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		<title>By: KAZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still maintain that 100-30=70, and seventy percent of kids NOT being overweight is not nearly as bad as they&#039;re making it sound.

If most kids are not overweight, then the focus should not be on changing &quot;children&quot;, only the small minority who are.

And, even then, a lot of the proposed solutions are worse than the problem.

Note that I&#039;m &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; saying the thirty percent statistic is government manipulation, or at least am not concerned about whether or not part of it is. I&#039;m saying that even if it&#039;s true, it&#039;s a small percentage of the whole, and in part it&#039;s a result of things being &lt;em&gt;better&lt;/em&gt; here than in the rest of the world, not a sign of some special fault with American culture.

If the socialist governments of other countries didn&#039;t effectively prevent the kind of prosperity we have here from happening there, THEY would be facing the same &quot;problem&quot;.

It&#039;s an embarrassment of riches, probably the best kind of problem to have.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Kaz--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;It&#039;s 30 percent who are obese, but more like half who are overweight to some extent.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;When I was a kid I ate like a hog as did all my friends.  We all ate ice cream, mashed potatoes, bread out the wazoo, and all the stuff I recommend people avoid today.  And we were all thin--at least as kids.  There is something going on now that&#039;s different.  And I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s just that kids are eating more because society in general is more affluent.  In fact, the largest rates of childhood obesity are in the children of the least affluent.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;We need to seek the cause because I fear that it is going to lead to a large health care problem down the road.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still maintain that 100-30=70, and seventy percent of kids NOT being overweight is not nearly as bad as they&#8217;re making it sound.</p>
<p>If most kids are not overweight, then the focus should not be on changing &#8220;children&#8221;, only the small minority who are.</p>
<p>And, even then, a lot of the proposed solutions are worse than the problem.</p>
<p>Note that I&#8217;m <em>not</em> saying the thirty percent statistic is government manipulation, or at least am not concerned about whether or not part of it is. I&#8217;m saying that even if it&#8217;s true, it&#8217;s a small percentage of the whole, and in part it&#8217;s a result of things being <em>better</em> here than in the rest of the world, not a sign of some special fault with American culture.</p>
<p>If the socialist governments of other countries didn&#8217;t effectively prevent the kind of prosperity we have here from happening there, THEY would be facing the same &#8220;problem&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an embarrassment of riches, probably the best kind of problem to have.</p>
<p><em>Hi Kaz&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>It&#8217;s 30 percent who are obese, but more like half who are overweight to some extent.</em></p>
<p><em>When I was a kid I ate like a hog as did all my friends.  We all ate ice cream, mashed potatoes, bread out the wazoo, and all the stuff I recommend people avoid today.  And we were all thin&#8211;at least as kids.  There is something going on now that&#8217;s different.  And I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s just that kids are eating more because society in general is more affluent.  In fact, the largest rates of childhood obesity are in the children of the least affluent.</em></p>
<p><em>We need to seek the cause because I fear that it is going to lead to a large health care problem down the road.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: KAZ</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/childhood-obesity/#comment-26563</link>
		<dc:creator>KAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darnit, I saw the headline in my newsreader and figured it would be some informative article you&#039;d written on the topic, with some new perspective, like the one about fibre being bad for our colons.

I wrote a blog entry, not to terribly long ago, where I accused the government/establishment obsession with childhood obesity of being a &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of childhood obesity. I noted that they get all hysterical about &quot;30% of children being over weight&quot;, therefore generically urging us to control our children&#039;s diets, cut back on their fat intake, et cetera, even though this means we are &lt;em&gt;needlessly&lt;/em&gt; doing that to the 70% who are, by their definition, not overweight in the first place.

The most likely way for a kid to grow into an adult who has healthy dietary self-regulation is for the kid to be allowed to regulate his diet. Either making a kid eat less OR clean his plate is a setup for either overeating or eating disorders.

Kids should be given a range of healthy food choices, but be allowed to choose what, and how much, from within that range.

Treating 100% of kids as if they need strict dietary control, when 70% of them aren&#039;t even overweight, is more likely to cause dietary issues.

Even among the overweight, calorie restriction diets just set the body&#039;s goal fat store higher, so even among the 30% the hysteria may well be causing more obesity, not less.

The reason childhood obesity is lower in other countries isn&#039;t purely because our kids are fat and decadent...it&#039;s as much or more because other countries have less access to food and leisure. Complaining about Fat Americans is a sort of global socialist Sour Grapes.

Hi Kaz--

I sort of agree with you on this one, especially the part about giving kids a range of healthy foods and allowing them to choose what and how much.  But there is something else going on.  When I was in grade school a long time ago, there was maybe one fat kid in the class.  Now a full third or more are fat by anyone&#039;s estimation, so I know more is going on than governmental manipulation of statistics.  I&quot;m willing to believe the worst of our &#039;leaders&#039; in Washington, but in this case I think they&#039;re right about the problem, but wrong about the solution.

Cheers--

MRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darnit, I saw the headline in my newsreader and figured it would be some informative article you&#8217;d written on the topic, with some new perspective, like the one about fibre being bad for our colons.</p>
<p>I wrote a blog entry, not to terribly long ago, where I accused the government/establishment obsession with childhood obesity of being a <em>cause</em> of childhood obesity. I noted that they get all hysterical about &#8220;30% of children being over weight&#8221;, therefore generically urging us to control our children&#8217;s diets, cut back on their fat intake, et cetera, even though this means we are <em>needlessly</em> doing that to the 70% who are, by their definition, not overweight in the first place.</p>
<p>The most likely way for a kid to grow into an adult who has healthy dietary self-regulation is for the kid to be allowed to regulate his diet. Either making a kid eat less OR clean his plate is a setup for either overeating or eating disorders.</p>
<p>Kids should be given a range of healthy food choices, but be allowed to choose what, and how much, from within that range.</p>
<p>Treating 100% of kids as if they need strict dietary control, when 70% of them aren&#8217;t even overweight, is more likely to cause dietary issues.</p>
<p>Even among the overweight, calorie restriction diets just set the body&#8217;s goal fat store higher, so even among the 30% the hysteria may well be causing more obesity, not less.</p>
<p>The reason childhood obesity is lower in other countries isn&#8217;t purely because our kids are fat and decadent&#8230;it&#8217;s as much or more because other countries have less access to food and leisure. Complaining about Fat Americans is a sort of global socialist Sour Grapes.</p>
<p>Hi Kaz&#8211;</p>
<p>I sort of agree with you on this one, especially the part about giving kids a range of healthy foods and allowing them to choose what and how much.  But there is something else going on.  When I was in grade school a long time ago, there was maybe one fat kid in the class.  Now a full third or more are fat by anyone&#8217;s estimation, so I know more is going on than governmental manipulation of statistics.  I&#8221;m willing to believe the worst of our &#8216;leaders&#8217; in Washington, but in this case I think they&#8217;re right about the problem, but wrong about the solution.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</p>
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