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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 14:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be interested in this research reported in yesterday&#039;s London Independent.

http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2586652.ece

&quot;A new health scare erupted over soft drinks last night amid evidence they may cause serious cell damage. Research from a British university suggests a common preservative found in drinks such as Fanta and Pepsi Max has the ability to switch off vital parts of DNA.

The problem - more usually associated with ageing and alcohol abuse - can eventually lead to cirrhosis of the liver and degenerative diseases such as Parkinson&#039;s.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Hi Rachel--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Simon commented on this a day or two ago and I put it up on the in-the-news section of our website.  I need to pull the actual research to see what it&#039;s all about.  I have a tendency never to fully believe these things as reported in the press.  But there are so many health benefits to avoiding soft drinks that any news that drives people away from them is valuable.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested in this research reported in yesterday&#8217;s London Independent.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2586652.ece" rel="nofollow">http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2586652.ece</a></p>
<p>&#8220;A new health scare erupted over soft drinks last night amid evidence they may cause serious cell damage. Research from a British university suggests a common preservative found in drinks such as Fanta and Pepsi Max has the ability to switch off vital parts of DNA.</p>
<p>The problem &#8211; more usually associated with ageing and alcohol abuse &#8211; can eventually lead to cirrhosis of the liver and degenerative diseases such as Parkinson&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Hi Rachel&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Simon commented on this a day or two ago and I put it up on the in-the-news section of our website.  I need to pull the actual research to see what it&#8217;s all about.  I have a tendency never to fully believe these things as reported in the press.  But there are so many health benefits to avoiding soft drinks that any news that drives people away from them is valuable.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: KAZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more concerned about the caffeine, which at least this version leaves out, than the sugar, which is only &quot;bad for you&quot; &lt;em&gt;in extremis&lt;/em&gt;. Caffeine is more physically addictive than cocaine...which is why, as you probably know as a doctor, a concentrated version of the latter is used as a &quot;safe&quot; topical anaesthetic. We&#039;d probably have been better off if putting trace amounts of that in Coke had remained legal, instead.

Of course the whole thing seems a waste of time, since Pepsi tastes so much better than Coke in the first place.

&lt;em&gt;Kaz--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Caffeine is certainly more dangerous than sugar in the short run at equivalent doses.  But we don&#039;t take them in equivalent doses.  A shot of espresso contains about 80-100 mg of caffeine, which is less than one fiftieth of the dose of sugar contained in one level teaspoon.  If one adds a couple of teaspoons to the espresso, the sugar content is 100 times that of the caffeine.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;As to the taste difference between Coke and Pepsi...it&#039;s obviously an individual thing.  Back during the days of the famous Pepsi challenge - the one that drove Coca Cola into coming out with its own HFCS version called New Coke - I took the test at least 20 times (this was before I had had my low-carb brain transplant) and chose Coke each time.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more concerned about the caffeine, which at least this version leaves out, than the sugar, which is only &#8220;bad for you&#8221; <em>in extremis</em>. Caffeine is more physically addictive than cocaine&#8230;which is why, as you probably know as a doctor, a concentrated version of the latter is used as a &#8220;safe&#8221; topical anaesthetic. We&#8217;d probably have been better off if putting trace amounts of that in Coke had remained legal, instead.</p>
<p>Of course the whole thing seems a waste of time, since Pepsi tastes so much better than Coke in the first place.</p>
<p><em>Kaz&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Caffeine is certainly more dangerous than sugar in the short run at equivalent doses.  But we don&#8217;t take them in equivalent doses.  A shot of espresso contains about 80-100 mg of caffeine, which is less than one fiftieth of the dose of sugar contained in one level teaspoon.  If one adds a couple of teaspoons to the espresso, the sugar content is 100 times that of the caffeine.</em></p>
<p><em>As to the taste difference between Coke and Pepsi&#8230;it&#8217;s obviously an individual thing.  Back during the days of the famous Pepsi challenge &#8211; the one that drove Coca Cola into coming out with its own HFCS version called New Coke &#8211; I took the test at least 20 times (this was before I had had my low-carb brain transplant) and chose Coke each time.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: gallier2</title>
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		<dc:creator>gallier2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mixed up pineapple and orange juice, it&#039;s the other way round
orange juice   : between 9 and 12 g/100ml and
pineapple juice: around 12 g/100ml

&lt;em&gt;The new and improved list. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mixed up pineapple and orange juice, it&#8217;s the other way round<br />
orange juice   : between 9 and 12 g/100ml and<br />
pineapple juice: around 12 g/100ml</p>
<p><em>The new and improved list. </em></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 01:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, it&#039;s sad.  7-up is touting their new, better tasting formula.  The thing I discovered, however, is that they ended using Splenda and are back to using aspartame!  I&#039;m so disappointed; no more diet 7-up for me!

Btw, my aunt has a neighbor who is diabetic.  She said Splenda causes muscle cramps or pain, or something like that.  I couldn&#039;t argue the point, since I was unsure.  Thoughts?

&lt;em&gt;Hi Michael--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;ve never heard of Splenda causing muscle cramps or pain, but that doesn&#039;t mean it doesn&#039;t happen.  It could be what&#039;s called an idiosyncratic reaction.  Or it could be a potassium deficiency.  Often when people drop their carbs - as they do if they switch to Splenda - they have a diuresis and get rid of a lot of potassium in their urine.  A low potassium can certainly cause cramps and muscle pains.  Maybe you should suggest that this person try it again with a potassium supplement this time.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, it&#8217;s sad.  7-up is touting their new, better tasting formula.  The thing I discovered, however, is that they ended using Splenda and are back to using aspartame!  I&#8217;m so disappointed; no more diet 7-up for me!</p>
<p>Btw, my aunt has a neighbor who is diabetic.  She said Splenda causes muscle cramps or pain, or something like that.  I couldn&#8217;t argue the point, since I was unsure.  Thoughts?</p>
<p><em>Hi Michael&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;ve never heard of Splenda causing muscle cramps or pain, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it doesn&#8217;t happen.  It could be what&#8217;s called an idiosyncratic reaction.  Or it could be a potassium deficiency.  Often when people drop their carbs &#8211; as they do if they switch to Splenda &#8211; they have a diuresis and get rid of a lot of potassium in their urine.  A low potassium can certainly cause cramps and muscle pains.  Maybe you should suggest that this person try it again with a potassium supplement this time.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Nancy M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 16:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikihow is a hoot!  I&#039;ve got a customized home page set up from http://google.com/ig and one of my favorite RSS links is from wikihow.com with such funny things like:
How to walk like a model
How to whistle using grass
How to care for a donkey
Calculate your age by chocolate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikihow is a hoot!  I&#8217;ve got a customized home page set up from <a href="http://google.com/ig" rel="nofollow">http://google.com/ig</a> and one of my favorite RSS links is from wikihow.com with such funny things like:<br />
How to walk like a model<br />
How to whistle using grass<br />
How to care for a donkey<br />
Calculate your age by chocolate</p>
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		<title>By: gallier2</title>
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		<dc:creator>gallier2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 15:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, the last weeks a went reading in detail the labels of a lot of beverages and found the  results quite interesting and really surprising. All values I will give are in metric units (fortunately it is required in Europe to give labels that are based on a standard unit of measurement that can be compared accross all brands).
Cola was not among the worst offenders and contains quite a moderate amount of carbs (relativly speeking). Juices are really bad. Here my list (from memory)

Coca-Cola/Pepsi-Cola : 10.5 g/100ml
Lemonades (Orangina, Fanta, Geyer et al)
: around 10 g/ml
Ice-Tea              : ~7   g/100ml
Apple juice          : ~7   g/100ml
Pineapple juice      : 10 to 12 g/100ml
Orange juice         : 12 to 14 g/100ml
Grape juice white    : 16 g/100ml
Grape juice red      : 18 g/100ml

I thought I had the top score with red grape juice but I found in the grocery store in Luxemburg imported English products (there are quite a lot Englishmen in Luxemburg) and found a drink called Barley water that contained a whopping 23 grams of carbohydrate for 100ml.

&lt;em&gt;Hi gallier2--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the list.  For those unfamiliar with the metric system, 100 ml = about 3 1/2 ounces.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, the last weeks a went reading in detail the labels of a lot of beverages and found the  results quite interesting and really surprising. All values I will give are in metric units (fortunately it is required in Europe to give labels that are based on a standard unit of measurement that can be compared accross all brands).<br />
Cola was not among the worst offenders and contains quite a moderate amount of carbs (relativly speeking). Juices are really bad. Here my list (from memory)</p>
<p>Coca-Cola/Pepsi-Cola : 10.5 g/100ml<br />
Lemonades (Orangina, Fanta, Geyer et al)<br />
: around 10 g/ml<br />
Ice-Tea              : ~7   g/100ml<br />
Apple juice          : ~7   g/100ml<br />
Pineapple juice      : 10 to 12 g/100ml<br />
Orange juice         : 12 to 14 g/100ml<br />
Grape juice white    : 16 g/100ml<br />
Grape juice red      : 18 g/100ml</p>
<p>I thought I had the top score with red grape juice but I found in the grocery store in Luxemburg imported English products (there are quite a lot Englishmen in Luxemburg) and found a drink called Barley water that contained a whopping 23 grams of carbohydrate for 100ml.</p>
<p><em>Hi gallier2&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks for the list.  For those unfamiliar with the metric system, 100 ml = about 3 1/2 ounces.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Karen J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The variety of oils in the flavoring sounds surprisingly &#039;non-issue&#039; and delicious. It&#039;s the &quot;concentrate&quot; that makes it unhealthy (unhealthful?). Use Splenda, erithritol, and AceK and I&#039;m OK with it.
As a Mom of 2, I have to say that I&#039;m amazed at how fat those &quot;swarming friends&quot; are these days. They are positively obese at age 11. At every turn, they want the sugar...will sneak around and steal it... but I don&#039;t have any (oops! Too bad). Nobody likes coming over to our house. My kids, unfortunately, are the pariah to the sugar-seeking addicts, and in a way suffer the consequences.
Somehow though, the sugar arrives in the form of teacher treats, neighbor treats, Memorial Day parade treats, holiday treats, etc.
Can&#039;t stand it. It is everywhere.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Karen--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m sure that many moms wouldn&#039;t have a problem bringing home six 6-packs for a group of kids hanging out at the house; most moms probably wouldn&#039;t give it a moment&#039;s thought.  But if you told these same moms to instead just open a 5-pound bag of sugar, pour it into a plate, and tell the kids to &#039;come and get it,&#039; most would feel that such a thing would be intrinsically unhealthful and wouldn&#039;t do it.  Yet the soft drinks are merely sugar in disguise.  They seem so harmless.  They&#039;re anything but, especially now that they&#039;re made with HFCS.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The variety of oils in the flavoring sounds surprisingly &#8216;non-issue&#8217; and delicious. It&#8217;s the &#8220;concentrate&#8221; that makes it unhealthy (unhealthful?). Use Splenda, erithritol, and AceK and I&#8217;m OK with it.<br />
As a Mom of 2, I have to say that I&#8217;m amazed at how fat those &#8220;swarming friends&#8221; are these days. They are positively obese at age 11. At every turn, they want the sugar&#8230;will sneak around and steal it&#8230; but I don&#8217;t have any (oops! Too bad). Nobody likes coming over to our house. My kids, unfortunately, are the pariah to the sugar-seeking addicts, and in a way suffer the consequences.<br />
Somehow though, the sugar arrives in the form of teacher treats, neighbor treats, Memorial Day parade treats, holiday treats, etc.<br />
Can&#8217;t stand it. It is everywhere.</p>
<p><em>Hi Karen&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m sure that many moms wouldn&#8217;t have a problem bringing home six 6-packs for a group of kids hanging out at the house; most moms probably wouldn&#8217;t give it a moment&#8217;s thought.  But if you told these same moms to instead just open a 5-pound bag of sugar, pour it into a plate, and tell the kids to &#8216;come and get it,&#8217; most would feel that such a thing would be intrinsically unhealthful and wouldn&#8217;t do it.  Yet the soft drinks are merely sugar in disguise.  They seem so harmless.  They&#8217;re anything but, especially now that they&#8217;re made with HFCS.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 03:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And aren&#039;t teenage boys and young adult males the highest per capita soft drink consumers?  Seems to me I read that somewhere.

Cheers,
Anna

&lt;em&gt;Hi Anna--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;They absolutely are!&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And aren&#8217;t teenage boys and young adult males the highest per capita soft drink consumers?  Seems to me I read that somewhere.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Anna</p>
<p><em>Hi Anna&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>They absolutely are!</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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