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		<title>By: Steve Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering if there is any information/studies on the effects of chickory??  The wife and I love our Community Chickory Blend coffee (New Orleans style)

&lt;em&gt;Hi Steve--

I don&#039;t know of any studies on chicory (which MD and I love as well), but I can&#039;t imagine that it would be harmful.  If you find anything, let me know.

Best--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering if there is any information/studies on the effects of chickory??  The wife and I love our Community Chickory Blend coffee (New Orleans style)</p>
<p><em>Hi Steve&#8211;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know of any studies on chicory (which MD and I love as well), but I can&#8217;t imagine that it would be harmful.  If you find anything, let me know.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: herself_nyc</title>
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		<dc:creator>herself_nyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I love this, but isn&#039;t it still the case that caffeine interferes with sleepiness?  (I mean, the sleepiness you want to feel when it&#039;s bed time, not the sleepiness you feel when you need to be alert and working.)

Once I hit 40 I found I couldn&#039;t really cope with much caffeine after noon and still sleep at night.  So I have my caffeinated coffee at breakfast, and then switch to decaf for any other I drink later in the day.   

Though at the same time I&#039;ve always ingested a lot of Diet Peach Snapple iced tea (until a couple weeks ago when I read something that convinced me to give up aspartame in favor of drinks containing Splenda only), and that probably has plenty o&#039;caffeine in it, though there&#039;s no accounting of such in the labeling.

&lt;em&gt;Hi herself_nyc--

There is no question that caffeine interferes with sleep.  I drink nothing but decaf after about 6 PM.  And it gets worse with age because liver function falls off with age.  The liver detoxifies the caffeine, so if your liver isn&#039;t working as well as it used to, you won&#039;t be able to metabolize the caffeine as quickly, and it will take you longer to be free of its effects.  That&#039;s why young people can drink coffee at night and have no trouble sleeping, but as they age the time at which they start switching over to decaf gets earlier and earlier.  I hate the taste of decaf coffee, which is why I like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPwDAZYkPds&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cafe Americano&lt;/a&gt;.  Even the decaf tastes good.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I love this, but isn&#8217;t it still the case that caffeine interferes with sleepiness?  (I mean, the sleepiness you want to feel when it&#8217;s bed time, not the sleepiness you feel when you need to be alert and working.)</p>
<p>Once I hit 40 I found I couldn&#8217;t really cope with much caffeine after noon and still sleep at night.  So I have my caffeinated coffee at breakfast, and then switch to decaf for any other I drink later in the day.   </p>
<p>Though at the same time I&#8217;ve always ingested a lot of Diet Peach Snapple iced tea (until a couple weeks ago when I read something that convinced me to give up aspartame in favor of drinks containing Splenda only), and that probably has plenty o&#8217;caffeine in it, though there&#8217;s no accounting of such in the labeling.</p>
<p><em>Hi herself_nyc&#8211;</p>
<p>There is no question that caffeine interferes with sleep.  I drink nothing but decaf after about 6 PM.  And it gets worse with age because liver function falls off with age.  The liver detoxifies the caffeine, so if your liver isn&#8217;t working as well as it used to, you won&#8217;t be able to metabolize the caffeine as quickly, and it will take you longer to be free of its effects.  That&#8217;s why young people can drink coffee at night and have no trouble sleeping, but as they age the time at which they start switching over to decaf gets earlier and earlier.  I hate the taste of decaf coffee, which is why I like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPwDAZYkPds" rel="nofollow">Cafe Americano</a>.  Even the decaf tastes good.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Theodorescu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Theodorescu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about caffeine supplementation (as it has also shown benefits in endurance and weightloss)?

Any thoughts about a:

Overstimulating the adrenals (exacerbating adrenal fatigue).

Causing tolerance, given that caffeine is a stimulant.

For those 2 reasons, I&#039;ve always favored decaf, although I respond well to caffeine. That LDL study is making me reconsider.

Fantastic articles (among many, I&#039;m just getting started reading them!).

Much thanks,

Paul

&lt;em&gt;Hi Paul--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;If caffeine causes adrenal fatigue, I&#039;ve probably got the most fatigued adrenals in America.  I have always thought the idea of adrenal fatigue was a little overblown.  I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll hear from a lot of people claiming the opposite, but until I see credible information to the contrary, that&#039;s my take on it.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m sure that with increased consumption one becomes more tolerant of caffeine.  But, at least in my case, not a whole lot more tolerant.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Give the caffeinated version a go.  See how you feel with it and moderate as necessary.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I firmly believe that coffee is a pretty healthy drink, but if I hated the taste of the stuff, I certainly wouldn&#039;t force it down.  I think a lot of people love coffee, but are afraid to drink it.  It&#039;s to those peolple I say, bottoms up.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about caffeine supplementation (as it has also shown benefits in endurance and weightloss)?</p>
<p>Any thoughts about a:</p>
<p>Overstimulating the adrenals (exacerbating adrenal fatigue).</p>
<p>Causing tolerance, given that caffeine is a stimulant.</p>
<p>For those 2 reasons, I&#8217;ve always favored decaf, although I respond well to caffeine. That LDL study is making me reconsider.</p>
<p>Fantastic articles (among many, I&#8217;m just getting started reading them!).</p>
<p>Much thanks,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
<p><em>Hi Paul&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>If caffeine causes adrenal fatigue, I&#8217;ve probably got the most fatigued adrenals in America.  I have always thought the idea of adrenal fatigue was a little overblown.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll hear from a lot of people claiming the opposite, but until I see credible information to the contrary, that&#8217;s my take on it.</em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m sure that with increased consumption one becomes more tolerant of caffeine.  But, at least in my case, not a whole lot more tolerant.</em></p>
<p><em>Give the caffeinated version a go.  See how you feel with it and moderate as necessary.</em></p>
<p><em>I firmly believe that coffee is a pretty healthy drink, but if I hated the taste of the stuff, I certainly wouldn&#8217;t force it down.  I think a lot of people love coffee, but are afraid to drink it.  It&#8217;s to those peolple I say, bottoms up.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Lark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have symptoms of hypoglycemia (brain fog, slight vertigo) after drinking coffee, and also indigestion if I have more than a couple cups in one day. Switching to decaf clears up both.

About a week ago I switched to green tea (giving the ECGC another chance vs. my stubborn last 20 pounds), and so far have had no ill effects, just the normal somewhat hyper alertness that I expect will settle down as I adapt to the caffiene.

Still, I like coffee occasionally. I put coconut milk in it (and in tea) - lovely stuff. I also favor the French press. For some reason even freshly made drip coffee tastes overcooked, harsh and stale in comparison.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Lark--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I totally agree with you about French pressed coffee: it&#039;s by far the best of the brewed coffees.  But, for my taste, it can&#039;t hold a candle to an Americano, which has a lot less caffeine.  French pressed coffee caffeine levels are probably the highest of all the brewed coffees.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have symptoms of hypoglycemia (brain fog, slight vertigo) after drinking coffee, and also indigestion if I have more than a couple cups in one day. Switching to decaf clears up both.</p>
<p>About a week ago I switched to green tea (giving the ECGC another chance vs. my stubborn last 20 pounds), and so far have had no ill effects, just the normal somewhat hyper alertness that I expect will settle down as I adapt to the caffiene.</p>
<p>Still, I like coffee occasionally. I put coconut milk in it (and in tea) &#8211; lovely stuff. I also favor the French press. For some reason even freshly made drip coffee tastes overcooked, harsh and stale in comparison.</p>
<p><em>Hi Lark&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I totally agree with you about French pressed coffee: it&#8217;s by far the best of the brewed coffees.  But, for my taste, it can&#8217;t hold a candle to an Americano, which has a lot less caffeine.  French pressed coffee caffeine levels are probably the highest of all the brewed coffees.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the person with the Diet Coke problem - try switching to Pepsi One if you want the caffeine but what to avoid the aspertame.  I wish Coke still had their Diet Coke with Splenda, but alas, now only Pepsi has caffeine AND Splenda.  A couple other soda marketers have Splenda sweetened soda, but it&#039;s also caffeine free.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Victoria--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the rundown of the soda market.  I don&#039;t drink them, so I don&#039;t have a clue as to what contains what.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Best--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the person with the Diet Coke problem &#8211; try switching to Pepsi One if you want the caffeine but what to avoid the aspertame.  I wish Coke still had their Diet Coke with Splenda, but alas, now only Pepsi has caffeine AND Splenda.  A couple other soda marketers have Splenda sweetened soda, but it&#8217;s also caffeine free.</p>
<p><em>Hi Victoria&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks for the rundown of the soda market.  I don&#8217;t drink them, so I don&#8217;t have a clue as to what contains what.</em></p>
<p><em>Best&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: athelstan</title>
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		<dc:creator>athelstan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been advised to avoid caffeine by my cardio (afib), and have never drunk coffee anyway.  Would all of the caffeine in a chocolate- flavored whey powder (no sugar) be used in the  &quot;stimulant process&quot; after consumption of two scoops, or would some be excreted in the urine?  Does caffeine compete with beta blocker-type drugs at the beta-adrenergic receptors?

&lt;em&gt;Hi athelstan--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t know how much caffeine is in two scoops of chocolate whey powder, so I can&#039;t really say whether or not there is enough to cause problems.  I doubt that there is a whole lot.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Caffeine is a central nervous system stimulant that doesn&#039;t work through the beta receptors.  It is metabolized in the liver, not the kidneys.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Best--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been advised to avoid caffeine by my cardio (afib), and have never drunk coffee anyway.  Would all of the caffeine in a chocolate- flavored whey powder (no sugar) be used in the  &#8220;stimulant process&#8221; after consumption of two scoops, or would some be excreted in the urine?  Does caffeine compete with beta blocker-type drugs at the beta-adrenergic receptors?</p>
<p><em>Hi athelstan&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t know how much caffeine is in two scoops of chocolate whey powder, so I can&#8217;t really say whether or not there is enough to cause problems.  I doubt that there is a whole lot.</em></p>
<p><em>Caffeine is a central nervous system stimulant that doesn&#8217;t work through the beta receptors.  It is metabolized in the liver, not the kidneys.</em></p>
<p><em>Best&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The espresso&#039;s even tastier if you don&#039;t top it up with extra water.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Janet--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;That&#039;s a matter of preference.  I prefer it with the water.  If it were just the espresso it wouldn&#039;t be an Americano.
&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The espresso&#8217;s even tastier if you don&#8217;t top it up with extra water.</p>
<p><em>Hi Janet&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>That&#8217;s a matter of preference.  I prefer it with the water.  If it were just the espresso it wouldn&#8217;t be an Americano.<br />
</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Levin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Levin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#65279;Just to put my 2 cents in, I use coffee as a base, adding alcohol usually in the form of whiskey or rum and occasionally unsweetened cocoa. I do take a Splenda flavored syrup and cream which may slightly reduce its poly (liquid) protection against heart disease and diabetes. My bride agrees with you on Starbucks, to the degree that entering the store makes her ill.

While I have progressed to occasionally grinding my own beans (as a sidenote, I&#039;d be curious if anyone has studied that aspect, ground vs. freshly ground) I&#039;m ignorant of what cafe americano is. Finally, the note about pregnant women giving up (coffee), if it did cause birth defects in any number, it would make thalidomide look like a picnic in the park. And since the most dangerous time would be in the first trimester when many women wouldn&#039;t even know they&#039;re pregnant, it&#039;s tantamount to advising all women not using contraception to give up coffee. At the end of the day, it&#039;s an individual decision, balancing a very small risk against a somewhat larger health benefit.

Thanks as always for the time and space to comment.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Mark--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Interesting comment and on the mark about the thalidomide.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cafe Americano is a couple of shots of espresso and enough extremely hot water to fill up the rest of a normal coffee cup.  In Italy there are no drip coffee makers--it&#039;s all espresso.  Since Americans enjoy drip coffee, the Italians figured out how to approximate the taste by using the mixture of espresso and water.  MD and I love it because it is tastier (we think) than regular drip coffee and is always hot and fresh.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#65279;Just to put my 2 cents in, I use coffee as a base, adding alcohol usually in the form of whiskey or rum and occasionally unsweetened cocoa. I do take a Splenda flavored syrup and cream which may slightly reduce its poly (liquid) protection against heart disease and diabetes. My bride agrees with you on Starbucks, to the degree that entering the store makes her ill.</p>
<p>While I have progressed to occasionally grinding my own beans (as a sidenote, I&#8217;d be curious if anyone has studied that aspect, ground vs. freshly ground) I&#8217;m ignorant of what cafe americano is. Finally, the note about pregnant women giving up (coffee), if it did cause birth defects in any number, it would make thalidomide look like a picnic in the park. And since the most dangerous time would be in the first trimester when many women wouldn&#8217;t even know they&#8217;re pregnant, it&#8217;s tantamount to advising all women not using contraception to give up coffee. At the end of the day, it&#8217;s an individual decision, balancing a very small risk against a somewhat larger health benefit.</p>
<p>Thanks as always for the time and space to comment.</p>
<p><em>Hi Mark&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Interesting comment and on the mark about the thalidomide.</em></p>
<p><em>Cafe Americano is a couple of shots of espresso and enough extremely hot water to fill up the rest of a normal coffee cup.  In Italy there are no drip coffee makers&#8211;it&#8217;s all espresso.  Since Americans enjoy drip coffee, the Italians figured out how to approximate the taste by using the mixture of espresso and water.  MD and I love it because it is tastier (we think) than regular drip coffee and is always hot and fresh.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Neil Wilkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re Metronidazole.

In the UK patients, patients are warned to avoid alcohol whilst taking this drug, or risk the mother of all headaches. This is routine advice, but I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever come across anyone who paid the price!

&lt;em&gt;Hi Neil--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Metronidizoe - trade name Flagyl - does indeed have Antibuse-like effects.  Patients are always warned about drinking while taking it.  I have given a zillion prescriptions of it for a number of parasitic infections, but I don&#039;t recall anyone ever telling me about a problem with drinking.  Either none of my patients drank alcohol while taking it or none of them reported any side effects to me if they did.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Metronidazole.</p>
<p>In the UK patients, patients are warned to avoid alcohol whilst taking this drug, or risk the mother of all headaches. This is routine advice, but I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever come across anyone who paid the price!</p>
<p><em>Hi Neil&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Metronidizoe &#8211; trade name Flagyl &#8211; does indeed have Antibuse-like effects.  Patients are always warned about drinking while taking it.  I have given a zillion prescriptions of it for a number of parasitic infections, but I don&#8217;t recall anyone ever telling me about a problem with drinking.  Either none of my patients drank alcohol while taking it or none of them reported any side effects to me if they did.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Karen J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Eades,
We like Eight O&#039;Clock 100% Columbian most of the time. If you like a darker roast, Caribou Columbian is very good. They are both excellent coffees- earthy, floral, winey, and mellow.
However, they don&#039;t have the astringency that Starbucks has, which might not appeal to you.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Karen J--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t particularly like the astringency of Starbucks, but MD does.  I&#039;ll give the two you recommend a try if I can get them ground for espresso.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Eades,<br />
We like Eight O&#8217;Clock 100% Columbian most of the time. If you like a darker roast, Caribou Columbian is very good. They are both excellent coffees- earthy, floral, winey, and mellow.<br />
However, they don&#8217;t have the astringency that Starbucks has, which might not appeal to you.</p>
<p><em>Hi Karen J&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t particularly like the astringency of Starbucks, but MD does.  I&#8217;ll give the two you recommend a try if I can get them ground for espresso.</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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