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		<title>By: Elle</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/inspirational-story-and-cautionary-tale/comment-page-1/#comment-11985</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lump?  How &#039;bout tears freely flowing?  Beautiful.

&lt;em&gt;It is beautiful.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lump?  How &#8217;bout tears freely flowing?  Beautiful.</p>
<p><em>It is beautiful.</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: LCforevah</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCforevah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Mike, I had completely forgotten about Jim Fixx and how he died. I remember that in one of his books he had described a typical breakfast, and I remember it was both high in fat and carbs, a lethal combination.

It would be good if you could compile a list of famous people like Fixx and Hoyt who have cardiovascular problems in spite of their rigorous exercise regimens. It would be a good list to show to the highcarb/lowfat crowd when they want to argue about how well their diet works.

&lt;em&gt;Hi LC--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;It would be nice to have such a list.  Maybe someone out there will have the time to compile it because I don&#039;t right now.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;The problems of Jim Fixx and Dick Hoyt bring up an interesting situation that I wrote about in Slow Burn.  Although most people equate the two, there is a big difference between health and conditioning.  Both Fixx and Hoyt were (are) in terrific condition, but were (are) they healthy?  I wouldn&#039;t think so since both had heart attacks.  Winston Churchill certainly wasn&#039;t in very good condition, but he was pretty healthy since he lived to be 90+ years old.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;The trick is to be both in good condition and be healthy.  Exercise leads to conditioning.  Diet leads to good health.  Both, working together, give us the optimal situation.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Mike, I had completely forgotten about Jim Fixx and how he died. I remember that in one of his books he had described a typical breakfast, and I remember it was both high in fat and carbs, a lethal combination.</p>
<p>It would be good if you could compile a list of famous people like Fixx and Hoyt who have cardiovascular problems in spite of their rigorous exercise regimens. It would be a good list to show to the highcarb/lowfat crowd when they want to argue about how well their diet works.</p>
<p><em>Hi LC&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>It would be nice to have such a list.  Maybe someone out there will have the time to compile it because I don&#8217;t right now.</em></p>
<p><em>The problems of Jim Fixx and Dick Hoyt bring up an interesting situation that I wrote about in Slow Burn.  Although most people equate the two, there is a big difference between health and conditioning.  Both Fixx and Hoyt were (are) in terrific condition, but were (are) they healthy?  I wouldn&#8217;t think so since both had heart attacks.  Winston Churchill certainly wasn&#8217;t in very good condition, but he was pretty healthy since he lived to be 90+ years old.</em></p>
<p><em>The trick is to be both in good condition and be healthy.  Exercise leads to conditioning.  Diet leads to good health.  Both, working together, give us the optimal situation.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 01:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made the mistake of playing this at work--half my department was in tears.  I also remembered our next door neighbor, who was in supposedly stupendous shape but dropped dead at the age of 47.  Thanks for sharing and for the caution.

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m glad you and your co-workers enjoyed and were inspired by it.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made the mistake of playing this at work&#8211;half my department was in tears.  I also remembered our next door neighbor, who was in supposedly stupendous shape but dropped dead at the age of 47.  Thanks for sharing and for the caution.</p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m glad you and your co-workers enjoyed and were inspired by it.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: John Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is not that this type of exercise is bad or good but that this man has given himself and his son a type of satisfaction that very few people receive in life.Blessings come in many forms and I&#039;ll be counting mine tonight.

&lt;em&gt;Hi John--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I agree about the exercise giving this man great satisfaction and I admire him tremendously, but it doesn&#039;t change the fact that hard core endurance exercise is not without risk.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is not that this type of exercise is bad or good but that this man has given himself and his son a type of satisfaction that very few people receive in life.Blessings come in many forms and I&#8217;ll be counting mine tonight.</p>
<p><em>Hi John&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I agree about the exercise giving this man great satisfaction and I admire him tremendously, but it doesn&#8217;t change the fact that hard core endurance exercise is not without risk.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: LCforevah</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCforevah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Perricone, the complexion doctor who wrote &quot;The Wrinkle Cure&quot; comes right out and states in his latest book about weight loss, that it is not good to exercise more than 20 minutes daily because of how inflammation gets in the way of weight loss and causes other types of problems in the body.

It&#039;s really frustrating to watch how this guy changed one word in the phrase &quot;low carb diet&quot;, and everybody pays attention ! By calling it the &quot;anti-inflammatory diet&quot; and selling it as a way for women to get a beautiful complexion, he sidestepped all the low carb controversy.

Sigh. Maybe I should just tell my friends to go use the &quot;anti-inflammatory diet&quot; to get a beautiful face and forget bringing up their obesity and heart problems! They&#039;ll be getting rid of them anyway!

&lt;em&gt;Hi LC--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;The South Beach Diet guy did the same thing.  He adamantly insists that his diet is NOT a low-carb diet, but it certainly is.  Same with Perricone.  At this point - at least in the publishing biz - low carb is a dirty word.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Perricone, the complexion doctor who wrote &#8220;The Wrinkle Cure&#8221; comes right out and states in his latest book about weight loss, that it is not good to exercise more than 20 minutes daily because of how inflammation gets in the way of weight loss and causes other types of problems in the body.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really frustrating to watch how this guy changed one word in the phrase &#8220;low carb diet&#8221;, and everybody pays attention ! By calling it the &#8220;anti-inflammatory diet&#8221; and selling it as a way for women to get a beautiful complexion, he sidestepped all the low carb controversy.</p>
<p>Sigh. Maybe I should just tell my friends to go use the &#8220;anti-inflammatory diet&#8221; to get a beautiful face and forget bringing up their obesity and heart problems! They&#8217;ll be getting rid of them anyway!</p>
<p><em>Hi LC&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>The South Beach Diet guy did the same thing.  He adamantly insists that his diet is NOT a low-carb diet, but it certainly is.  Same with Perricone.  At this point &#8211; at least in the publishing biz &#8211; low carb is a dirty word.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hummel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hummel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the two of them pass by in last year&#039;s Boston Marathon.  What an incredible inspiration.

Is there some chance that all that steady-state cardio exercise is not good for your ticker ?  I wonder about the chronic low grade inflammation, oxidative stress and immune suppression that comes from multi-hour workouts.  Are there any scientific studies that show damage from this sort of exercise ?  I expect someone doing a slowburn/interval training type of workout a couple times a week would be better off.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Paul--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;There is a plethora of scientific information showing that hard, continuous endurance exercise causes a host of problems including increased inflammation, immune suppression, more frequent illnesses, joint problems, and a host of others.  But telling people who are deeply committed to such exercise that it&#039;s bad for them is like telling vegetarians that their diet isn&#039;t healthful.  They don&#039;t believe it.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the two of them pass by in last year&#8217;s Boston Marathon.  What an incredible inspiration.</p>
<p>Is there some chance that all that steady-state cardio exercise is not good for your ticker ?  I wonder about the chronic low grade inflammation, oxidative stress and immune suppression that comes from multi-hour workouts.  Are there any scientific studies that show damage from this sort of exercise ?  I expect someone doing a slowburn/interval training type of workout a couple times a week would be better off.</p>
<p><em>Hi Paul&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>There is a plethora of scientific information showing that hard, continuous endurance exercise causes a host of problems including increased inflammation, immune suppression, more frequent illnesses, joint problems, and a host of others.  But telling people who are deeply committed to such exercise that it&#8217;s bad for them is like telling vegetarians that their diet isn&#8217;t healthful.  They don&#8217;t believe it.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Neal Winkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neal Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seen this video a about a week ago for the first time - very, very inspirational.

However, I have a cautionary tale as well, as I wonder if the large volume of training required and the shear stress placed upon the body by these sorts of extreme endurance events didn&#039;t contribute to his condition. Current medical dogma places too much emphasis on long, slow, steady-state aerobic activity for health, and I won&#039;t be the least bit surprised if we find out someday that these extremes are in fact detrimental.

Interval training has been shown to do everything steady-state aerobics can without the negative side effects like muscle atrophy.

It&#039;s time to stop running yourselves into the grave.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Neal--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Good points all.  I agree completely.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seen this video a about a week ago for the first time &#8211; very, very inspirational.</p>
<p>However, I have a cautionary tale as well, as I wonder if the large volume of training required and the shear stress placed upon the body by these sorts of extreme endurance events didn&#8217;t contribute to his condition. Current medical dogma places too much emphasis on long, slow, steady-state aerobic activity for health, and I won&#8217;t be the least bit surprised if we find out someday that these extremes are in fact detrimental.</p>
<p>Interval training has been shown to do everything steady-state aerobics can without the negative side effects like muscle atrophy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to stop running yourselves into the grave.</p>
<p><em>Hi Neal&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Good points all.  I agree completely.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Joanna Crombie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna Crombie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! This is a great story and video.  Thanks for sharing them on your page.

I am the Mom of a disabled child and I see many parents of severely disabled children devoting their lives to their children. They are heros, like this dad.  I have an easy life because my daughter just has Down Syndrome and my biggest battle with her is trying to get her on a low carb diet!

Thanks again,
Joanna Crombie

&lt;em&gt;Hi Joanna--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m glad you enjoyed them.  Keep working on the low-carb diet with your daughter.  It will pay off.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Best--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! This is a great story and video.  Thanks for sharing them on your page.</p>
<p>I am the Mom of a disabled child and I see many parents of severely disabled children devoting their lives to their children. They are heros, like this dad.  I have an easy life because my daughter just has Down Syndrome and my biggest battle with her is trying to get her on a low carb diet!</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Joanna Crombie</p>
<p><em>Hi Joanna&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed them.  Keep working on the low-carb diet with your daughter.  It will pay off.</em></p>
<p><em>Best&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kustes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Kustes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that video!  I recall seeing it about 6 months ago and it&#039;s inspirational everytime.  Thanks!

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m glad you enjoyed it.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that video!  I recall seeing it about 6 months ago and it&#8217;s inspirational everytime.  Thanks!</p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed it.</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Liberati</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Liberati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very touching and inspiring story. All too often we take things for granted. I know I do. This really puts things in perspective. Thanks for the post Doc.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Steve--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;My pleasure.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very touching and inspiring story. All too often we take things for granted. I know I do. This really puts things in perspective. Thanks for the post Doc.</p>
<p><em>Hi Steve&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>My pleasure.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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