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		<title>By: Ben Willmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Willmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: The link you mentioned in this sentence &quot;The bride posted on this issue a day or two ago, so you can click here to see the worst offenders.&quot; is broken:
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmd/archives/2006/07/local_farm_prod.html

Please let me know if you happen to fix it because I would like to know the info. 

Thanks... GREAT web site by the way. I just discovered it yesterday and I stayed up until 3am consuming information and I&#039;m starting up again today. 

Your posts are quite long (not a complaint) which I usually wouldn&#039;t read since I have a somewhat short attention span, but selecting the text and choosing Safari&gt;Services&gt;Speech&gt;Start Speaking Text in Mac OSX Tiger (using the new Alex voice, which is much better than the old ones... you choose it in your system preferences) allows me to hear it read to me. That makes it so I can be cleaning or relaxing while it&#039;s read to me. 

I would like to see single paragraph summaries of these long posts just so I have a better idea of which ones I&#039;d like to read/hear and which ones I might want to skip and I could still benefit a little from the ones I skip by having a general idea of the points raised in the post. 

Thanks again for all the great information.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Ben--

Glad you&#039;re enjoying the site.  It takes me long enough to write the posts - I don&#039;t have the extra time to summarize them into a small paragraph.

I&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://redirect.alexa.com/redirect?www.proteinpower.com/drmd_blog/?p=84&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fixed the link&lt;/a&gt; you are looking for.  Thanks for the heads up.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: The link you mentioned in this sentence &#8220;The bride posted on this issue a day or two ago, so you can click here to see the worst offenders.&#8221; is broken:<br />
<a href="http://www.proteinpower.com/drmd/archives/2006/07/local_farm_prod.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.proteinpower.com/drmd/archives/2006/07/local_farm_prod.html</a></p>
<p>Please let me know if you happen to fix it because I would like to know the info. </p>
<p>Thanks&#8230; GREAT web site by the way. I just discovered it yesterday and I stayed up until 3am consuming information and I&#8217;m starting up again today. </p>
<p>Your posts are quite long (not a complaint) which I usually wouldn&#8217;t read since I have a somewhat short attention span, but selecting the text and choosing Safari&gt;Services&gt;Speech&gt;Start Speaking Text in Mac OSX Tiger (using the new Alex voice, which is much better than the old ones&#8230; you choose it in your system preferences) allows me to hear it read to me. That makes it so I can be cleaning or relaxing while it&#8217;s read to me. </p>
<p>I would like to see single paragraph summaries of these long posts just so I have a better idea of which ones I&#8217;d like to read/hear and which ones I might want to skip and I could still benefit a little from the ones I skip by having a general idea of the points raised in the post. </p>
<p>Thanks again for all the great information.</p>
<p><em>Hi Ben&#8211;</p>
<p>Glad you&#8217;re enjoying the site.  It takes me long enough to write the posts &#8211; I don&#8217;t have the extra time to summarize them into a small paragraph.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve <a href="http://redirect.alexa.com/redirect?www.proteinpower.com/drmd_blog/?p=84" rel="nofollow">fixed the link</a> you are looking for.  Thanks for the heads up.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ruth Heasman</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/weight-loss/how-does-life-fat-thee-let-me-count-the-ways/comment-page-1/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Heasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

I was looking for info on Krill oil and arthritis and came across your articles on NSAIDS and then continued to read the one about weight. Both were fascinating.

I too have begun to take a mixture of krill oil, fish oil and hempseed oil and I have managed to get off my NSAIDS and put my CRP levels into the normal (remission) range for my long standing rheumatoid arthritis.

As you were talking about diet, this may interest you. Over the last 3 months I have been on the Shangri-la diet. This involves taking 2-3 tablespoons of (tasteless) oil a day with a one hour window both before and after the oil in which you consume nothing but water. An example of a tasteless oil is canola oil or extra light tasting olive oil. So far I have lost 16 lbs and part of this time I was also on prednisone (renowned for making people gain weight rather than lose), so I am very pleased with my weightloss so far. I have another 40 lbs to lose until I&#039;m completely satisfied ;-).

This diet works as an appetite suppressant, thus breaking the &#039;always thinking about food&#039; and &#039;never feeling full&#039; cycle so many of us who are overweight are caught up in.

So, the theory behind the diet, in a nutshell, is to break the link between flavour and calories (see http://www.sethroberts.net for the reasons why). Seth&#039;s theory, like yours, is simply that the methods for weightloss espoused by almost all health professionals - eat less, exercise more - is simply the wrong advice. 
It works like a charm for me, and many hundreds of other people. It&#039;s worth having a look at the forums too http://boards.sethroberts.net/. Interesting stuff!

Hi Ruth--

Thanks for the comment.  I am familiar with the Shangri-la Diet.  I&#039;m glad it&#039;s working for you.

Best--

MRE
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>I was looking for info on Krill oil and arthritis and came across your articles on NSAIDS and then continued to read the one about weight. Both were fascinating.</p>
<p>I too have begun to take a mixture of krill oil, fish oil and hempseed oil and I have managed to get off my NSAIDS and put my CRP levels into the normal (remission) range for my long standing rheumatoid arthritis.</p>
<p>As you were talking about diet, this may interest you. Over the last 3 months I have been on the Shangri-la diet. This involves taking 2-3 tablespoons of (tasteless) oil a day with a one hour window both before and after the oil in which you consume nothing but water. An example of a tasteless oil is canola oil or extra light tasting olive oil. So far I have lost 16 lbs and part of this time I was also on prednisone (renowned for making people gain weight rather than lose), so I am very pleased with my weightloss so far. I have another 40 lbs to lose until I&#8217;m completely satisfied <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>This diet works as an appetite suppressant, thus breaking the &#8216;always thinking about food&#8217; and &#8216;never feeling full&#8217; cycle so many of us who are overweight are caught up in.</p>
<p>So, the theory behind the diet, in a nutshell, is to break the link between flavour and calories (see <a href="http://www.sethroberts.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.sethroberts.net</a> for the reasons why). Seth&#8217;s theory, like yours, is simply that the methods for weightloss espoused by almost all health professionals &#8211; eat less, exercise more &#8211; is simply the wrong advice.<br />
It works like a charm for me, and many hundreds of other people. It&#8217;s worth having a look at the forums too <a href="http://boards.sethroberts.net/" rel="nofollow">http://boards.sethroberts.net/</a>. Interesting stuff!</p>
<p>Hi Ruth&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  I am familiar with the Shangri-la Diet.  I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s working for you.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda off topic, but I just wanted you to know I recently finished Protein Power and really enjoyed it.  I was at Borders last night and picked up the Protein Power Lifeplan and look forward to reading it.

Thanks for some great books.

Thanks for the kind words.  I&#039;m glad you enjoyed PP.  Let me know what you think of the LifePlan when you get it read.  Don&#039;t spend much time on the exercise chapter--we wrote that before we had our brain transplant.

Cheers--

MRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda off topic, but I just wanted you to know I recently finished Protein Power and really enjoyed it.  I was at Borders last night and picked up the Protein Power Lifeplan and look forward to reading it.</p>
<p>Thanks for some great books.</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words.  I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed PP.  Let me know what you think of the LifePlan when you get it read.  Don&#8217;t spend much time on the exercise chapter&#8211;we wrote that before we had our brain transplant.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel E. Guzman, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/weight-loss/how-does-life-fat-thee-let-me-count-the-ways/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel E. Guzman, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mike.  I must say that you now know of one... me.  I moved here n 2003 from Sweden where I originally learned about Protein Power back in 1999 and ordered the book (Ed. 1996).  Funny how things turn out to be sometimes.  I got attracted to the title (Protein Power) and decided to read the book because my work has always been on protein biochemistry.  Little I know about the ride I would have.  Anyway, my question relates more to the fact that over there, I didn&#039;t seem to have major problems sticking to the plan.  Once here, I&#039;ve found myself more prone to get off track.  I really can&#039;t put my finger on the real reason.  Psychology is not my field so who knows what it is.  Some time ago I read an article that described some of the changes that Inuit from Greenland went through when they moved to a more &#039;developed&#039; country.  It was interesting that one change they went through was a derail in their dietary practices resulting in weight gain and other problems.

I know that my case may fall in the anecdotal real but sometimes I wonder if there are other rather subtle factors that conspire against us depending on where we live.  I couldn&#039;t say that it is more exposure to, say low-carb products as I don&#039;t and never did rely on those for anything.  If I had a scale to measure it, I would say that the only factor that I can certainly say has increased several fold is stress.  That of course, made me remember your blog entry on the mice that while under stress always chose the equivalent of comfort food (mixture of fat and sugar).  So, to add to your analysis and brilliant dissection of the article, maybe it would be fair to add &#039;stress&#039; to yet another reason behind obesity.

Hi Gabe--

I guess I do know one, come to think of it.

I totally agree with you on the stress issue.  I firmly believe that stress is a major driving force behind the obesity epidemic.  Also a cause for not sleeping well at night.

MRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike.  I must say that you now know of one&#8230; me.  I moved here n 2003 from Sweden where I originally learned about Protein Power back in 1999 and ordered the book (Ed. 1996).  Funny how things turn out to be sometimes.  I got attracted to the title (Protein Power) and decided to read the book because my work has always been on protein biochemistry.  Little I know about the ride I would have.  Anyway, my question relates more to the fact that over there, I didn&#8217;t seem to have major problems sticking to the plan.  Once here, I&#8217;ve found myself more prone to get off track.  I really can&#8217;t put my finger on the real reason.  Psychology is not my field so who knows what it is.  Some time ago I read an article that described some of the changes that Inuit from Greenland went through when they moved to a more &#8216;developed&#8217; country.  It was interesting that one change they went through was a derail in their dietary practices resulting in weight gain and other problems.</p>
<p>I know that my case may fall in the anecdotal real but sometimes I wonder if there are other rather subtle factors that conspire against us depending on where we live.  I couldn&#8217;t say that it is more exposure to, say low-carb products as I don&#8217;t and never did rely on those for anything.  If I had a scale to measure it, I would say that the only factor that I can certainly say has increased several fold is stress.  That of course, made me remember your blog entry on the mice that while under stress always chose the equivalent of comfort food (mixture of fat and sugar).  So, to add to your analysis and brilliant dissection of the article, maybe it would be fair to add &#8216;stress&#8217; to yet another reason behind obesity.</p>
<p>Hi Gabe&#8211;</p>
<p>I guess I do know one, come to think of it.</p>
<p>I totally agree with you on the stress issue.  I firmly believe that stress is a major driving force behind the obesity epidemic.  Also a cause for not sleeping well at night.</p>
<p>MRE</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel E. Guzman, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/weight-loss/how-does-life-fat-thee-let-me-count-the-ways/comment-page-1/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel E. Guzman, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Mike.  Without discounting the relationship between obesity and the factors described, I&#039;m not convinced of their causality. In fact, under a different light, most of those factors, including a possible &#039;infectious&#039; agent, can be explain once obesity or other concomitant factors of the metabolic syndrome are set.  For example, normal weight people don&#039;t usually show inflammation-prone profiles.  If we think that leptin can influence the immune response towards a pro-inflammatory one, sometimes referred as Th1-like response, while decreasing the ability to mount a proper antibody response (which needs a proper Th2-like response), then excess leptin due to excess adipose tissue can actually hamper a proper immune response.

As noted by someone else, sleep problems may not lead to obesity but may be just another outcome of the obese state. After all, sleep apnea is an affliction that is very often corrected by losing weight but I&#039;m not sure that treatments for sleep apnea (or surgical intervention) actually induces weight loss as a result.

Interestingly enough, nutrition per se is not included in those factors.  The problem may be that the word &#039;nutrition&#039; may be understood by researchers just as the balance between calories in and calories out or in the silliest way, just as the mere balance of the Big Two.  In my mind, nutrition is at the core of the obesity epidemic, not only due to the physiology but also the economics behind the problem.

On a separate note, I&#039;m not sure if there are studies available, but I would like to know if people outside the US that have adopted something like Protein Power, for example, and have controlled their metabolic problems have found it more difficult to succeed once they come to live here... Do you know anything about it? I&#039;d appreciate any insight.

Hi Gabe--

Thanks for the, as always, interesting comment.  I know a lot of people in other countries who are on Protein Power style diets, but I don&#039;t know anyone who has been on such a program somewhere else, then moved here.

Best--

MRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Mike.  Without discounting the relationship between obesity and the factors described, I&#8217;m not convinced of their causality. In fact, under a different light, most of those factors, including a possible &#8216;infectious&#8217; agent, can be explain once obesity or other concomitant factors of the metabolic syndrome are set.  For example, normal weight people don&#8217;t usually show inflammation-prone profiles.  If we think that leptin can influence the immune response towards a pro-inflammatory one, sometimes referred as Th1-like response, while decreasing the ability to mount a proper antibody response (which needs a proper Th2-like response), then excess leptin due to excess adipose tissue can actually hamper a proper immune response.</p>
<p>As noted by someone else, sleep problems may not lead to obesity but may be just another outcome of the obese state. After all, sleep apnea is an affliction that is very often corrected by losing weight but I&#8217;m not sure that treatments for sleep apnea (or surgical intervention) actually induces weight loss as a result.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, nutrition per se is not included in those factors.  The problem may be that the word &#8216;nutrition&#8217; may be understood by researchers just as the balance between calories in and calories out or in the silliest way, just as the mere balance of the Big Two.  In my mind, nutrition is at the core of the obesity epidemic, not only due to the physiology but also the economics behind the problem.</p>
<p>On a separate note, I&#8217;m not sure if there are studies available, but I would like to know if people outside the US that have adopted something like Protein Power, for example, and have controlled their metabolic problems have found it more difficult to succeed once they come to live here&#8230; Do you know anything about it? I&#8217;d appreciate any insight.</p>
<p>Hi Gabe&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for the, as always, interesting comment.  I know a lot of people in other countries who are on Protein Power style diets, but I don&#8217;t know anyone who has been on such a program somewhere else, then moved here.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</p>
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		<title>By: Walt K.</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/weight-loss/how-does-life-fat-thee-let-me-count-the-ways/comment-page-1/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharp analysis, Mike, as usual.

Aside from the science issues here, it&#039;s interesting to see how economics and the dynamics of scientific careers so sharply skew the path of research.  Okay, science has never been &#039;pure&#039; in its search for &#039;truth.&#039;  There were egos and politics involved since Galileo and Jenner and Lister.

But it sure seems WAY worse now.  Unless there&#039;s a grant or a drug at the end of it, researchers won&#039;t even LOOK that way.  And you&#039;re a crackpot if you do.

How true, how true.

Best--

MRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharp analysis, Mike, as usual.</p>
<p>Aside from the science issues here, it&#8217;s interesting to see how economics and the dynamics of scientific careers so sharply skew the path of research.  Okay, science has never been &#8216;pure&#8217; in its search for &#8216;truth.&#8217;  There were egos and politics involved since Galileo and Jenner and Lister.</p>
<p>But it sure seems WAY worse now.  Unless there&#8217;s a grant or a drug at the end of it, researchers won&#8217;t even LOOK that way.  And you&#8217;re a crackpot if you do.</p>
<p>How true, how true.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</p>
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		<title>By: Mark L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my previous comment, I omitted the data that provided the correlations between sweetener and grain consumption and obesity because they were not copying correctly from my EXCEL spreadsheet. In addition, I discovered a spreadsheet correlating fat intake and obesity.
There were also graphs, but those can easily be recreated using a spreadsheet program. Note the extremely weak correlation between fat consumption and obesity. It astonishes me that no one else, especially these researchers, have not picked up on these correlations. Thanks for the time and space.


Correl.btwn Fat Consumption and Cardio Death Rate
        Fat
Year	Intake		CHD Rate	
1910	18 % cal diet   49 deaths/100,000	
1915	19		50
1920	20		55
1925	20		55
1930	21		60
1935	22		64
1940	22		71
1945	24		71
1950	25		72
1955	28		75
1960	29		71
1965	32		69
1970	34		64
1975	44		59
1980	47		51

Correl btwn Fat Intake +  Cardio Death Rate =	2.7%

Correlations between Obesity/Overweight, Sweetener Production and Grain Consumption

Grain	Sweetener	Overweight +
Year	Consumption	 Production	Obesity %
1975	114	             113	47.5
1980	117	             120	49
1985	125	             127	54
1990	140	             132	56.5
1994	144	             141.6	60
1995	142	             144	61
1996	149	             145	61.8
1997	150	             146	62.6

Correl btwn Grain Consumption +  Sweetener Prod =	96.9%

Correl btwn Grain Consumption +  Total Overwt =	98.0%
			
Correl btwn Sweetener Prod + Total Overwt =	99.4%

Based on charts supplied by USDA Economic Research Service + HHS Nation Center for Health Statistics

Hi Mark--

Thanks for the stats.  I agree with you and them.

Best--

MRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my previous comment, I omitted the data that provided the correlations between sweetener and grain consumption and obesity because they were not copying correctly from my EXCEL spreadsheet. In addition, I discovered a spreadsheet correlating fat intake and obesity.<br />
There were also graphs, but those can easily be recreated using a spreadsheet program. Note the extremely weak correlation between fat consumption and obesity. It astonishes me that no one else, especially these researchers, have not picked up on these correlations. Thanks for the time and space.</p>
<p>Correl.btwn Fat Consumption and Cardio Death Rate<br />
        Fat<br />
Year	Intake		CHD Rate<br />
1910	18 % cal diet   49 deaths/100,000<br />
1915	19		50<br />
1920	20		55<br />
1925	20		55<br />
1930	21		60<br />
1935	22		64<br />
1940	22		71<br />
1945	24		71<br />
1950	25		72<br />
1955	28		75<br />
1960	29		71<br />
1965	32		69<br />
1970	34		64<br />
1975	44		59<br />
1980	47		51</p>
<p>Correl btwn Fat Intake +  Cardio Death Rate =	2.7%</p>
<p>Correlations between Obesity/Overweight, Sweetener Production and Grain Consumption</p>
<p>Grain	Sweetener	Overweight +<br />
Year	Consumption	 Production	Obesity %<br />
1975	114	             113	47.5<br />
1980	117	             120	49<br />
1985	125	             127	54<br />
1990	140	             132	56.5<br />
1994	144	             141.6	60<br />
1995	142	             144	61<br />
1996	149	             145	61.8<br />
1997	150	             146	62.6</p>
<p>Correl btwn Grain Consumption +  Sweetener Prod =	96.9%</p>
<p>Correl btwn Grain Consumption +  Total Overwt =	98.0%</p>
<p>Correl btwn Sweetener Prod + Total Overwt =	99.4%</p>
<p>Based on charts supplied by USDA Economic Research Service + HHS Nation Center for Health Statistics</p>
<p>Hi Mark&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for the stats.  I agree with you and them.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</p>
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		<title>By: Mariah H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariah H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who decide to quit smoking replace their cigarettes with sugar because it gives them the same neurochemical effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who decide to quit smoking replace their cigarettes with sugar because it gives them the same neurochemical effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/weight-loss/how-does-life-fat-thee-let-me-count-the-ways/comment-page-1/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 01:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--I suppose there could be some merit to this factor, but my guess is that the sleep deprivation is probably caused by the obesity or that a third factor may cause them both.--

I think you&#039;re right.  In my case, I needed 9 hours sleep on a high carb diet.  Now on low-carb, with exercise, I do just fine on 7 1/2 hours a night.  My energy throughout the day is also more stable.

--Iatrogenesis, the causation of a state of ill health brought on by medical treatment, is indeed a cause of weight gain. Multiple drugs commonly given for a host of medical disorders have weight gain as a side effect. Antihistamines, antidepressants, anticonvulsants, blood pressure medicines, diabetic medicines, steroid hormones, mood elevators, birth control pills--all have been shown to cause weight gain to varying degrees.--

This was a significant factor for me.  I feel 100% better when on medication, but it is FACT that I went from merely &quot;overweight&quot; to clinically &quot;obese&quot; due to an anti-depressant.  I have managed to lose the weight while on it, but it is slow going.

With the advent of better medications and more people getting diagnosed, there would be a rise in obesity.  I&#039;ve had depression since I was 10, but wasn&#039;t actually diagnosed until I was 29!  There&#039;s more awareness of depression these days, and less of a social stigma, hense more people taking those medications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;I suppose there could be some merit to this factor, but my guess is that the sleep deprivation is probably caused by the obesity or that a third factor may cause them both.&#8211;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right.  In my case, I needed 9 hours sleep on a high carb diet.  Now on low-carb, with exercise, I do just fine on 7 1/2 hours a night.  My energy throughout the day is also more stable.</p>
<p>&#8211;Iatrogenesis, the causation of a state of ill health brought on by medical treatment, is indeed a cause of weight gain. Multiple drugs commonly given for a host of medical disorders have weight gain as a side effect. Antihistamines, antidepressants, anticonvulsants, blood pressure medicines, diabetic medicines, steroid hormones, mood elevators, birth control pills&#8211;all have been shown to cause weight gain to varying degrees.&#8211;</p>
<p>This was a significant factor for me.  I feel 100% better when on medication, but it is FACT that I went from merely &#8220;overweight&#8221; to clinically &#8220;obese&#8221; due to an anti-depressant.  I have managed to lose the weight while on it, but it is slow going.</p>
<p>With the advent of better medications and more people getting diagnosed, there would be a rise in obesity.  I&#8217;ve had depression since I was 10, but wasn&#8217;t actually diagnosed until I was 29!  There&#8217;s more awareness of depression these days, and less of a social stigma, hense more people taking those medications.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I originally wrote about this in a Comment in Weight of the Evidence. It is a good thing to look at other causes of the obesity epidemic. However, it is almost astonishing (unless you follow the money which is to say do not threaten your sources of grant money) why they did not attempt to correlate changes in diet with obesity.  My own research showed a 98% and 99% correlations between increases in grain and sweetener consumption respectively and obesity/overweight rates using USDA and HHS statistics from 1975 to 1997. I dare say that this is a stronger correlation than any of the other 10 factors presented in the paper. While I haven&#039;t determined it (yet), it is reasonable to assume that there would be negative correlation between fat consumption and  obesity given than fat intake has decrease as a percentage of calories and at most a weakly positive correlation between protein consumption and obesity. I&#039;ll get back to these when I get a chance to do the statistics. Thanks for the space to comment. 

Hi Mark--

The authors of the paper had the following throw away sentence playing down any effect of HFCS:

&quot;Regarding HFCS, the leading source (in the Untied States) is sweetened beverages and three out of four studies conducted in children have found no association between soft drink consumption and BMI when controlling for total energy intake, raising the issue that there is no independent effect of HFCS calories on body weight, other than its pleasant taste possibly leading to the potential increase in total caloric intake as would any food.&quot;

The HFCS folks are fighting back.  See the New York Times piece from a few days ago:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/business/yourmoney/02syrup.html?ex=1152936000&amp;en=177f8aaf8fef5463&amp;ei=5070

Thanks for writing

MRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I originally wrote about this in a Comment in Weight of the Evidence. It is a good thing to look at other causes of the obesity epidemic. However, it is almost astonishing (unless you follow the money which is to say do not threaten your sources of grant money) why they did not attempt to correlate changes in diet with obesity.  My own research showed a 98% and 99% correlations between increases in grain and sweetener consumption respectively and obesity/overweight rates using USDA and HHS statistics from 1975 to 1997. I dare say that this is a stronger correlation than any of the other 10 factors presented in the paper. While I haven&#8217;t determined it (yet), it is reasonable to assume that there would be negative correlation between fat consumption and  obesity given than fat intake has decrease as a percentage of calories and at most a weakly positive correlation between protein consumption and obesity. I&#8217;ll get back to these when I get a chance to do the statistics. Thanks for the space to comment. </p>
<p>Hi Mark&#8211;</p>
<p>The authors of the paper had the following throw away sentence playing down any effect of HFCS:</p>
<p>&#8220;Regarding HFCS, the leading source (in the Untied States) is sweetened beverages and three out of four studies conducted in children have found no association between soft drink consumption and BMI when controlling for total energy intake, raising the issue that there is no independent effect of HFCS calories on body weight, other than its pleasant taste possibly leading to the potential increase in total caloric intake as would any food.&#8221;</p>
<p>The HFCS folks are fighting back.  See the New York Times piece from a few days ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/business/yourmoney/02syrup.html?ex=1152936000&#038;en=177f8aaf8fef5463&#038;ei=5070" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/business/yourmoney/02syrup.html?ex=1152936000&#038;en=177f8aaf8fef5463&#038;ei=5070</a></p>
<p>Thanks for writing</p>
<p>MRE</p>
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