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deirdra
07-31-2006, 09:07 PM
Deirdra, how did you track down your food allergies/intolerances? I've been reading "The False Fat Diet" by Haas, and it has my mind spinning. I have the same physical reactions you outlined, so I need to start working on this, but elimination diets aren't easy. If you took that route, did you eliminate the usual suspects "plus" foods you normally ate every day? I'm stumped right now at how to make salad dressing without dairy, vinegar, or lemon juice--and I thought I've been eating good PP foods--scary. I started with Haas' book, which had my head spinning too, as so many of the problems described sounded like things I had experienced, but thought I'd first try eliminating the usual suspects and the foods I crave and those that I've noticed make my ears, eyes, throat or palms itch or give me round red spots on my cheeks that look like clown makeup and then go the full elimination route if I needed to. So far I haven't needed to go the full elimination route. I suppose I am "lucky" that I have very fair skin and react quite obviously, even if I do find myself looking clown-like at times. I had also been keeping track of things that seemed to affect me in some way over the past few years.

I also read all the books on the subject (~25) in my public library and bought the ones that I found most useful: Haas' "False Fat Diet" & "Detox Diet" (I don't follow the diet, but like how it makes "families" of foods with similar properties obvious); William Walsh's "Food Allergies - The Complete Guide to Understanding & Relieving your Food Allergies"; Brostoff & Gamlin's "Food Allergies and Food Intolerance" and photocopied a few key lists & charts I found in the library books. Although the elimination diet is the "gold standard", these books recognize how hard it is to do and discuss other approaches like getting rid of the most obvious culprits first to see how much improvement you can gain (w/PP I was about 40-50% of the way to being symptom-free; I am now symptom-free ~95% of the time) and then work on eliminating other suspects, like things you have an abnormal attraction to. By eliminating the biggies, it is easier to notice subtle effects when you re-introduce suspect foods.

An easy way to start is with a plain meat/egg diet approach to determine whether you have any meat, poultry, fish, shellfish or egg intolerances (for me, just slight problems with some shellfish & past inklings that eggs affected me if I ate several every day). Eat only one type of food for a couple of meals or the full day. If you don't suffer anything but boredom, try another. It took me less than a week to confirm that plain meat/poultry/fish were not my problem, nor were a couple of eggs eaten a few times a week. Once you know what protein sources work for you, add some additonal fat from other sources - 1T of butter, coconut oil, heavy cream etc.. That way you have a lot of known "safe" foods and can then try things like mayo, salad dressing, cheese, yogurt, nuts, seeds, etc. What I do is try a normal to big serving (up to 10g ECC) of one new food at a time (on top of my safe foods since I need protein & fat with my carbs and see if anything happens (almonds...nothing; sunflower seeds...clown cheeks & itchy eyes in 20-30 minutes; avocado...very slight itchy throat in 20-30 minutes; wheat...stuffed up head, wheezing & fatigue 1-4 hrs later; citrus...my facial pores turn into mini-blisters hours later). If I'm not quite sure whether it was the food or the day's circumstances that made me feel tired or odd in some vague way, I re-try the food at the next meal. I do of course write everything I eat down so that I can detect longer term symptoms.

In the long run it may have been easier to just do the elimination diet and start with a perfectly clean slate rather than a mostly clean slate, but since I travel 1 week a month, my approach seemed more doable. I try to stick to my so-far-safe food list when travelling or too busy to carefully test foods, and each month the safe list gets larger so it becomes easier. I might try some new foods but in very small quantities and note if anything suspicious happens so I can try a more controlled single-item test in the future (e.g. was it the calamari, its coating or seasonings or the wine or talking too much that made my throat scratchy?).

Although many "experts" think rotation diets don't work, I've been making an effort to not eat the same thing every day (I was the Queen of eating the same 10-20 foods every day - starting with cheerios for breakfast and PB&J for lunch every day during most of my formative years). This actually made the transition into maintenance more interesting as I have been trying more veggies, seeds, nuts and new recipes, and thinking of what I make to nourish myself, not what can I make that takes the least amount of thought & effort. I recently added lamb to my rotation of beef, chicken, pork, turkey, fish, egg & cheese. I'm not obsessive about the rotation - I'll eat steak two days in a row if offered - I just ask what haven't I had in a while. I now keep leftovers of 3-6 different things in the freezer rather than eating one thing until it is all gone and then making another. This takes no extra time or effort.

Incidentally, I did not give up my 1 mug of caffeinated coffee w/heavy cream each morning since I had previously quit cold-turkey and abstained for 2 months and it didn't change a thing. The vinegar in mayo and creamy salad dressings may affect me ever-so-slightly, but such miniscule amounts don't worry me enough to eliminate these enjoyable condiments. But miniscule amounts of MSG have a big enough effect that keeps me reading labels and eating very small amounts of anything suspicious in restaurants. As they say, moderation is the key.

The only thing I am not moderate about is learning & spreading knowledge about allergies & intolerances. And I keep learning new things that link to other things. A few weeks ago I was describing my melon allergy & how it is related to latex allergy to my sister and she said, well grandpa (a doctor) was allergic to latex, something I never knew. No wonder I never have a reaction to my regular dental hygenist (who is allergic & wears latex-free gloves) but was coughing up a storm when she was on vacation and a substitute filled in, and my whole arm itches when I have an IV.

Although celiac.com & books on the subject spend a lot of time talking about IBD & other gut problems that I don't have, they do provide very useful breakdowns of things like milk and cheese into the various components a person could react to - lactose and certain key proteins. While following PP I noticed that some cheezes & dairy products stuffed me up and others did not even though I am not lactose intolerant (and doctors told me it was all in my imagination, but a decongestant would help). So I looked at what allergenic proteins each was high or low in, and not-so-surprisingly I was able to narrow down the specific proteins I have problems with and the ones I don't and test other cheeses in the same family. Although I had to eliminate or restrict quantities of some dairy products, it got me trying cheeses I'd not purchased before that fall into my "safe" families. So now I have a new hobby as a cheese connoisseur. So it is not all about eliminating what could be your current favourite foods, but adding new favourites to your menu.

meli58
07-31-2006, 10:11 PM
Thank you for taking the time to post that wealth of information--I'll use it as my blueprint because it makes sense to me, and I'll look at your additional references. Until age 50 or thereabouts, I did not have these problems, but mood/energy/pain level seem to be increasingly dependent on my food. I also eat many of the same healthy things every day, and eliminating all of them seemed impossible, but you make me see that it really isn't, if I can force a little creativity. I don't have your skin reactions (on second thought, maybe this weird acne...), but mostly stuffiness/headache (dairy), occasional racing heartbeats, and almost-instant fatigue. I thought that with protein and unprocessed fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds, I'd be okay, but I still have the problems. I recently switched from mayo-based salad dressings to oil and vinegar (various types), or even oil and lemon juice, and think the vinegar and citrus may be a problem (tiredness). But I haven't been able to face naked salads. Again, many thanks--I have much work to do, but you give me hope. Mostly I want to feel better, but if any of the culprits should turn out to be the source of my "false fat"...:D

deirdra
07-31-2006, 10:34 PM
but if any of the culprits should turn out to be the source of my "false fat"...:D Yes, the title sounded ridiculous to me (who could possibly mistake inflammation for fat :confused: :paranoid: :rolleyes:), but I bought the book for the food intolerance content, not thinking I had any "false" fat, just the real stuff, to lose. So I was pleasantly surprised when I found the culprits that were the source of my "false fat", real fat, asthma & other repiratory problems, depression, joint pain & headaches! I hope you have similar results.

meli58
08-12-2006, 03:40 PM
Still eliminating and testing--my most recent discovery was that 1/4 cup of wild rice caused me to gain 5 pounds overnight. And when checking the charts, I see that it's in the wheat family, so no surprise that it was a problem. I've also discovered that a 4-day rotation allows me to tolerate a little vinegar in salad dressing. So much is involved--according to one of the books you recommended, even the form of the chemical in mineral supplements. But whether or not I lose weight, I'm learning to plan my menus to make me feel better. Many thanks for the references.

deirdra
08-12-2006, 08:41 PM
Can you handle lemon juice? I was in Argentina where they always put olive oil & freshly squeezed lemon juice on salad and now I prefer it over vinegar. The whole salad tastes fresher instead of chemically.

Yeah, I find things like wheat, yogurt, cream cheese, or soy can cause me to gain 3-5 lbs overnight, plus I get stuffed up, wheezy & itchy eyed. It is quite amazing that I lived like this for the last ~15 years and thought it "normal".

meli58
08-12-2006, 09:06 PM
Lemon juice can be an accumulation problem for me when added to the other acids/citrates. But vinegar is both acidic and fermented, so I'm still sorting it out. Also, I'd been using a new brand of dry-roasted sunflower seeds on salads, and after suffering bloat and the sneezy/itchy eye syndrome, I read the ingredients--cornstarch, sugar, MSG, maltodextrin, yeast, corn syrup solids, and hydrolyzed soy protein--total misery--from something that looked exactly as did the previous seeds which had no added ingredients. :eek: Constant vigilance is a virtue...and a necessity. :o My next effort is to coordinate the pollen allergies with the food intolerances...

Mitra
11-24-2007, 05:45 AM
I've just discovered that I react to raw egg yolks (possibly the white, too, but I don't eat raw egg whites on their own. I've noticed in the past that I had an itchy throat when I eat lemon curd :( (I've only noticed it when eating a bit on its own while making it, not when eating it later.) Then I had the same thing when I had lemon mayonnaise with some prawns. At that stage I didn't know if it was the lemon or the egg, but I had a raw milk tonic (recipe from the Nourishing Traditions book, and includes a raw egg yolk) and had the same reaction. This morning I tried exactly the same thing, but without the egg - no itchy throat. I've also noticed the itchy throat when I've tasted the uncooked mix for almond muffins, but don't get it when I eat the muffins. I'll have to test cooked eggs. I'm sure I would have noticed if my throat started itching after a plate of scrambled eggs, though, so it may be just raw that they're a problem.

Mitra
02-22-2008, 04:30 AM
I do sometimes have a reaction to cooked eggs, too, but not always.

At the moment I'm feeling very sneezy and sensitive. When there are several allergens around, I'll react to things that normally wouldn't bother me. I think I need to cut out some of the likely irritants for a while, and I also need to take a bit of time to identify what the problems are, so I can adjust as I need to. I think one difficulty is that some foods are OK in small quantities occasionally, but not daily, or not when there's pollen or some other allergen around. I don't want to restrict myself more than necessary :lol: but itchy throat, eyes, nose and skin isn't much fun either :rolleyes:. I'm going to try keeping away from wheat and eggs, and minimising dairy (I'll still use butter and clarified butter, and small quantities of cream) for a week and see if it helps.

Various places list the top eight (responsible for 90% of food allergies) as:
* Milk
* Eggs
* Peanuts
* Tree nuts (such as almonds, cashews, walnuts)
* Fish (such as bass, cod, flounder)
* Shellfish (such as crab, lobster, shrimp)
* Soy
* Wheat

I don't think fish/shellfish or tree nuts are a problem for me, so I'll keep them in for now. I don't eat soy anyway (except for the miniscule amount of soy lecithin in a square of dark chocolate every few days), and hardly ever have peanuts. I'll see how I do without milk, eggs & wheat. It's interesting that citrus isn't mentioned there, though it seems to feature often when people say what foods cause problems for them.

I just had coconut milk in my coffee :). I can't imagine what would make somebody use soy milk rather than coconut :confused:.

Mitra
02-22-2008, 05:18 AM
Deirdra (or anybody else with experience of this stuff), how long do you typically find it takes for symptoms to subside when you remove a problem food?

deirdra
02-22-2008, 06:07 PM
I often notice nearly complete improvement in 3-5 days for things that cause respiratory problems & itchy eyes or hives, in 2-3 weeks for things that cause joint pain.

hawk
02-23-2008, 12:08 AM
Great reading..I am getting these books.

Mitra
02-23-2008, 01:57 AM
Thanks, Deirdra. I have had more joint pain lately - I don't mean the chronic lower back stuff, but just achy knees and hips. It clears up sometimes, and I suspect a dietary effect there. Anyway, I'll go for the respiratory/dermatological stuff first (I don't actually get hives, but do get flushed cheeks, and also my skin will become very sensitive and I get something like nettle rash on the slightest abrasion).

Just had tuna steak for breakfast, with coffee & coconut milk, then started sneezing & snuffling. Maybe I need to rethink the fish thing. I hope there'll be something left I can eat at the end of all this!

Hawk, I'm glad you dropped by - let me know if the books help.