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		<title>By: Levi Wallach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Levi Wallach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 04:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our 16-month-old daughter is doing great, but of course the older she gets, the more assertive she is about food.  Luckily, she is still nursing, which apparently gives some defense against developing obesity as well, much more so than formula.  Her first food that she was crazy about was roast chicken. Her main snack is baby carrots or frozen peas. While she doesn&#039;t like bread, when we&#039;ve given her a cracker, she seems like a drug addict, so at most we will give her one cracker per day.  The same seems to be the case with popcorn, which we don&#039;t have in the house, but she will come across at get togethers and its extremely difficult to say no when everyone else around you is eating that thing, but you&#039;re telling your child no, you can&#039;t eat that!  Funnily enough, ice seems to have the same addictive qualities that crackers and popcorn do for her, so whenever we&#039;re desperate, it&#039;s usually the ice that comes out!

I do think part of the problem is that parents, especially new ones, are concerned that there kids might not eat ENOUGH.  There&#039;s so much emphasis on this very early in a child&#039;s development, that I think it has a profound effect on making parents a bit paranoid about their child eating.  So if the child decided they don&#039;t want to eat the healthier stuff, I&#039;m betting a lot of parents just think &quot;oh well, I tried&quot; and then go on to give them whatever it is they WILL eat just to get the calories in.  Of course, kids will survive quite well without eating much or anything for a meal or two or three, and then they will be a lot more likely to eat anything, healthy or not, once that real hunger kicks in!

&lt;em&gt;Hi Levi--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Having reared three and now working on three grandchildren I know whereof you speak.  It&#039;s difficult, especially when giving in is so easy.  It&#039;s like the TV.  It&#039;s so easy to just plop them in front of the TV to keep them happy.  At least now there are videos available that feed their brains as they watch.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;It would be better, I&#039;m sure, if kids never had any of the sugary high-carby crap that all kids love, but as a practical matter, you can&#039;t totally keep them from it.  So, controlling it is way better than most unenlightened parents do.  The one thing a always encourage people NOT to do, is to not use sweets as a reward.  If you do, the kids end up associating sweets with something wonderful, and, in my opinion, it makes it much more difficult for them to deal with their sweet addiction later on because of all the psychological implications.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Best--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our 16-month-old daughter is doing great, but of course the older she gets, the more assertive she is about food.  Luckily, she is still nursing, which apparently gives some defense against developing obesity as well, much more so than formula.  Her first food that she was crazy about was roast chicken. Her main snack is baby carrots or frozen peas. While she doesn&#8217;t like bread, when we&#8217;ve given her a cracker, she seems like a drug addict, so at most we will give her one cracker per day.  The same seems to be the case with popcorn, which we don&#8217;t have in the house, but she will come across at get togethers and its extremely difficult to say no when everyone else around you is eating that thing, but you&#8217;re telling your child no, you can&#8217;t eat that!  Funnily enough, ice seems to have the same addictive qualities that crackers and popcorn do for her, so whenever we&#8217;re desperate, it&#8217;s usually the ice that comes out!</p>
<p>I do think part of the problem is that parents, especially new ones, are concerned that there kids might not eat ENOUGH.  There&#8217;s so much emphasis on this very early in a child&#8217;s development, that I think it has a profound effect on making parents a bit paranoid about their child eating.  So if the child decided they don&#8217;t want to eat the healthier stuff, I&#8217;m betting a lot of parents just think &#8220;oh well, I tried&#8221; and then go on to give them whatever it is they WILL eat just to get the calories in.  Of course, kids will survive quite well without eating much or anything for a meal or two or three, and then they will be a lot more likely to eat anything, healthy or not, once that real hunger kicks in!</p>
<p><em>Hi Levi&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Having reared three and now working on three grandchildren I know whereof you speak.  It&#8217;s difficult, especially when giving in is so easy.  It&#8217;s like the TV.  It&#8217;s so easy to just plop them in front of the TV to keep them happy.  At least now there are videos available that feed their brains as they watch.</em></p>
<p><em>It would be better, I&#8217;m sure, if kids never had any of the sugary high-carby crap that all kids love, but as a practical matter, you can&#8217;t totally keep them from it.  So, controlling it is way better than most unenlightened parents do.  The one thing a always encourage people NOT to do, is to not use sweets as a reward.  If you do, the kids end up associating sweets with something wonderful, and, in my opinion, it makes it much more difficult for them to deal with their sweet addiction later on because of all the psychological implications.</em></p>
<p><em>Best&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too read the &quot;health&quot; pages even tho I am not sure why I keep tortuing myself!

I am also, sadly, addicted to reading blogs and message boards.

On many of the message boards people ask how they can get their kids to eat &quot;healthy&quot;. The suggestions, hiding veggies in other foods, don&#039;t teach the child anything. But, what burns me more than anything are the suggestions to give the kids veggies with salsa instead of dressing (less fat) and giving them &quot;healthy snacks&quot; like pretzels, pudding with cool whip, etc. Even when they mention real fruit, it&#039;s always got a &quot;dipper&quot; of something loaded with sugar.

Almost all the advice is to cut the fat, increase the &quot;healthy&quot; carbs. Let me tell you, I&#039;ve been lambasted so many times for trying to point out that cool whip, pretzels, etc are not good food!

I fear that the public is so brainwashed against fat!!! And they are so brainwashed to believe the &quot;health benefits&quot; of fiber....so what is a good fiber content? 3g per serving!!! No mention of checking the rest of the catbs, oh no....those are fine!

Eh....it makes me sick!

On a good note, the article about Dr Vernon (The Cure For Diabetes) did make it to MSN!!!

Thanks for all your posts Dr Mike....I enjoy reading them, and learn something almost every time!

&lt;em&gt;Hi Cindy--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the kind words.  As to the nutritional changes we need so sorely...they will come, but I fear it will take a lot of time and a lot of disease before it happens.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Best--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too read the &#8220;health&#8221; pages even tho I am not sure why I keep tortuing myself!</p>
<p>I am also, sadly, addicted to reading blogs and message boards.</p>
<p>On many of the message boards people ask how they can get their kids to eat &#8220;healthy&#8221;. The suggestions, hiding veggies in other foods, don&#8217;t teach the child anything. But, what burns me more than anything are the suggestions to give the kids veggies with salsa instead of dressing (less fat) and giving them &#8220;healthy snacks&#8221; like pretzels, pudding with cool whip, etc. Even when they mention real fruit, it&#8217;s always got a &#8220;dipper&#8221; of something loaded with sugar.</p>
<p>Almost all the advice is to cut the fat, increase the &#8220;healthy&#8221; carbs. Let me tell you, I&#8217;ve been lambasted so many times for trying to point out that cool whip, pretzels, etc are not good food!</p>
<p>I fear that the public is so brainwashed against fat!!! And they are so brainwashed to believe the &#8220;health benefits&#8221; of fiber&#8230;.so what is a good fiber content? 3g per serving!!! No mention of checking the rest of the catbs, oh no&#8230;.those are fine!</p>
<p>Eh&#8230;.it makes me sick!</p>
<p>On a good note, the article about Dr Vernon (The Cure For Diabetes) did make it to MSN!!!</p>
<p>Thanks for all your posts Dr Mike&#8230;.I enjoy reading them, and learn something almost every time!</p>
<p><em>Hi Cindy&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks for the kind words.  As to the nutritional changes we need so sorely&#8230;they will come, but I fear it will take a lot of time and a lot of disease before it happens.</em></p>
<p><em>Best&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m involved in a discussion on a low-carb board about the link between poverty and obesity, and I think it plays in here as well.  If you have kids, and a limited food budget, it&#039;s cheaper on the front end to feed them loads of starch - potatoes, pasta, hamburger helper, frozen pizza pops, etc - and a meal at McYukkles only costs about 5 bucks.  It&#039;s cheaper to buy kids soda or juice to take to school than bottled water (at least where I live!)

One poster in the discussion made two grocery lists - one low-carb, one for cheaper &#039;regular&#039; fare.  The low-carb list worked out to be $80 more, even with shopping from the deals/specials flyer.  For a family on a budget, that makes a huge difference.

Rather than study whether people with kids are fatter than people without (what a stupid waste of money), maybe this link should be studied a little more closely. Course, they&#039;d likely focus on the fat in the pizza pops and cheap cookies.  Crazy.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Tracy--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;There is no question that a low-carb diet is more expensive than a high-carb diet.  Using cheaper cuts of meat and even cheaper meat (chicken, for instance) can make it less expensive, but it will still cost more than a bunch of high-carb junk.  A Mercedes costs more than a Ford Pinto.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;It&#039;s a classic case of pay now or pay later.  And when we later, we pay not only dollars, but in less enjoyment of life as well.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;One of the ways I like to look at is to see how much protein your paying for.  Protein is really the only essential macronutrient, and we all need plenty of good quality protein.   So, look at the number of grams of protein in some kind of junk food, divide those grams into the price of the food to get the price per gram of protein.  Then compare it to something like ground beef, and you&#039;ll discover that the ground beef is a real bargain.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m involved in a discussion on a low-carb board about the link between poverty and obesity, and I think it plays in here as well.  If you have kids, and a limited food budget, it&#8217;s cheaper on the front end to feed them loads of starch &#8211; potatoes, pasta, hamburger helper, frozen pizza pops, etc &#8211; and a meal at McYukkles only costs about 5 bucks.  It&#8217;s cheaper to buy kids soda or juice to take to school than bottled water (at least where I live!)</p>
<p>One poster in the discussion made two grocery lists &#8211; one low-carb, one for cheaper &#8216;regular&#8217; fare.  The low-carb list worked out to be $80 more, even with shopping from the deals/specials flyer.  For a family on a budget, that makes a huge difference.</p>
<p>Rather than study whether people with kids are fatter than people without (what a stupid waste of money), maybe this link should be studied a little more closely. Course, they&#8217;d likely focus on the fat in the pizza pops and cheap cookies.  Crazy.</p>
<p><em>Hi Tracy&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>There is no question that a low-carb diet is more expensive than a high-carb diet.  Using cheaper cuts of meat and even cheaper meat (chicken, for instance) can make it less expensive, but it will still cost more than a bunch of high-carb junk.  A Mercedes costs more than a Ford Pinto.</em></p>
<p><em>It&#8217;s a classic case of pay now or pay later.  And when we later, we pay not only dollars, but in less enjoyment of life as well.</em></p>
<p><em>One of the ways I like to look at is to see how much protein your paying for.  Protein is really the only essential macronutrient, and we all need plenty of good quality protein.   So, look at the number of grams of protein in some kind of junk food, divide those grams into the price of the food to get the price per gram of protein.  Then compare it to something like ground beef, and you&#8217;ll discover that the ground beef is a real bargain.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: hap</title>
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		<dc:creator>hap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MRE:  I completely agree.  I only took exception to Cathy&#039;s comment about equating junk food availability / childhood obesity to child abuse and flipped the coin, so-to-speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MRE:  I completely agree.  I only took exception to Cathy&#8217;s comment about equating junk food availability / childhood obesity to child abuse and flipped the coin, so-to-speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

This is a brilliant post.  As I read, I had the same thought . . . what about the carbs?  You answered that.

Anecdotal evidence isn&#039;t very scientific, I realize, but I&#039;ve often thought that a successful diet could be extrapolated from what ISN&#039;T on the plate of the obese people at the buffets.  Repeatedly, they have plates filled with breads, other starchy items, and what protein they do eat is breaded and fried.  Color, or lack thereof, is even a predictor!

Keep up the great work.  I read the blog every day.

Richard

&lt;em&gt;Hi Richard--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the kind words.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I, too, enjoy looking at plates in the all-you-can-eat buffet lines.  I try to look at the plates without looking at the person putting on the food to see if I can determine that person&#039;s state of obesity by simply looking at his (or her) food choices.  After having done it for years, I can tell you that there is a high correlation between sugary, starchy, breaded foods and obesity.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>This is a brilliant post.  As I read, I had the same thought . . . what about the carbs?  You answered that.</p>
<p>Anecdotal evidence isn&#8217;t very scientific, I realize, but I&#8217;ve often thought that a successful diet could be extrapolated from what ISN&#8217;T on the plate of the obese people at the buffets.  Repeatedly, they have plates filled with breads, other starchy items, and what protein they do eat is breaded and fried.  Color, or lack thereof, is even a predictor!</p>
<p>Keep up the great work.  I read the blog every day.</p>
<p>Richard</p>
<p><em>Hi Richard&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks for the kind words.</em></p>
<p><em>I, too, enjoy looking at plates in the all-you-can-eat buffet lines.  I try to look at the plates without looking at the person putting on the food to see if I can determine that person&#8217;s state of obesity by simply looking at his (or her) food choices.  After having done it for years, I can tell you that there is a high correlation between sugary, starchy, breaded foods and obesity.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Arne Andersson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arne Andersson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a good blog!
I live in Sweden and here low-carb is sort of underground movement. We are told to eat fibres and as little fat as possible and &quot;light&quot; products.
A movement with LCHF have started thanks to a doctor (who had to leave her job). It seems this issue is more controversial than politics.

I have just read your book from 1889 &quot;Thin so fast&quot; in swedish. You were there early where some of us are now. I´m waiting for your newest book in swedish.
The obese epidemic is coming to Sweden some years after the US, but it is recongnized as a problem here as well. Diabetes (type 2) is increasing. The authorities say: More fibres less fat and the problems grows worse.
I&#039;m surprised to see so many young people in bars and cafés that are (still) slim. But I know that their drinking sweet drinks and sweet bred and cookies will get to them later on.
But no-one will give them a warning.
It&#039;s so sad.
It makes me sad to to see that photo with the children on top of this post. But it&#039;s a very good illustration to the situation.
When will the authorities wake up?

&lt;em&gt;Hi Arne--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for writing.  The first book I ever had translated was when Thin So Fast, my first book, got translated into Swedish, so your comment brings back fond memories.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t have any control over what languages the books get translated into.  Foreign publishers buy the rights from our US publisher, then translate the books into their language.  Protein Power has been published in Spanish, French, Portuguese, Hebrew, and Chinese.   Maybe you could encourage a Swedish publisher to buy the Swedish rights and translate.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Better yet, read it in English.  Your English is very good.  You shouldn&#039;t have a problem.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Sorry to hear that Sweden has caught the obesity disease. &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a good blog!<br />
I live in Sweden and here low-carb is sort of underground movement. We are told to eat fibres and as little fat as possible and &#8220;light&#8221; products.<br />
A movement with LCHF have started thanks to a doctor (who had to leave her job). It seems this issue is more controversial than politics.</p>
<p>I have just read your book from 1889 &#8220;Thin so fast&#8221; in swedish. You were there early where some of us are now. I´m waiting for your newest book in swedish.<br />
The obese epidemic is coming to Sweden some years after the US, but it is recongnized as a problem here as well. Diabetes (type 2) is increasing. The authorities say: More fibres less fat and the problems grows worse.<br />
I&#8217;m surprised to see so many young people in bars and cafés that are (still) slim. But I know that their drinking sweet drinks and sweet bred and cookies will get to them later on.<br />
But no-one will give them a warning.<br />
It&#8217;s so sad.<br />
It makes me sad to to see that photo with the children on top of this post. But it&#8217;s a very good illustration to the situation.<br />
When will the authorities wake up?</p>
<p><em>Hi Arne&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks for writing.  The first book I ever had translated was when Thin So Fast, my first book, got translated into Swedish, so your comment brings back fond memories.</em></p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t have any control over what languages the books get translated into.  Foreign publishers buy the rights from our US publisher, then translate the books into their language.  Protein Power has been published in Spanish, French, Portuguese, Hebrew, and Chinese.   Maybe you could encourage a Swedish publisher to buy the Swedish rights and translate.</em></p>
<p><em>Better yet, read it in English.  Your English is very good.  You shouldn&#8217;t have a problem.</em></p>
<p><em>Sorry to hear that Sweden has caught the obesity disease. </em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: ethyl d</title>
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		<dc:creator>ethyl d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Introducing children to carbs starts early. When babies are introduced to food, what do they start on? Baby cereal. When parents start on the baby food jars, babies tend to like the fruits better than the meats or vegetables, so they move on from cereal to little jars of bananas and peaches, etc. Moving on to toddlers, how many times do you see a parent handing the kid a bag of cheerios when he gets fussy? And since parents have been informed by all the experts that grains form the basis for a healthy diet, and fruits are great too, they are doing a good thing for their kids by feeding them these things. Add to that that little kids are extremely finicky eaters, and you feel successful feeding them if you can find anything at all they will eat, you are likely to give in when they refuse to eat their vegetables and chicken leg and open up a can of spaghetti-o&#039;s just to get them to eat something. In the world we live in, the poor nutritional choices are so prevalent and the marketing so invasive and the government propaganda so supportive of the food and agribusiness industries, it takes a very nutritiionally well educated and firmly determined parent to never allow all the processed foods and sugary snacks into the home and to never let their child near a McDonald&#039;s. Children can&#039;t eat all the junk they do if they don&#039;t know it exists and their parents don&#039;t buy it for them, but good luck keeping them away from it all. To keep kids away from this kind of food you have to cook your own food at home, and how many families have a parent who regularly does that any more? And unless you home school, the garbage that schools offer for lunch will introduce your kids to the wonderful world of the standard American diet if they escaped it during their pre-school years, and they will likely choose the school lunch over what you send with them because it&#039;s what all their friends are eating.

And kids have an amazing preference for the junk versions of food over the real thing. Once they know what the manufactured versions of food are like, they don&#039;t want homemade versions of the same. &quot;Mom, your vegetable soup doesn&#039;t taste like my alphabet soup. Why doesn&#039;t your homemade bread taste like the stuff from the store? I don&#039;t want to go that restaurant, I want McDonald&#039;s. Your mashed potatoes have lumps in them, the KFC ones taste better.&quot;

I face this problem now whenever my grandchildren visit a few times a year from out of state. My daughter doesn&#039;t cook, so just about everything her children eat comes out of a box, wrapper, or can, or from a restaurant, including fast foods ones, so what do I feed the children when they come to visit me and they think pizza rolls and pop tarts are what one eats for dinner and that canned chicken noodle soup or ramen noodles are the only kind of soups there are? The best I can do is to shop for the few vegetables, fruits, meats and nuts they will eat and make it clear there are no sweets or snack foods in my home to beg for as alternatives.

I watch my daughter and son-in-law introducing their little boy who is nearly two to food, and they feed him what he likes, not what he ought to have. French fries, instant mashed potatoes, crackers, pudding, sweetened yoghurt--standard toddler fare.

I can&#039;t break my grandchildren&#039;s starch addiction in the brief times I have with them, but maybe when they grow up I will be there to tell them there&#039;s another way to eat that will make them feel a whole lot better and prevent or reverse the diseases that are heading their way. When I was growing up, I ate like they do, and have been able to change my ways (thanks first to Dr. Atkins and now you) in the last few years. Keep putting the message out there--some of us are listening and healthier as a result!

&lt;em&gt;Hi Ethyl--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the great comment. &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I feel for you.  Fortunately, our daughter-in-law has taken our advice and prepares great meals for our grandsons.  When the first one was an infant and was to start on baby food there was no place to get organic baby food so she made her own.  She would cook turkey breast or some other kind of meat and puree it in a food processor.  Same with green beans, carrots, squash and other non-starchy veggies.  He had NO cereal.  And he&#039;s fine.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I see so many parents that do exactly what your daughter is doing.  I&#039;m hoping the kids come through it okay, but I have my doubts. &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Keep after it.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Best--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Introducing children to carbs starts early. When babies are introduced to food, what do they start on? Baby cereal. When parents start on the baby food jars, babies tend to like the fruits better than the meats or vegetables, so they move on from cereal to little jars of bananas and peaches, etc. Moving on to toddlers, how many times do you see a parent handing the kid a bag of cheerios when he gets fussy? And since parents have been informed by all the experts that grains form the basis for a healthy diet, and fruits are great too, they are doing a good thing for their kids by feeding them these things. Add to that that little kids are extremely finicky eaters, and you feel successful feeding them if you can find anything at all they will eat, you are likely to give in when they refuse to eat their vegetables and chicken leg and open up a can of spaghetti-o&#8217;s just to get them to eat something. In the world we live in, the poor nutritional choices are so prevalent and the marketing so invasive and the government propaganda so supportive of the food and agribusiness industries, it takes a very nutritiionally well educated and firmly determined parent to never allow all the processed foods and sugary snacks into the home and to never let their child near a McDonald&#8217;s. Children can&#8217;t eat all the junk they do if they don&#8217;t know it exists and their parents don&#8217;t buy it for them, but good luck keeping them away from it all. To keep kids away from this kind of food you have to cook your own food at home, and how many families have a parent who regularly does that any more? And unless you home school, the garbage that schools offer for lunch will introduce your kids to the wonderful world of the standard American diet if they escaped it during their pre-school years, and they will likely choose the school lunch over what you send with them because it&#8217;s what all their friends are eating.</p>
<p>And kids have an amazing preference for the junk versions of food over the real thing. Once they know what the manufactured versions of food are like, they don&#8217;t want homemade versions of the same. &#8220;Mom, your vegetable soup doesn&#8217;t taste like my alphabet soup. Why doesn&#8217;t your homemade bread taste like the stuff from the store? I don&#8217;t want to go that restaurant, I want McDonald&#8217;s. Your mashed potatoes have lumps in them, the KFC ones taste better.&#8221;</p>
<p>I face this problem now whenever my grandchildren visit a few times a year from out of state. My daughter doesn&#8217;t cook, so just about everything her children eat comes out of a box, wrapper, or can, or from a restaurant, including fast foods ones, so what do I feed the children when they come to visit me and they think pizza rolls and pop tarts are what one eats for dinner and that canned chicken noodle soup or ramen noodles are the only kind of soups there are? The best I can do is to shop for the few vegetables, fruits, meats and nuts they will eat and make it clear there are no sweets or snack foods in my home to beg for as alternatives.</p>
<p>I watch my daughter and son-in-law introducing their little boy who is nearly two to food, and they feed him what he likes, not what he ought to have. French fries, instant mashed potatoes, crackers, pudding, sweetened yoghurt&#8211;standard toddler fare.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t break my grandchildren&#8217;s starch addiction in the brief times I have with them, but maybe when they grow up I will be there to tell them there&#8217;s another way to eat that will make them feel a whole lot better and prevent or reverse the diseases that are heading their way. When I was growing up, I ate like they do, and have been able to change my ways (thanks first to Dr. Atkins and now you) in the last few years. Keep putting the message out there&#8211;some of us are listening and healthier as a result!</p>
<p><em>Hi Ethyl&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>Thanks for the great comment. </em></p>
<p><em>I feel for you.  Fortunately, our daughter-in-law has taken our advice and prepares great meals for our grandsons.  When the first one was an infant and was to start on baby food there was no place to get organic baby food so she made her own.  She would cook turkey breast or some other kind of meat and puree it in a food processor.  Same with green beans, carrots, squash and other non-starchy veggies.  He had NO cereal.  And he&#8217;s fine.</em></p>
<p><em>I see so many parents that do exactly what your daughter is doing.  I&#8217;m hoping the kids come through it okay, but I have my doubts. </em></p>
<p><em>Keep after it.</em></p>
<p><em>Best&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: hap</title>
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		<dc:creator>hap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy,  What about the parent who pushes so hard for their children to be thin that the children end up with eating disorders?  Where does your line of thinking end, and who makes the rules for what&#039;s good and bad?  How do we know there isn&#039;t a medical issue behind that child&#039;s weight?  Some of my family members would probably consider locking up the parents of an extremely skinny child so you might be careful what you wish for.

&lt;em&gt;Hi hap--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t think parents should push hard for their children to be skinny.  If parents control the food at home, provide wholesome non-junk food meals, and ration treats, most kids will be normal weight.  It&#039;s when the kids have a full time diet of junk food--and, sadly, all too many do--that they get fat.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;When our kids were living at home, we ate good food and had very little junk.  Unbelievable as this may sound, some parents packed goody bags for their kids when they came to our house to hang out with our kids because their kids whined that we didn&#039;t ave anything they liked to eat at our house.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I know our kids ate junk food when they got cars and got mobile, but we didn&#039;t have it in the house.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy,  What about the parent who pushes so hard for their children to be thin that the children end up with eating disorders?  Where does your line of thinking end, and who makes the rules for what&#8217;s good and bad?  How do we know there isn&#8217;t a medical issue behind that child&#8217;s weight?  Some of my family members would probably consider locking up the parents of an extremely skinny child so you might be careful what you wish for.</p>
<p><em>Hi hap&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t think parents should push hard for their children to be skinny.  If parents control the food at home, provide wholesome non-junk food meals, and ration treats, most kids will be normal weight.  It&#8217;s when the kids have a full time diet of junk food&#8211;and, sadly, all too many do&#8211;that they get fat.</em></p>
<p><em>When our kids were living at home, we ate good food and had very little junk.  Unbelievable as this may sound, some parents packed goody bags for their kids when they came to our house to hang out with our kids because their kids whined that we didn&#8217;t ave anything they liked to eat at our house.</em></p>
<p><em>I know our kids ate junk food when they got cars and got mobile, but we didn&#8217;t have it in the house.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Calianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh that amazes me  - they&#039;re calling those fat consumption figures &quot;significantly higher&quot; than for those without children.

Consuming 4.9 g more fat on a daily basis would amount to a whopping 44.1 extra calories per day. &lt;em&gt;IF&lt;/em&gt; you did that every day of the year, and &lt;em&gt;IF&lt;/em&gt; you didn&#039;t manage to run that many calories off chasing after the little darlings, it would still only amount to a 4-1/2 lb weight gain in the course of a year.

Since most of the fat would have been connected to starches and sugars (cake, cookies, fries, mac&#039;n&#039;cheese, buns on the hot dogs and burgers, etc), I can only imagine how many additional carbs they would have consumed on a daily basis - 150 g? 200? More?

Oh yeah, I completely forgot - it&#039;s not the hundreds of grams of carbs in your diet that make you fat, it&#039;s the measly 44.1 calories of extra fat you consumed! How could we be so blind?!

&lt;em&gt;Hi Calianna--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;They&#039;ll be blind until the scales finally fall from their eyes.  Who knows how long that will take. &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that amazes me  &#8211; they&#8217;re calling those fat consumption figures &#8220;significantly higher&#8221; than for those without children.</p>
<p>Consuming 4.9 g more fat on a daily basis would amount to a whopping 44.1 extra calories per day. <em>IF</em> you did that every day of the year, and <em>IF</em> you didn&#8217;t manage to run that many calories off chasing after the little darlings, it would still only amount to a 4-1/2 lb weight gain in the course of a year.</p>
<p>Since most of the fat would have been connected to starches and sugars (cake, cookies, fries, mac&#8217;n'cheese, buns on the hot dogs and burgers, etc), I can only imagine how many additional carbs they would have consumed on a daily basis &#8211; 150 g? 200? More?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, I completely forgot &#8211; it&#8217;s not the hundreds of grams of carbs in your diet that make you fat, it&#8217;s the measly 44.1 calories of extra fat you consumed! How could we be so blind?!</p>
<p><em>Hi Calianna&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>They&#8217;ll be blind until the scales finally fall from their eyes.  Who knows how long that will take. </em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kustes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Kustes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this study a few days ago too and had to laugh at their &quot;high fat&quot; choices...pizza?  ice cream?  There&#039;s more than alot of fat in those.  And like Anna, I too read my local paper&#039;s &quot;health and fitness&quot; section and shake my head.  I&#039;ve sent a few articles the way of the editors, but they aren&#039;t interested in real information, only in what fits current dogma.  I really love their &quot;low fat cooking&quot; section.  The best recipe was where they extolled the virtues of Angel Food Cake because it is fat-free.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Scott--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&quot;extolled the virtues of Angel Food Cake because it is fat-free.&quot;  Unbelievable, but, all too sadly, true.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I once saw a Q&amp;A in one of those papers where a person writing in asked what she could do to make a meal she was preparing for her bridge club more healthful.  She described the menu, which was sliced flank steak on a bed of spinach with some grilled asparagus and tomatoes.  The dolt who wrote the column and gave the answer told the questioner that her meal calculated out to be 47% fat with the meat and the salad dressing she was using.  She told her to use low-fat or no-fat dressing and to ADD a potato and a dinner roll.  If she would make those changes that would get the fat content down to a healthful 30%.  Incredible!  Adding pure carb to get the fat percentage down will certainly make a meal more healthful, at least in the minds of idiots like that one.  And we wonder why obesity and diabetes are skyrocketing.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Cheers--&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;MRE &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this study a few days ago too and had to laugh at their &#8220;high fat&#8221; choices&#8230;pizza?  ice cream?  There&#8217;s more than alot of fat in those.  And like Anna, I too read my local paper&#8217;s &#8220;health and fitness&#8221; section and shake my head.  I&#8217;ve sent a few articles the way of the editors, but they aren&#8217;t interested in real information, only in what fits current dogma.  I really love their &#8220;low fat cooking&#8221; section.  The best recipe was where they extolled the virtues of Angel Food Cake because it is fat-free.</p>
<p><em>Hi Scott&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;extolled the virtues of Angel Food Cake because it is fat-free.&#8221;  Unbelievable, but, all too sadly, true.</em></p>
<p><em>I once saw a Q&#038;A in one of those papers where a person writing in asked what she could do to make a meal she was preparing for her bridge club more healthful.  She described the menu, which was sliced flank steak on a bed of spinach with some grilled asparagus and tomatoes.  The dolt who wrote the column and gave the answer told the questioner that her meal calculated out to be 47% fat with the meat and the salad dressing she was using.  She told her to use low-fat or no-fat dressing and to ADD a potato and a dinner roll.  If she would make those changes that would get the fat content down to a healthful 30%.  Incredible!  Adding pure carb to get the fat percentage down will certainly make a meal more healthful, at least in the minds of idiots like that one.  And we wonder why obesity and diabetes are skyrocketing.</em></p>
<p><em>Cheers&#8211;</em></p>
<p><em>MRE </em></p>
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