems" person, I was being told the "rules" as she saw them.

[Billie]

I am the wrong person to ask because I have not done IF nor will I probably venture that way. But it seems to me that the Eades consider this an "experiement" SO if it is not working for you then I would cease and desist. How bodies are so complex Hawk, you were losing weight doing something different before and that was eating protein, feeding your body, why not return to that?

[gitfiddle]

Well, CM, I appreciate that she has some finesse, thank the Lord. That beats wild-eyed accusations any day. One of my role models is a man who always says "Don't beat a dead horse. Find out what the problem is, how to amend it and how to be sure it doesn't happen again." Sue gave you excellent advice on preparation for the meeting. I'm even going to jot it down in my planner for future use, if needed. ;)

Tomorrow will be a better day! :)

[Bangs]

I am wondering if the INFs FEEL good because it is a protective non threatening place where they an choose to talk or not, depending on their needs.


Yes, Billie, exactly. You got it:D

Oh Good, CM, echoing Carol (again) it appears the manager does have some skills. That's a step ahead of many.....

[maxlharris]

MAn!!! this was alot to read through coming in late.
Hi everyone.

CALLING ON GABE AND WHO EVER ELSE MAY KNOW>>>>>I went to my doctor today. My blood pressure was 140/80 on verepamil. He changed it to something else because i have every side effect.
I asked him what I am doing wrong and why I am in a weight loss stall. My doc is a freind of ours. He told me to stop IF and eat protien every two to three hours.In three weeks he wants a full blood lipid profile and thyroid.
He thinks if I can lose more weight, my blood pressure will be normal with out meds. He is a skin flint. He fasts two days a week and I started IF on his advise. I have not lost anything. I lost 10 pounds a few months ago when I had upped my protien before and so he wants me to do it again. THen I stopped losing but I have not gained. Doc said.. all I can do is limit salt and lose weight and excersize. Is he right about the salt?? I already walk or bike 1/2 hour to 1 hour a day. I am going to try it twice a day . Any suggestions??

Is it possible that you are building muscle and your body composition is changing? You said that you are walking/biking, but nothing about resistance exercise.

Speaking of resistance exercise, I have heard (from some decent folks in another group) that doing resistance exercise will help lower your BP.

Different people metabolize the sodium differently. I know I retain fluid if I have a lot, but my blood tests on the subject have been very normal/low, despite using a lot of salt. By a lot, I am talking a hot wing binge (I am weak with good wings). I know folks who can cut the salt and lose some quick.

Some folks I used to talk to talked about the Atkins Fat Fast. I never have had this issue in a way that made me want to do even read about that (stalling that is).

I am new, and bad with details, so I don't know your frame or any of that stuff. But you might look into keeping a food log, and checking the dreaded calories, hidden carbs, etc. Folks at my other newsgroup always recommend this is the face of a prolonged stall.

I hope this has been helpful.

[hawk]

Hey Max.. My profile has a picture of my whole body at my current weight. I was lifting weights for quite awhile and took five years of kick boxing before that. I currently do 100 pushups a day spread out all through the day. 10 at a time, 10 dips,25 crunches,25 free squats. I'm 51, 5'5 , 165 lbs... mostly upper body weight. I do a body for life work out when I get going. I have had a headache for the last two months so I stopped for awhile. I changed to just walking and biking. Still do the pushup routine.

[hawk]

I switched back and am eating the protien like my Doc asked aver 2-3 hours. I feel blessed to have a doctor that tries to work with me.I'm trying Micardis for 5 weeks to see if there is a difference. I freak out about eating any carbs at all. I make very colorful salads, that is the extent, but somthing like the cakes Gabe makes are out of the question for me.

[Missy]

Virginia...What?! Not going anywhere! ....hum...I'm SO disappointed! :D

Sherry: Yeah, you know how that LISA is! :rolleyes:

Max: I'm an extrovert who really, in "real life" doesn't talk alot. I'm telling you guys, if ever you meet me, I'm very normal. You see, I'm home all day by myself doing what I do self employed wise...so these forums....this forum is my outlet to others. I come from an extremely witty family, and it's just ingrained into me. Not that I'm always taken as funny...but I just see things as funny. It's probably just a cover up of some sort. :eek:

I also know that in order for me to succeed at this new way of eating and making it permanent...I have to make the healthy positive environment I'm in a full time commitment. So, I'm "allowing" myself to get fully entrenched here....because cause I have to fully show myself to get as many people as I can helping me help myself. I know you all won't allow me to slide now...cause I spent too much effort to insure it. I can't easily fade back into the background now. I've made my personality be my own lifesaver.

Billie...."beyond the scope of the E's!" LOL I'm gonna take the test and see exactly how I come out. lol :eek:

You know something....I used to be very very introverted...and I learned how to come out of the shell years ago...and I only found it to be a very pleasant a rewarding experience...so much so that I'd prefer to "stay out"....but I completely respect introvert's.

Myer's Briggs...here I come! LOL

[joanneb608]

Wow! Too many super interesting conversations here for lowly me to keep them all straight!:crybaby:

Well, for the sake of time, I ate my parmesan chicken for two meals today, had broccoli/cauliflower steamed with a little butter, some low carb yogurt for a sort of "sweet."

Glad to here that Cmcole got through the day! Hopefully Monday should go better for you!:D

Hawk, it does sound like going back to your former eating arrangement might be better for weight loss. We'll be anxiously awaiting your info to see the difference!

I don't have anything special on tap for this weekend. Sounds like a good day tomorrow to stay inside and read a book. "Protein Power" anyone? I can always get something else out of their books if I read them over again, there is SO much material to absorb. It's supposed to be a high of 40 and rain and snow. IT'S TOO EARLY FOR THAT!!!:angry::angry::angry:

protein = 85
carbs = 30
water = 77 oz but I'm not done yet
supps = of course yes
exercise = going out now to walk

[Missy]

My totals, I forgot to post.

Protein: 120..so I'll find something more.
Ecc's: 23
Water, Yep
Supps Yep
Exercise...:rolleyes:

[joanneb608]

Hey Missy, I 'm SO glad you wanted to sign up as a recruit, join the Protein Army and "get entrenched.":)

Don't know what we'd do without 'cha! You just keep goin' !!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Didn't see myself as getting really entrenched either at the start but the Challenge really got me involved, and I am in SO much better shape emotionally to continue the journey into better health and fat loss. I couldn't have done it (or at least not this easily) without all of you!

[BeccainSC]

I've been popping in and reading off and on all day/afternoon and had so many things in my head that I wanted to reply to that I think I maxed out. :rolleyes:

Anywho... I have discovered that I am (or at least was at one time) an ISFJ.

I got some extra sunshine today... about 15-20 minutes worth. While I was out there all I could think of was I wished there was a way to 'store' it so that I wouldn't feel so blah on the cloudy days. I have had tons of energy and have been upbeat all day. :D

My totals for today:

Protein: 131 grams
ECCs: 28 :D
Supplements: yes
Water: 8 of 8


I think I'm gonna go back through today's thread and make some notes so don't be too surprised if I post a long winded reply tonight.

I do remember one thing. .... we gotta be sure to keep Max and Lisa on opposite sides of the room... can't have Longhorn fans and Trojan fans co-mingling! ;)

[joanneb608]

Becca, got that right!

Oh, you reminded me just now, I can watch the Clemson game tomorrow if it's on up here. Sounds better than being outside in 40 degree weather with rain.:mad:

[LisaS]

I do remember one thing. .... we gotta be sure to keep Max and Lisa on opposite sides of the room... can't have Longhorn fans and Trojan fans co-mingling! ;)

we was robbed, robbed I say !

[lizi145]

Here are my totals...

PRO...79g
ECC..20g
H2O...still working on it
Exercise...I somehow hurt my ankle so I haven't been to the gym for 3 days now!:eek: :tear: I can't wait to go back! I really miss it...
Supps...took AM, will take PM later

[gitfiddle]

I've been popping in and reading off and on all day/afternoon and had so many things in my head that I wanted to reply to that I think I maxed out. :rolleyes:
I'll second you, Becca. By the time I got here today, this thread was three pages long and I never did say all that I thought! How frustrating! :confused:

Finished with dinner, but I may have some fruit & ricotta later. Here is my score so far:

Protein: 100 or so...
ECC: 29
Water: Yes
Supps: Yes
Exercise: More like "activity" but I was able to walk without as much stiffness in the foot today. Progress.

Hawk, I hope your change of diet helps. How handy to have a doctor "on-call"! ;)

Joanne, keep an eye on the weather for the first weekend in November for me, will you please? I always get nervous about going to that conference when it's in the northern climes. Last year we drove two days to get to northern Minnesota, but it was dry and mild--no blizzards, thank goodness!

[Billie]

Great postings girls!! We just finished a great meal outside, Gabe cooked chicken breast on the grill and we had a fire in the fire pit--love fall! The chicken was delicious and I had like hmm 47 grams or something lke that, nice on a bed of lettuce, with celery red peppers and a hit of vinegar.

Had a 3 hour presentation today and ate the toppings of 2 pieces of pizza. I was starving and while they were munching away on breadsticks and pizza I knew I had to eat something. Then later had some cheeses with 1 Rye cracker.

Didn't get to the gym today but hope to do that this weekend or many long walks outside with the dog...and the hubby.

Your personalities, whatever they are, are shinning brightly! You are doing it troupers, so very proud to be apart of your successes!

[BeccainSC]

Okay, went back through.... some of the stuff is out of "date" so I'll let it drop but I did have a few things to add.

Welcome to our new folks: Cemays and Texasgirl! Glad to have you.

Missy enjoy yourself at the clambake and don't give in to the cookie dough (reference from the other thread). We know you can do it!

CM - Glad you got through your day. Make sure you take the time to RELAX this weekend!

Thanks to everyone for the tips on the roast beef. I agree that it would be much better to just "make my own" but I'm not too great in the kitchen. I especially feel that way about turkey. To me there's just nothing better than a fresh roasted turkey breast (ohhh I love the upcoming eating holidays!). The roasting I could do, it's the slicing it for "sandwiches" where I'd have the trouble. May have to learn though cuz the deli is getting pricey and after Dr. Mike's blog about packaged meats I will never buy them again!

Joanne the Clemson game is national tomorrow night - ESPN 7:45 Eastern, not sure how that translates for you but you can find it I'm sure. It should be good as they're playing GA Tech (where my son almost went!).

I think I am now officially caught up. We really are a chatty bunch!

'becca

[Belfrybat]

Wow! Very busy thread today. I couldn't read page 2 because everytime it loaded, Explorer shut down. That only happens on this web site and only for certain pages. Strange. Anyway, I read the other pages -- great work everyone.

I don't anticipate any challenges for the weekend. I'll be busy making an order for 50 Prayer Beads :eek: , so that should keep me out of trouble and hopefully out of the 'fridge.

Here's my stats for the day:

Protein 47
ECC 38
Water not quite enough
Suppl yes
Exercise no -- and no excuse for it

[gitfiddle]

Hey, BC! There's always room for water! :D Nice to see you over here.

[Texasgrl]

Ok, here's where I am for today


Protein - 90 plus
Carbs - 39
Water - still drinking!
Supps - yes! Multi and Digestive enzymes
Exerciise - not yet and here's why...my arm where I fell is still pretty painful and when I walk it doesn't like to dangle...so for now, I am not on the treadmill..........

[AZSue]

Well, DH fell asleep watching the History channel, so I snuck away to enter my daily tally (such an exciting life that I lead ;-)

Protein: 113 g
Carbs: 23 ECC
Supps: yes
Water: over 64 oz again
Exercise: jogged ~4 miles, 43 minutes, 150 HR

There's a 5K run that I'm tentatively planning to go to on Sunday. DH goes with me; he takes his bike and goes for a ride while I go on the run (he has a bad knee and cannot run), so its a fun experience for both of us.

CM, I'm glad everything came out okay at work today. Sounds like you already knew how to handle the situation.

[Always]

Here I am just finished reading this topic...lots of reading. Starting to doze here at the computer (no offense) so I won't be on much longer.

Made some Alfredo Spaghetti Squash (Dana Carpendar's 500 LC Recipe cookbook) to go with my Lasagna (no noodles). Michael loves the Alfredo Squash even though he's not fond of just Spaghetti Squash...Excellent....a way to get him to eat vegetables. He's always trying to get me to say that bread is a vegetable. Oh well....he does what he can.

Tomorrow a.m. I will grocery shop and do some laundry and then around lunch head to the store to spend time with M and do book keeping. Sunday will probably be cleaning up the yard...can't wait too much longer or they won't be picking up leaves and garden waste. Of course they're predicting rain and even snow:eek: It always makes me sad to cut things back at this time of the year, but I know my flowers will return in spring. Will have to work on my newsletter also and watch the Packers (maybe win), make some dinner, and relax?????

Will be at the store filling in for Michael on Monday as he's having some dental work done in the morning.

My stats for today:
Protein: 100
Carbs: 30
Water: Every drop
Supps: Every one
Exercise bands

See ya!!!!

[Bangs]

Almost sleepy time, but I'd better enter my totals now and say g'nite. Not a sparkling PP day, but best I could do under the circumstances....
Hugs to all!

Protein 70
ECC 32
Fiber 17
Sups yes
water no
Exercise off day

[Gabriel Guzman]

He thinks if I can lose more weight, my blood pressure will be normal with out meds. He is a skin flint. He fasts two days a week and I started IF on his advise. I have not lost anything. I lost 10 pounds a few months ago when I had upped my protien before and so he wants me to do it again. THen I stopped losing but I have not gained. Doc said.. all I can do is limit salt and lose weight and excersize. Is he right about the salt?? I already walk or bike 1/2 hour to 1 hour a day. I am going to try it twice a day . Any suggestions??

Well, I don't know if you know how I feel about "IFing" but I won't repeat that here... so many unknowns to my liking. About salt, Mike Eades wrote about it in his blog, you might want to search for that particular entry. Too little salt is just as dangerous as too much salt. I'll try to find that particular blog entry.

I really think that one has to have an adequate protein intake, no matter what. Also, for fat loss, as I discussed before, walking and/or biking may not be as efficient as engaging in some resistance exercise. Doesn't even need to replace walking or biking, only needs to be included within the exercise routine. However, it becomes even more important to ensure an adequate protein intake.

What exactly is that you're going to try twice a day? Eating protein?

Sorry it took a while to reply... It also took a while to catch up with this thread!

[Gabriel Guzman]

I think I got a little carried away with the protein today... and I loved it!


Protein: 151 g
ECC: 40-45 g
Exercise: afternoon walk
Water: today close to 2 L
Supplements: omega-3s

[LisaS]

Pro: 92 g
ECC: 24 g
water: y
supps: y
AM ex: no
PM ex: we'll see won't we :)

just so you don't think I do nothing when I report no exercise - there are always at least three 10 min p&p walks with the dogs every day.

[hawk]

Gabe, that was Biking or walking twice a day ... the eating protien is every two to three hours. Thanks for the headsup on the blog. I'm doing a show all day tomorrow.. Maybe Sunday I'll get to peek at it.
My day WAS sparkling PP. I can't seem to get enough protien. I'm drinking shakes in between meals.I've been too busy to eat.

[Mitra]

BC, I think there's a newer edition of the board software that we'll probably upgrade to soon (shouldn't look any different from this, but with luck it might fix that problem).

I have family staying this weekend, so I can't quite manage to keep up with all the chat. I'll be back later :).

[cmcole]

Totals:

Calories Eaten Today

grams cals%total
Total: 1692
Fat:98 886 54%
Sat:37 329 20%
Poly:6 57 4%
Mono:32 287 18%
Carbs:27 74 5%
Fiber:9 0 0%
Protein:169 677 41%
Alcohol:0 0 0%

[Billie]

Great Job Texas girl, that arm will heal soon and you will be hitting the pavement or treadmill!

AZSue, good good numbers, glad you slipped away from DH to share with us!

Lisa, walks with the dogs even the short ones, at least when I walk our dog, are aerobic and resistance at the same time--she is trying to run and I am pulling! :D But hey the walks are great!

CM, good numbers!

Becca, great attitude

On to the 21st!

[abbey]

uhh

I realised I chatted lots but forgot to post my totals :)

Protein: 137.3
ECC: 24.1
Supps: yes
Water: 7L
Exercise: yes, 3/5 days complete

[Bangs]

Hawk, I'll just add that I'm in the opposite "salt" camp, so Gabe is correct that too little can be a problem, too. I have adrenal issues and low blood pressure and salt is actually helpful.

[maxlharris]

we was robbed, robbed I say !

Let's not start that. You got your one and a half, and Reggie Bush got his rent free dream home for mom. *KIDDING*

[maxlharris]

Final Stats for me:
Protein: Definitely over 120, but not sure by how much
Carbs: 25-30, again slightly unclear but nearly certain it was </= 30
Beverage: 3xNalgene 32 oz Water, 1x 8oz cup, 1x 12 oz Amstel Lite
Exercise: 7400 Steps
Supplements: MultiVit, Alpha Lipoic: Yes. Fiber, EFA, thyroid: No.

As noted, went to doctor. That ate first half of day. Seriously looking into switching to a doctor near work rather than home.
Threw off the supplements & meds that I take on an empty stomach. I also didn't take my ADD med yesterday, but that's not that important when I have nothing to do at work. The problem with ritual is that a change at the start backs up pretty good. Eli Goldratt (operations guru) would call this an extention of his Theory of Constraints. He'd be right.

Uncertainty around protein and carbs comes from venture to Tapatinis with coworkers after work. Tapatinis is a tapas/martini bar in DC's SE corner somewhere. No idea where. Subways are great but they destroy sense of place a little. Tapatini served exactly one Lite Beer. It was Amstel Lite and came in at 5 grams. That kicked me to 24 on the day. Planned, favored tapas in the LC millieu that are staples at every tapas bar were not to be found (including personal favorites steak pieces with blue cheese & quince or something, the garlic, lemon, orgenago chile shrimps or the little skewers of chorizo and chicken pieces). In their place, yuppiesque reinventions. Shrimps were in for of Shrimp Toast (NO!). Blue Cheesy Beef was instead slathered in a sauce of stuff that I wasn't able to count and Chorizo was seperated from chicken and coated in "wine sauce." Loving Chorizo in most forms above many other food items, I ordered it. Wine sauce turns out to be a tomato based sauce with a mystery vegetable in it and some scant flavor of wine. Mystery vegetable was inspected, even under pocket flash light, and remained mysterious, but figuring I was close to carb limit, discarded as something not in line with goals. Small amounts of wine sauce were eaten with a very yummy chorizo. Complimented it very nicely. Grilled pita served with small plate was also discarded, despite looking very yummy. So, I'm not so sure on how much Chorizo I actually ate. I think I had maybe one ounce, maybe less, of wine sauce. Having been at 100g Protein before eating the small plate, I am pretty sure that I got at least 20G from it. Not quite so sure about wine sauce, either in quantity or carb content. It was not overly sweet, but that doesn't mean much.

The lesson I ultimately learned was this: frou-frou yuppie restaurant bars are a little bit of a PITA when it comes to dieting.

Next challenge: Monday is a birthday party at a billiars joint. Will have to prenavigate menu choices for that. Next happy hour in the seires is looking to be a Karaoke venture (I think I started the idea after seeing Foreigner and Styx last month). Will cross that bridge when I come to it.

The final note though is a positive one. So, with all this tsuris about the tapas bar, scale was very kind, registering what it says below. Pound down from what it last said, and 1.5 since Monday or so. Must be doing something right.