Cheers

Sherrie

I was wondering if this was still happening or if you changed your mind?

Cheers

Sherrie

Nope, it’s happening. I’ve just had a lot going on lately and haven’t been able to give it the attention it needs.

MRE

“… your tissues need about 200 g glucose per day. If you go on a low-carb diet and go into ketosis, the ketone bodies will pinch hit for about 70 or so grams of sugar. So, if your on a low-carb diet, you need about 130 g glucose per day, but you don’t have to get it from the diet. If you’re eating 50 g carbs that means you have a deficit of about 80 grams, which can be made from protein. I wrote a post about this whole process a while back.”

In the above example, does this mean that we need more than 80 gms of protien (say 100g of protein due to conversion inefficiencies or metabolic advantage) to support gluconeogenesis? How much more protein beyond this is needed to support other normal functions?

I went back and re-read the metabolism and ketosis post, but this question remained. Thanks for your help again.

The rule of thumb, at least according to my friend Don Layman, who is one of the world’s experts on protein, is that about 80% of protein can be converted to carb. So, assuming that ketones can pinch hit for about 70 or so grams of carbs and you get 50 grams in your diet, that leaves around 80 or so grams of carbs that have to be made from protein. Therefore 100 grams of dietary protein per day should do the trick.

MRE

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/20/1748243

Thanks for the link. I hadn’t heard this interview. It was nice because the interviewer let Gary talk and explain himself.

I have a quick question for you, Dr Eades. How many grams of carb (in the diet) per day does it take to do nothing more than provide the blood with it’s required range of glucose level? Not so much as to be stored, but not so little that the body has to make glucose from protein? All of a sudden, I’m very curious about that. And can’t seem to find the answer.

Thank you!

Hey Elle–

MRE

I think Mr. Colpo is using the Howard Stern-like theatrics to sell whatever. I don’t like his lack of respect in calling you “Eades” when you have a title. May seem little but I think it speaks volumes.

Yep, about a pound of meat per day.

MRE

I assume that the protein:fat ratio you are talking about is the ratio of lean body mass to fat mass. If so, as long as your caloric intake is in the range where the metabolic advantage makes a difference, it should help.

Cheers–

MRE

Thanks for the response, Dr. Eades!
Heck, sorry, I wasn’t very clear with my question, was I?
What I’d love your opinion on, if you can indulge me a little longer…
I lost about 35 kilos (77 pounds) doing low cal -argh, it was hell on earth!! Now, if anything, now I’m a little underweight.
However, I feel like I lost more muscle than fat by dieting that way, and I’ve ended up with a ratio of lean body mass to fat mass that I really am not happy with…you know, like a ‘thin-fat person’.
What I’m wondering is, will doing low carb (I’ve been nearly zero carb for a month now), perhaps due in part to metabolic advantage(?) help to slowly give me a better lean body mass to fat mass ratio, without having to do weight training? Meaning, will some of my muscle mass that was shrivelled away return just by eating enough protein or do I need to lift weights?
I so very much appreciate your time! Thanks again!

Billi-Jean

Yes, I think the diet you are on will re-compose your body, so to speak. You must make sure you’re getting plenty of leucine – you need somewhere in the neighborhood of 8-12 grams per day, which you should get easily if you’re eating plenty of meat. If not, you should probably supplement. As you continue on your diet (which doesn’t have to be zero carbs, BTW), you should find yourself losing more fat and gaining some muscle. It certainly wouldn’t hurt to do some resistance training along the way to speed up the muscle-building process.

MRE

Have wondered if folks whose body fat gets past a certain point start developing an obsessive compulsive-type biochemistry/disorder;they become seemingly obsessed with low body fat, keeping their body fat low when surely from an evol perspective it was and presumably is far better hormonally and bio-psychologically to have a bit o weight ?

I read somewhere where one of the Caesers (not the salad maker,incidentally) was very wary of very slim guards as it was felt they’d be more likely to off him in a coup versus the slightly more portly.

Please lets not waste good time and energy on the fella..he strikes me as knobhead but maybe if he is as ill as he sounds he is somewhat deserved of our pity and perhaps even compassion..albeit at a distance.

Hey Simon–

I’ve got only one more night of drinking and gambling. I’m on Denver -1.5 tonight. Wish me luck.

MRE