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		<title>By: Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/folic-acid-and-cognitive-impairment/#comment-12954</link>
		<dc:creator>Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mike,

In follow up to comment #32, Sallie Fallon in her book, Nourishing Traditions 2d ed has a chapter on &quot;Raw Meat Appetizers&quot; and she states on page 231, &quot;The problem of parasites in beef or lamb is easily solved.  Simply freeze the meat for 14 days.  According to the United States Department of Agriculture, this will kill off all parasites.&quot;  She also states that parasitic infections are common in Japanese and Koreans who frequently eat raw fish, so parasitic infection from raw flesh must be taken seriously and then because fish flesh texture does not handle freezing well she recommends to prevent parasite infection from fish, &quot;to marinate or ferment fish in an acid solution of lemon juice, lime juice or whey.  This will effectively kill off all parasites and pathogens and will serve to predigest the fish as well.&quot;

Porter

&lt;em&gt;Hi Porter--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Makes sense.  I had just never heard of it.  I do know that some parasites have a cystic stage that is very difficult to kill, even by freezing.
&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Best--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mike,</p>
<p>In follow up to comment #32, Sallie Fallon in her book, Nourishing Traditions 2d ed has a chapter on &#8220;Raw Meat Appetizers&#8221; and she states on page 231, &#8220;The problem of parasites in beef or lamb is easily solved.  Simply freeze the meat for 14 days.  According to the United States Department of Agriculture, this will kill off all parasites.&#8221;  She also states that parasitic infections are common in Japanese and Koreans who frequently eat raw fish, so parasitic infection from raw flesh must be taken seriously and then because fish flesh texture does not handle freezing well she recommends to prevent parasite infection from fish, &#8220;to marinate or ferment fish in an acid solution of lemon juice, lime juice or whey.  This will effectively kill off all parasites and pathogens and will serve to predigest the fish as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Porter</p>
<p><em>Hi Porter&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Makes sense.  I had just never heard of it.  I do know that some parasites have a cystic stage that is very difficult to kill, even by freezing.<br />
</em></p>
<p><em>Best&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Porter Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Porter Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Mike,

On #29 Sue&#039;s comment.  I believe Sallie Fallon recommends raw meat/fish dishes and she says that freezing the food first for a number of days will kill any parasites that they may contain.

Porter

&lt;em&gt;Hi Porter--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t know if I agree with that or not.  I need to look into it when I get some time.  I know freezing doesn&#039;t kill all parasites, but I don&#039;t know whether or not it kills all parasites that one might find in liver.
&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Mike,</p>
<p>On #29 Sue&#8217;s comment.  I believe Sallie Fallon recommends raw meat/fish dishes and she says that freezing the food first for a number of days will kill any parasites that they may contain.</p>
<p>Porter</p>
<p><em>Hi Porter&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t know if I agree with that or not.  I need to look into it when I get some time.  I know freezing doesn&#8217;t kill all parasites, but I don&#8217;t know whether or not it kills all parasites that one might find in liver.<br />
</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Paul B.</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/folic-acid-and-cognitive-impairment/#comment-12543</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike--can&#039;t wait to read that post! Seriously, one of the nicest surprises about going low carb is how, um, manageable one&#039;s bathroom habits become.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Paul--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;It is indeed nice.  I&#039;ll post it as soon as I can.  The blogworthy material is stacking up.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike&#8211;can&#8217;t wait to read that post! Seriously, one of the nicest surprises about going low carb is how, um, manageable one&#8217;s bathroom habits become.</p>
<p><em>Hi Paul&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>It is indeed nice.  I&#8217;ll post it as soon as I can.  The blogworthy material is stacking up.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: gallier2</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/folic-acid-and-cognitive-impairment/#comment-12486</link>
		<dc:creator>gallier2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;feces odor&quot; thing does not apply only to animals. It works also on humans. What a relief for my family since I low-carb ;-)

&lt;em&gt;Hi gallier2--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;You are right.  I&#039;ve got an entire post sort of ready in my head on this very issue.  I just need to get it down on electrons.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Best--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;feces odor&#8221; thing does not apply only to animals. It works also on humans. What a relief for my family since I low-carb <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>Hi gallier2&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>You are right.  I&#8217;ve got an entire post sort of ready in my head on this very issue.  I just need to get it down on electrons.</em></p>
<p><em>Best&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When eating liver I heard that one should freeze it for a while then thaw it out and then eat it.  This gets rid of any toxins.  Is this correct?

&lt;em&gt;Hi Sue--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;This is the first I&#039;ve ever heard of this idea.  It doesn&#039;t make much sense to me.  I&#039;ve eaten fresh liver a zillion times and, as far as I can tell, have never had a problem.  I don&#039;t know what the toxins would be in liver, anyway.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When eating liver I heard that one should freeze it for a while then thaw it out and then eat it.  This gets rid of any toxins.  Is this correct?</p>
<p><em>Hi Sue&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>This is the first I&#8217;ve ever heard of this idea.  It doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me.  I&#8217;ve eaten fresh liver a zillion times and, as far as I can tell, have never had a problem.  I don&#8217;t know what the toxins would be in liver, anyway.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kustes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Kustes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Doc,
Check &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.texasgrassfedbeef.com/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slanker&#039;s Grassfed Meats&lt;/a&gt; for kidney.  I have 2 more kidneys, a beef heart, and a beef tongue waiting for me in the freezer.  You can get all kinds of stuff brought to you.

Enjoy
Scott

&lt;em&gt;Hi Scott--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the info--I&#039;ll give them a try.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Doc,<br />
Check <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.texasgrassfedbeef.com/index.htm" rel="nofollow">Slanker&#8217;s Grassfed Meats</a> for kidney.  I have 2 more kidneys, a beef heart, and a beef tongue waiting for me in the freezer.  You can get all kinds of stuff brought to you.</p>
<p>Enjoy<br />
Scott</p>
<p><em>Hi Scott&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks for the info&#8211;I&#8217;ll give them a try.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: annebanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>annebanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two comments on comments: First, LCForevah, #17: yep, not only are they often grumpy, uptight, petty, micromanager types, but every vegetarian and every person on a low-fat diet that I know seems to always be getting a cold, have a cold, or be getting over a cold. They also always seem to look washed out and have dull, lifeless hair.

And #19, Esther: Agree with you totally on the wrongness of manipulating pets&#039; diets. A few years ago I started adding meat scraps  to my dog&#039;s dry food. He loves this, of course, but the vet reacted in horror, saying I needed to watch his fat intake. And watch it I do... go right down his delighted gullet. And here&#039;s the interesting part: The dog had this terrible arthritis problem, limping noticeably, and was on a daily medication. I started feeding him delicious meat fat, scraps, and greasy juice from roasts mixed in with his dry food. Now his coat is shiny again and he acts like a younger dog, and I don&#039;t give him the medication anymore. What is in dog food, even the &quot;science&quot; brands? Lots o&#039; grain! Dogs are carnivores!

--Anne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two comments on comments: First, LCForevah, #17: yep, not only are they often grumpy, uptight, petty, micromanager types, but every vegetarian and every person on a low-fat diet that I know seems to always be getting a cold, have a cold, or be getting over a cold. They also always seem to look washed out and have dull, lifeless hair.</p>
<p>And #19, Esther: Agree with you totally on the wrongness of manipulating pets&#8217; diets. A few years ago I started adding meat scraps  to my dog&#8217;s dry food. He loves this, of course, but the vet reacted in horror, saying I needed to watch his fat intake. And watch it I do&#8230; go right down his delighted gullet. And here&#8217;s the interesting part: The dog had this terrible arthritis problem, limping noticeably, and was on a daily medication. I started feeding him delicious meat fat, scraps, and greasy juice from roasts mixed in with his dry food. Now his coat is shiny again and he acts like a younger dog, and I don&#8217;t give him the medication anymore. What is in dog food, even the &#8220;science&#8221; brands? Lots o&#8217; grain! Dogs are carnivores!</p>
<p>&#8211;Anne</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this pertains to cats, but perhaps it relates to humans somehow, too.  When we took our cats off commercial food (no dry kibble or canned grain-free meat &amp; vegetable) and put them on raw ground whole chickens (supplemented with E, Bs, salmon oil, egg yolks, chicken hearts &amp; chicken livers, etc.,  to make it more like a rodent&#039;s nutritional profile), one of the  first thing we noticed was a complete absence of feces odor in their litter boxes.  The urine still has a smell, of course (if it isn&#039;t tended to), but the cats&#039; feces are like coyote skat, lightweight, dry as a bone in about 5 minutes, and completely free of smell, sort of like owl pellets.  Amazing, yet it completely makes sense.

When we have fed canned again (due to my bad timing with the chicken grinding), the feces again stink until they are back on the raw chicken.

BTW, am about halfway through the UK doctor&#039;s Great Cholesterol Con book (started yesterday) and find it very entertaining (my mind adds a John Cleese-ian delivery to the text for better or worse, but he does have a humorous style to sucha  serious topic).

So for those who would find Colpo&#039;s book of the same title, or Ravnskov&#039;s Cholesterol Myths too daunting with all the facts, figures, and endless studies and statistics or small text, this new book might be just ticket.  I mean the book starts out with a Dalek-inspired (Dr. Who robot) quote, &quot;Instatinate, instatinate!&quot;  Whats not to like?  And I&#039;m not even a Dr. Who fan.

For those who have read the other two books I mentioned, it is a breeze to skim through.

Anna

&lt;em&gt;Hi Anna--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Though I&#039;m not a connoisseur of cat feces, your description makes sense.   I&#039;m sure it is the grain in the canned foods that triggers the odor, since a carnivore&#039;s gut is not designed to digest such.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this pertains to cats, but perhaps it relates to humans somehow, too.  When we took our cats off commercial food (no dry kibble or canned grain-free meat &#038; vegetable) and put them on raw ground whole chickens (supplemented with E, Bs, salmon oil, egg yolks, chicken hearts &#038; chicken livers, etc.,  to make it more like a rodent&#8217;s nutritional profile), one of the  first thing we noticed was a complete absence of feces odor in their litter boxes.  The urine still has a smell, of course (if it isn&#8217;t tended to), but the cats&#8217; feces are like coyote skat, lightweight, dry as a bone in about 5 minutes, and completely free of smell, sort of like owl pellets.  Amazing, yet it completely makes sense.</p>
<p>When we have fed canned again (due to my bad timing with the chicken grinding), the feces again stink until they are back on the raw chicken.</p>
<p>BTW, am about halfway through the UK doctor&#8217;s Great Cholesterol Con book (started yesterday) and find it very entertaining (my mind adds a John Cleese-ian delivery to the text for better or worse, but he does have a humorous style to sucha  serious topic).</p>
<p>So for those who would find Colpo&#8217;s book of the same title, or Ravnskov&#8217;s Cholesterol Myths too daunting with all the facts, figures, and endless studies and statistics or small text, this new book might be just ticket.  I mean the book starts out with a Dalek-inspired (Dr. Who robot) quote, &#8220;Instatinate, instatinate!&#8221;  Whats not to like?  And I&#8217;m not even a Dr. Who fan.</p>
<p>For those who have read the other two books I mentioned, it is a breeze to skim through.</p>
<p>Anna</p>
<p><em>Hi Anna&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Though I&#8217;m not a connoisseur of cat feces, your description makes sense.   I&#8217;m sure it is the grain in the canned foods that triggers the odor, since a carnivore&#8217;s gut is not designed to digest such.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: simon fellows</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon fellows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toms are those red things that came from the New World which most everyone associates with the Old World....meant to be marginally good for one  even !
...... and don&#039;t let me mention,oops, the Hunt family whom i had the misfortune to spend a night with...well one arm of them. Awful awful vegetarian bad ass Buddhist neurotic phuqers.
I couldnt get oot of there fast enough.
Lovely house mind !

Now read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&amp;grid=A1&amp;xml=/connected/2007/02/15/echeart15.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; from todays Telegraph about fat and the healing of the heart.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Simon--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Toms...tomatoes.  I get it.  I love tomatoes, and although they&#039;re a new world food, they taste much better when grown in the old world.  Something in the soil I guess.  I love gazpacho as made in Andalucia.  I got a recipe and tried to make it in the US when we got home (actually, MD tried) and it tasted nothing like the Spanish variety.  We asked a friend of ours from Spain who is a chef how to make it.  He told us that it would never taste the same made with tomatoes grown in the US.  Spanish tomatoes, said he, make all the difference.  He fooled with our recipe and made some changes that made the soup taste like the Andalucian variety despite the American tomatoes.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toms are those red things that came from the New World which most everyone associates with the Old World&#8230;.meant to be marginally good for one  even !<br />
&#8230;&#8230; and don&#8217;t let me mention,oops, the Hunt family whom i had the misfortune to spend a night with&#8230;well one arm of them. Awful awful vegetarian bad ass Buddhist neurotic phuqers.<br />
I couldnt get oot of there fast enough.<br />
Lovely house mind !</p>
<p>Now read <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&#038;grid=A1&#038;xml=/connected/2007/02/15/echeart15.xml" rel="nofollow">this</a> from todays Telegraph about fat and the healing of the heart.</p>
<p><em>Hi Simon&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Toms&#8230;tomatoes.  I get it.  I love tomatoes, and although they&#8217;re a new world food, they taste much better when grown in the old world.  Something in the soil I guess.  I love gazpacho as made in Andalucia.  I got a recipe and tried to make it in the US when we got home (actually, MD tried) and it tasted nothing like the Spanish variety.  We asked a friend of ours from Spain who is a chef how to make it.  He told us that it would never taste the same made with tomatoes grown in the US.  Spanish tomatoes, said he, make all the difference.  He fooled with our recipe and made some changes that made the soup taste like the Andalucian variety despite the American tomatoes.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: WaltK</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try standing downwind of a bean-eating vegan.

Sheesh.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Walt--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;How true, how true.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try standing downwind of a bean-eating vegan.</p>
<p>Sheesh.</p>
<p><em>Hi Walt&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>How true, how true.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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