Comments on: The lipid hypothesis starting to get negative press http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/ A critical look at nutritional science and anything else that strikes my fancy. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:38:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Leslie http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-116511 Leslie Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:52:20 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-116511 Here's a link to a great presentation by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick to the British Medical Association on the lack of correlation between saturated fat consumption and heart disease that I got from Donna's great blog site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPYaVcXo1I You might want to embed it on your main blog page - it's right up your readers' alley! <em>I already posted on this. Here is the <a href="http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/cholesterol-and-heart-disease-no-correlation/" rel="nofollow">post</a>. Cheers</em> Here’s a link to a great presentation by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick to the British Medical Association on the lack of correlation between saturated fat consumption and heart disease that I got from Donna’s great blog site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPYaVcXo1I

You might want to embed it on your main blog page – it’s right up your readers’ alley!

I already posted on this. Here is the post.

Cheers

]]> By: Donna M. Byrne http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-113816 Donna M. Byrne Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:33:54 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-113816 Good article. Good post. But it is disappointing that at the top of the page is a Google ad titled Statins Lower Cholesterol. The page to which it links (http://About-Lowering-Cholesterol.info) gives the same old establishment advice about avoiding saturated fats. No need to publish my comment, but I would have thought you would not need the Google ad revenue so much as to allow this kind of junk to clutter you otherwise excellent website. Donna M. Byrne Professor of Law (and fan of good science and sound advice) William Mitchell College of Law Food Law Prof Blog: http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/foodlaw/ <em>I'm in the process of getting rid of the ads. I just found out that I can control what appears in the ads in the sense that I can refuse to put up certain groups of ads. I hate ads that are counter to my own purposes, but somehow there is a sort of justice, though, when I get paid for ads for statins while I'm in the process of bashing those very drugs. Took a look around your blog. Interesting. I'll be back.</em> Good article. Good post. But it is disappointing that at the top of the page is a Google ad titled Statins Lower Cholesterol. The page to which it links (http://About-Lowering-Cholesterol.info) gives the same old establishment advice about avoiding saturated fats.

No need to publish my comment, but I would have thought you would not need the Google ad revenue so much as to allow this kind of junk to clutter you otherwise excellent website.

Donna M. Byrne
Professor of Law (and fan of good science and sound advice)
William Mitchell College of Law
Food Law Prof Blog: http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/foodlaw/

I’m in the process of getting rid of the ads. I just found out that I can control what appears in the ads in the sense that I can refuse to put up certain groups of ads. I hate ads that are counter to my own purposes, but somehow there is a sort of justice, though, when I get paid for ads for statins while I’m in the process of bashing those very drugs.

Took a look around your blog. Interesting. I’ll be back.

]]> By: David MacPhail http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-113471 David MacPhail Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:08:46 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-113471 I would not count the lipid hypothesis down and out by a long shot. Judged by the following article which was splashed all over every media today the low fat, high carb camp is determined to defend their turf by continuing to cite the Western diet as high fat, blaming it for the current epidemic of obesity while in the same breath advocating the low fat, high carb diet as the cure. www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/03/17/2191471.htm Overeating disrupts web of genes Monday, 17 March 2008 Maggie Fox Reuters obese woman Networks of genes are disrupted in people who are obese, some that can't be detected using simple blood tests (Source: iStockphoto) Overeating disrupts entire networks of genes in the body, causing not only obesity, but diabetes and heart disease, in ways that may be possible to predict, researchers report. The researchers developed a new method of analysing DNA and used it to discover that obesity is not only complex, something already known, but complex in ways that had not been previously understood. "Obesity is not a disease that is the result of a single change to a single gene. It changes entire networks," says Dr Eric Schadt, executive director of genetics at Merck Research Laboratories. His team identified networks of hundreds of genes that appear to be thrown out of kilter when mice are fed a high-fat diet. "This network is completely rocked by exposure to a high-fat, Western-type diet," Schadt says. <em>Problem is that mice aren't simply little furry humans. They are rodents - we are primates. There is a big difference. Mice react differently to high-fat diets than do humans - a fact that researchers and others spreading this kind of nonsense would do well to keep in mind. I don't think the lipophobes are preparing to surrender any time soon, but they're going to have to do better than this study.</em> I would not count the lipid hypothesis down and out by a long shot. Judged by the following article which was splashed all over every media today the low fat, high carb camp is determined to defend their turf by continuing to cite the Western diet as high fat, blaming it for the current epidemic of obesity while in the same breath advocating the low fat, high carb diet as the cure.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/03/17/2191471.htm

Overeating disrupts web of genes
Monday, 17 March 2008 Maggie Fox
Reuters
obese woman

Networks of genes are disrupted in people who are obese, some that can’t be detected using simple blood tests (Source: iStockphoto)

Overeating disrupts entire networks of genes in the body, causing not only obesity, but diabetes and heart disease, in ways that may be possible to predict, researchers report.

The researchers developed a new method of analysing DNA and used it to discover that obesity is not only complex, something already known, but complex in ways that had not been previously understood.

“Obesity is not a disease that is the result of a single change to a single gene. It changes entire networks,” says Dr Eric Schadt, executive director of genetics at Merck Research Laboratories.

His team identified networks of hundreds of genes that appear to be thrown out of kilter when mice are fed a high-fat diet.

“This network is completely rocked by exposure to a high-fat, Western-type diet,” Schadt says.

Problem is that mice aren’t simply little furry humans. They are rodents – we are primates. There is a big difference. Mice react differently to high-fat diets than do humans – a fact that researchers and others spreading this kind of nonsense would do well to keep in mind.

I don’t think the lipophobes are preparing to surrender any time soon, but they’re going to have to do better than this study.

]]> By: Susan http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112552 Susan Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:57:05 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112552 Further to my comment about the CBC documentary, Dr. Jay Wortman, the physician who was behind this remarkable study, has a blog at http://www.drjaywortman.com/blog/wordpress/about . It's definitely worth a read. Further to my comment about the CBC documentary, Dr. Jay Wortman, the physician who was behind this remarkable study, has a blog at http://www.drjaywortman.com/blog/wordpress/about . It’s definitely worth a read.

]]> By: Terry http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112546 Terry Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:20:35 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112546 Correction the movie started in theaters last October (2007). Correction the movie started in theaters last October (2007).

]]> By: Terry http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112541 Terry Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:02:23 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112541 Here is the link to the site for the documentary these to guys made. It looks like it will be in theaters starting in October. http://www.kingcorn.net/ And a link to GMA printed version with viewer comments. The comments are interesting to read as they run the gamut from corn growers defending their livelihood to doctors agreeing with the film and promoting Gary Taubes book to people who don't have a clue. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=4439943&page=1 Here is the link to the site for the documentary these to guys made. It looks like it will be in theaters starting in October.

http://www.kingcorn.net/

And a link to GMA printed version with viewer comments. The comments are interesting to read as they run the gamut from corn growers defending their livelihood to doctors agreeing with the film and promoting Gary Taubes book to people who don’t have a clue.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=4439943&page=1

]]> By: Terry http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112537 Terry Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:32:22 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112537 Saw this interesting clip this morning from Good Morning America http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=6960848&ch=4226723&src=news Two college guys decide to find out about corn from seed to end products and how much of a role it plays in diet and disease. Some of what they found out surprised me and I thought I knew about most corn based products having been a label reader for more than 20 years. Even though they don't talk about corn oil in the video piece what they do say couples nicely with what Mary Enig has to say. Maybe with more pieces like this more people will seriously look at low carb. Although it is interesting to note how two college guys deciding to research something and finding out that corn is bad for us get such good press but when a doctor or research scientist actually says the same thing, and has sound research and experience to back it up, he or she gets dissed. <em>Great video clip. Thanks for sending.</em> Saw this interesting clip this morning from Good Morning America

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=6960848&ch=4226723&src=news

Two college guys decide to find out about corn from seed to end products and how much of a role it plays in diet and disease. Some of what they found out surprised me and I thought I knew about most corn based products having been a label reader for more than 20 years. Even though they don’t talk about corn oil in the video piece what they do say couples nicely with what Mary Enig has to say.

Maybe with more pieces like this more people will seriously look at low carb. Although it is interesting to note how two college guys deciding to research something and finding out that corn is bad for us get such good press but when a doctor or research scientist actually says the same thing, and has sound research and experience to back it up, he or she gets dissed.

Great video clip. Thanks for sending.

]]> By: Richard Nikoley http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112175 Richard Nikoley Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:07:27 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-112175 That Alternet article is actually Part II on the same subject from the author. I dug around and came up with part I: http://www.healthbeatblog.org/2008/02/the-cholesterol.html <em>Great find! Thanks.</em> That Alternet article is actually Part II on the same subject from the author. I dug around and came up with part I:

http://www.healthbeatblog.org/2008/02/the-cholesterol.html

Great find! Thanks.

]]> By: Erich http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-111923 Erich Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:40:36 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-111923 Dr Mike: "When this has been done for statins, the only group showing and decrease in all-cause mortality was males under the age of 65 who had already had a heart attack. And even this wasn’t much of a decrease - probably not enough to put everyone in that category on a statin." What study are you referring to in your comment to Alex? <em>Read <a href="http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/statin-panic/" rel="nofollow">this post</a>.</em> Dr Mike:

“When this has been done for statins, the only group showing and decrease in all-cause mortality was males under the age of 65 who had already had a heart attack. And even this wasn’t much of a decrease – probably not enough to put everyone in that category on a statin.”

What study are you referring to in your comment to Alex?

Read this post.

]]> By: Susan http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-111911 Susan Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:47:16 +0000 http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statins/the-lipid-hypothesis-starting-to-get-negative-press/#comment-111911 I thought you might enjoy the following link to a piece about a CBC documentary: http://www.cbc.ca/thelens/bigfatdiet/index.html . Alert Bay, a native community in British Columbia, has gone on a low carb diet for the past year. The exciting part is that the study was funded by Health Canada. If you scroll down this page (http://www.cbc.ca/thelens/bigfatdiet/wortman.html), the second last paragraph has a link to a downloadable pdf showing the preliminary results. I thought you might enjoy the following link to a piece about a CBC documentary: http://www.cbc.ca/thelens/bigfatdiet/index.html . Alert Bay, a native community in British Columbia, has gone on a low carb diet for the past year. The exciting part is that the study was funded by Health Canada. If you scroll down this page (http://www.cbc.ca/thelens/bigfatdiet/wortman.html), the second last paragraph has a link to a downloadable pdf showing the preliminary results.

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