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		<title>By: Scott Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;&#62; My last saliva test (about 6 months ago) indicated that my levels were where they should be.  &#60;&#60;&#60;

Dr. Eades, perhaps *your* doctor is making the age-old mistake when it comes to measuring your hormones:  s/he is comparing them against the average of your age group.  The idea behind HRT is not to adjust your hormones relative to your current age, but to keep them at youthful levels, generally about where they would be at 30 years of age.

If you are over 40, then almost assuredly your hormones have declined, and you would benefit tremedously from HRT.  I follow the research on this like a hawk, and testostorone, especially, has been absolutely validated as a highly beneficial hormone that is correlated with heart disease and other negative conditions as it declines.  Additionally, in the last year it has finally been put to rest that testosterone supplementation will increase chances of prostate cancer, or aggrevate/worsen existing cancer.

Anyway, I assume you have Tivo, and now that you have it, you can hardly imagine life before Tivo.  This is what most Tivo/DVR users think, anyway.  Well, if you're above 40, HRT is the same.  Until you start, you don't realize just how amazing it is.  After you start, you realize you can never go back.

BTW, I hope your wide is using bio-identical hormones.  Otherwise, likely she placing herself at a significant cancer risk using Big Pharma's non-bio-identical versions (Big Pharma cannot patent the bio-identical versions, so they create synthetic, non-identical versions, that come loaded with negative side effects.)

Finally, while here, have you heard about Pycnogenol?  It's a propriatary supplement, the inner bark of a specific French grown pine tree, and heavily researched (easily googled).  I bring this up because a study by the maker of Pycnogenol appeared last year showing that taking Pycnogenol before a meal greatly delays the absorbtion of glucose within meals, for up to 8 hours after it's taken.  I take 100mg of Pycnogenol prior to any meal now, in which I will have more that 10 grams of carbs.  I also take Phase2 (a white bean extract) for the same purpose (easily googled, too).  Pycnogenol, though, seems to be a powerhouse supplement for numerous benefits, and blocking carbs is definitely one you might want to look into.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-02/mg-pdg020707.php

&lt;em&gt;In this case, I am my doctor.  And I didn't make the age-old mistake.  I'm a little cleverer than that.  My testosterone isn't at the 30 year-old level, but it's not far off.  It's close enough that I don't feel the need to boost it. Not at this time, anyway.  Who knows what I'll find on my next test?

My wife is taking bio-identical hormones.  She wouldn't take any other kind.

I'm familiar with both pycnogenol and the while bean extract (which goes by a number of names).  I like the former, although I'm not sure I believe the part about how it delays the absorption of glucose.  I don't like the latter because it sends undigested carbs to the colon, which is not where they belong.  I has also been shown to cause some pancreatic enlargement, and I'm not sure of the long-term consequences of that.  It's much easier for me to not eat the carbs so that I don't have to worry about blocking them or delaying their absorption.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; My last saliva test (about 6 months ago) indicated that my levels were where they should be.  &lt;&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Dr. Eades, perhaps *your* doctor is making the age-old mistake when it comes to measuring your hormones:  s/he is comparing them against the average of your age group.  The idea behind HRT is not to adjust your hormones relative to your current age, but to keep them at youthful levels, generally about where they would be at 30 years of age.</p>
<p>If you are over 40, then almost assuredly your hormones have declined, and you would benefit tremedously from HRT.  I follow the research on this like a hawk, and testostorone, especially, has been absolutely validated as a highly beneficial hormone that is correlated with heart disease and other negative conditions as it declines.  Additionally, in the last year it has finally been put to rest that testosterone supplementation will increase chances of prostate cancer, or aggrevate/worsen existing cancer.</p>
<p>Anyway, I assume you have Tivo, and now that you have it, you can hardly imagine life before Tivo.  This is what most Tivo/DVR users think, anyway.  Well, if you&#8217;re above 40, HRT is the same.  Until you start, you don&#8217;t realize just how amazing it is.  After you start, you realize you can never go back.</p>
<p>BTW, I hope your wide is using bio-identical hormones.  Otherwise, likely she placing herself at a significant cancer risk using Big Pharma&#8217;s non-bio-identical versions (Big Pharma cannot patent the bio-identical versions, so they create synthetic, non-identical versions, that come loaded with negative side effects.)</p>
<p>Finally, while here, have you heard about Pycnogenol?  It&#8217;s a propriatary supplement, the inner bark of a specific French grown pine tree, and heavily researched (easily googled).  I bring this up because a study by the maker of Pycnogenol appeared last year showing that taking Pycnogenol before a meal greatly delays the absorbtion of glucose within meals, for up to 8 hours after it&#8217;s taken.  I take 100mg of Pycnogenol prior to any meal now, in which I will have more that 10 grams of carbs.  I also take Phase2 (a white bean extract) for the same purpose (easily googled, too).  Pycnogenol, though, seems to be a powerhouse supplement for numerous benefits, and blocking carbs is definitely one you might want to look into.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-02/mg-pdg020707.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-02/mg-pdg020707.php</a></p>
<p><em>In this case, I am my doctor.  And I didn&#8217;t make the age-old mistake.  I&#8217;m a little cleverer than that.  My testosterone isn&#8217;t at the 30 year-old level, but it&#8217;s not far off.  It&#8217;s close enough that I don&#8217;t feel the need to boost it. Not at this time, anyway.  Who knows what I&#8217;ll find on my next test?</p>
<p>My wife is taking bio-identical hormones.  She wouldn&#8217;t take any other kind.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m familiar with both pycnogenol and the while bean extract (which goes by a number of names).  I like the former, although I&#8217;m not sure I believe the part about how it delays the absorption of glucose.  I don&#8217;t like the latter because it sends undigested carbs to the colon, which is not where they belong.  I has also been shown to cause some pancreatic enlargement, and I&#8217;m not sure of the long-term consequences of that.  It&#8217;s much easier for me to not eat the carbs so that I don&#8217;t have to worry about blocking them or delaying their absorption.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-library/low-carb-diets-reduce-oxidative-stress/comment-page-1/#comment-188704</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I slowly make my way through older posts, I have to say I'm more and more impressed.  You've completely risen about the vast majority of your peers, in my opinion, by having an open-mind to all available research, and continually seeking the Truth.

This blog entry is an excellent example of digging deep and assembling a more complete picture.

BTW, I read de Grey's book, found it excellent overall, but have a few quibbles of my own with it.  I'm a long-time member of ImmInst.org (nickname: DukeNukem), and I contribute to the MPrize (a member of "The 300").  I'm a firm believer that our lives can be extended indefinitely, given enough brain-power behind the effort.

Curious, have you read Breakthrough, the newest book by Suzanne Somers?  At 47, I supplement with several hormones (since age 41), including hGH and testosterone, and believe strong in the benefits of doing so.  Have you considered HRT, or perhaps you already do?

Thanks for the kind words.  I'm impressed that someone is actually digging through the archives.

&lt;em&gt;My wife does HRT because she is perimenopausal and her saliva tests show she needs the replacement.  My last saliva test (about 6 months ago) indicated that my levels were where they should be.  If they do start to fall - which I'm certain they will at some point - I will strongly consider it.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I slowly make my way through older posts, I have to say I&#8217;m more and more impressed.  You&#8217;ve completely risen about the vast majority of your peers, in my opinion, by having an open-mind to all available research, and continually seeking the Truth.</p>
<p>This blog entry is an excellent example of digging deep and assembling a more complete picture.</p>
<p>BTW, I read de Grey&#8217;s book, found it excellent overall, but have a few quibbles of my own with it.  I&#8217;m a long-time member of ImmInst.org (nickname: DukeNukem), and I contribute to the MPrize (a member of &#8220;The 300&#8243;).  I&#8217;m a firm believer that our lives can be extended indefinitely, given enough brain-power behind the effort.</p>
<p>Curious, have you read Breakthrough, the newest book by Suzanne Somers?  At 47, I supplement with several hormones (since age 41), including hGH and testosterone, and believe strong in the benefits of doing so.  Have you considered HRT, or perhaps you already do?</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words.  I&#8217;m impressed that someone is actually digging through the archives.</p>
<p><em>My wife does HRT because she is perimenopausal and her saliva tests show she needs the replacement.  My last saliva test (about 6 months ago) indicated that my levels were where they should be.  If they do start to fall - which I&#8217;m certain they will at some point - I will strongly consider it.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Former Vegetarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former Vegetarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Eades: Very late comment, but I hope that you'll see it. The study you reported on raised glutathione levels and lowered oxidative stress. As you may know, oxidative (or nitrosative) stress is now thought to underlie chronic fatigue syndrome, as set out by Martin Pall. I'm a longtime sufferer of CFS, and have recently switched from a low-fat vegetarian diet to Paleo eating (and it seems that I already feel somewhat better after 2 weeks of it). My own lab work shows low levels of glutathione, much of it oxidized, also methylation defects.

My specific question is this: is a low carb approach - lower than Paleo - the way to go? Are my low levels of glutathione due to lack of dietary protein and/or oxidative stress brought on by it?

Thanks for your blog. I was a staunch opponent of everything you stand for until very recently, but I've become a convert, mainly thanks to Cordain's Paleo book, which convinced me that that it what we're designed to eat.

&lt;em&gt;I guess the short answer is that I'm not sure.  You could try a lower carb diet for a while to see what happens.  If your symptoms improve even more, then you've got your answer.

I'm not so sure I would rely on a lab test for glutathione, because the glutathione that counts is that found within the mitochondria, which is difficult, if not impossible, to test for.  Either that or someone has devised a test that I don't know about.

Best--

MRE
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Eades: Very late comment, but I hope that you&#8217;ll see it. The study you reported on raised glutathione levels and lowered oxidative stress. As you may know, oxidative (or nitrosative) stress is now thought to underlie chronic fatigue syndrome, as set out by Martin Pall. I&#8217;m a longtime sufferer of CFS, and have recently switched from a low-fat vegetarian diet to Paleo eating (and it seems that I already feel somewhat better after 2 weeks of it). My own lab work shows low levels of glutathione, much of it oxidized, also methylation defects.</p>
<p>My specific question is this: is a low carb approach - lower than Paleo - the way to go? Are my low levels of glutathione due to lack of dietary protein and/or oxidative stress brought on by it?</p>
<p>Thanks for your blog. I was a staunch opponent of everything you stand for until very recently, but I&#8217;ve become a convert, mainly thanks to Cordain&#8217;s Paleo book, which convinced me that that it what we&#8217;re designed to eat.</p>
<p><em>I guess the short answer is that I&#8217;m not sure.  You could try a lower carb diet for a while to see what happens.  If your symptoms improve even more, then you&#8217;ve got your answer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure I would rely on a lab test for glutathione, because the glutathione that counts is that found within the mitochondria, which is difficult, if not impossible, to test for.  Either that or someone has devised a test that I don&#8217;t know about.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE<br />
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		<title>By: Megan Bagwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan Bagwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Long ago the assumption was made that taking antioxidants in the form of supplements should squelch the free radicals generated within the mitochondria and result in a prolongation of life. Problem is that it doesn’t work, apparently because antioxidants taken orally don’t penetrate into the mitochondria where the free radicals are. A zillion studies have shown that taking antioxidants doesn’t increase lifespan".

So, would you say that consuming those expensive acai berry drinks doesn't do any good?  Is there much benefit?  The main reason I would buy them was for the antioxidants.  Is it worth the carbs?

&lt;em&gt;I don't know if it's worth the carbs or not.  Antioxidant supplements don't seem to penetrate the mitochondria and do much good, but foods, on the other hand, do.  Know one knows why.  Maybe there are substances in foods we haven't discovered yet or maybe the form of the antioxidants in foods works better.  Who knows?  But this is the reason I like to get most of my antioxidants in good whole-food form.  I still do take them orally, but just as insurance, I guess.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Long ago the assumption was made that taking antioxidants in the form of supplements should squelch the free radicals generated within the mitochondria and result in a prolongation of life. Problem is that it doesn’t work, apparently because antioxidants taken orally don’t penetrate into the mitochondria where the free radicals are. A zillion studies have shown that taking antioxidants doesn’t increase lifespan&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, would you say that consuming those expensive acai berry drinks doesn&#8217;t do any good?  Is there much benefit?  The main reason I would buy them was for the antioxidants.  Is it worth the carbs?</p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s worth the carbs or not.  Antioxidant supplements don&#8217;t seem to penetrate the mitochondria and do much good, but foods, on the other hand, do.  Know one knows why.  Maybe there are substances in foods we haven&#8217;t discovered yet or maybe the form of the antioxidants in foods works better.  Who knows?  But this is the reason I like to get most of my antioxidants in good whole-food form.  I still do take them orally, but just as insurance, I guess.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dr. Eades, and all,

I'm Dr. de Grey's research assistant, Michael, who cowrote &lt;i&gt;Ending Aging&lt;/i&gt;; one of your readers passed the link to this post on to Dr. de Grey, and I thought I'd take a moment to say that I'm pleased and flattered that you found the book so useful, and address this particular matter.

I don't actually see the two studies as contradictory. One of the central points of the AGE chapter is that AGE chemistry is extremely complex and multifarious, so that while one might expect that lowering at least some markers of oxidative stress (as shown in the &lt;i&gt;Rejuvenation Research&lt;/i&gt; paper) might well be expected to reduce the formation of AGE, there is no guarantee that AGE of other metabolic origin (such as the methylglyoxal in the &lt;i&gt;Annals&lt;/i&gt; paper) may yet be unaffected or even increase. You might recall another pair of papers summarized in the book (Diabetes 54(2):517-26; Int J Vitam Nutr Res 73(6):453-6):

 &lt;i&gt; Diabetic rodents were given diets fortified with different antioxidant  supplements (vitamins or green tea extracts), and the impact on the animals’ AGE burden was assessed ...

Antioxidant supplements had no effect on the levels of those AGEs whose formation doesn’t require free radicals, of course – but the intervention actually increased levels of the two glycoxidation-derived AGEs , so that diabetic animals receiving green tea extracts actually wound up with more total crosslinking than those who simply suffered the “natural” course of the disease.&lt;/i&gt; 

Also, while the degree of editorial rigor imposed in &lt;i&gt;Annals&lt;/i&gt; papers varies and (I agree) can sometimes be quite cursory, it can also in some cases be rigorous; it really depends on the editor(s) of the volume and the hosting organization. One thing that gives me confience about the &lt;i&gt;Annals&lt;/i&gt; paper is the principal investigator, Paul Beisswenger, who has a great deal of experience in evaluating the &lt;i&gt;in vivo&lt;/i&gt; effects of methylglyoxal on the organism and of interventions on MG levels. See  
Diabetes 54(11):3274-81; Biochem Soc Trans 31(Pt 6):1358-63; Diabetes Care 28(10):2465-71;  BBA 1637(1):98-106;  Diabetes Care 24(4):726-32; 
Diabetes 48(1):198-202.

Overall, I think that the &lt;i&gt;Annals&lt;/i&gt; report merits being taken quite seriously -- though I certainly wouldn't suggest leaping to the other extreme of an Ornish-esque, ultra-high-carb diet. As we indicated in the book this is all very difficult to sort out, and trying to outguess the horrific complexity of metabolism is a mug's game. At the end of the day, we're all going to need biotechnological solutions if we're to escape the terrible age-related slide into disease, disability, dependence, dementia, and death. The good news that forms the core of the book is that such tech is foreseeable, and can be developed with sufficient investment of intellectual and financial capital.

Live long -- live young!

&lt;em&gt;Hi Michael--

It is a pleasure to hear from you.  I want to tell you that I think you did a bang up job writing the book.  You made extremely complex subjects both easy to understand and enjoyable to read about, which is difficult to do.  I'm a real fan of the book and your work.  In fact, schedule permitting, I would love to attend the SENS4 conference, which I assume will be in September 2009.

My argument with the methylglyoxal paper in terms of how it was presented in your book is as follows: Lowering triglycerides is a good thing in terms of AGE production.  Lowering blood sugar is a wonderful thing in terms of AGE production.  Both of these changes occur without exception when people go on low-carbohydrate diets.  Perhaps these low-carbohydrate diets do produce a little more methylglyoxal (which idea I haven't totally accepted, but let's say it does happen just for argument's sake), but at what concentrations?  And do the consequent AGEs increase in amounts that exceed the lowering brought about by the low-carb diet?  I don't think so.  If, indeed, there is an increase of methylglyoxal along with an attendant increase in AGEs I would view it as two steps forward and one step back.  If we avoid a low-carb diet in an effort to reduce production of methylglyoxal, then I would say we would be taking one step forward and two steps back.

I do agree that trying to sort out all the intricacies of metabolism is kind of a mug's game, but I believe we have to at least give it a whirl.  I can tell you that I have treated somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 patients with low-carb diets and have found a reduction in triglycerides and blood sugar (not to mention an increase in HDL-C) in virtually all of them.  And they lost weight.  And they improved their health - at least by all the ways we docs measure it.

Thanks again for writing.  I look forward to meeting in the future.

Best--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Eades, and all,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Dr. de Grey&#8217;s research assistant, Michael, who cowrote <i>Ending Aging</i>; one of your readers passed the link to this post on to Dr. de Grey, and I thought I&#8217;d take a moment to say that I&#8217;m pleased and flattered that you found the book so useful, and address this particular matter.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t actually see the two studies as contradictory. One of the central points of the AGE chapter is that AGE chemistry is extremely complex and multifarious, so that while one might expect that lowering at least some markers of oxidative stress (as shown in the <i>Rejuvenation Research</i> paper) might well be expected to reduce the formation of AGE, there is no guarantee that AGE of other metabolic origin (such as the methylglyoxal in the <i>Annals</i> paper) may yet be unaffected or even increase. You might recall another pair of papers summarized in the book (Diabetes 54(2):517-26; Int J Vitam Nutr Res 73(6):453-6):</p>
<p> <i> Diabetic rodents were given diets fortified with different antioxidant  supplements (vitamins or green tea extracts), and the impact on the animals’ AGE burden was assessed &#8230;</p>
<p>Antioxidant supplements had no effect on the levels of those AGEs whose formation doesn’t require free radicals, of course – but the intervention actually increased levels of the two glycoxidation-derived AGEs , so that diabetic animals receiving green tea extracts actually wound up with more total crosslinking than those who simply suffered the “natural” course of the disease.</i> </p>
<p>Also, while the degree of editorial rigor imposed in <i>Annals</i> papers varies and (I agree) can sometimes be quite cursory, it can also in some cases be rigorous; it really depends on the editor(s) of the volume and the hosting organization. One thing that gives me confience about the <i>Annals</i> paper is the principal investigator, Paul Beisswenger, who has a great deal of experience in evaluating the <i>in vivo</i> effects of methylglyoxal on the organism and of interventions on MG levels. See<br />
Diabetes 54(11):3274-81; Biochem Soc Trans 31(Pt 6):1358-63; Diabetes Care 28(10):2465-71;  BBA 1637(1):98-106;  Diabetes Care 24(4):726-32;<br />
Diabetes 48(1):198-202.</p>
<p>Overall, I think that the <i>Annals</i> report merits being taken quite seriously &#8212; though I certainly wouldn&#8217;t suggest leaping to the other extreme of an Ornish-esque, ultra-high-carb diet. As we indicated in the book this is all very difficult to sort out, and trying to outguess the horrific complexity of metabolism is a mug&#8217;s game. At the end of the day, we&#8217;re all going to need biotechnological solutions if we&#8217;re to escape the terrible age-related slide into disease, disability, dependence, dementia, and death. The good news that forms the core of the book is that such tech is foreseeable, and can be developed with sufficient investment of intellectual and financial capital.</p>
<p>Live long &#8212; live young!</p>
<p><em>Hi Michael&#8211;</p>
<p>It is a pleasure to hear from you.  I want to tell you that I think you did a bang up job writing the book.  You made extremely complex subjects both easy to understand and enjoyable to read about, which is difficult to do.  I&#8217;m a real fan of the book and your work.  In fact, schedule permitting, I would love to attend the SENS4 conference, which I assume will be in September 2009.</p>
<p>My argument with the methylglyoxal paper in terms of how it was presented in your book is as follows: Lowering triglycerides is a good thing in terms of AGE production.  Lowering blood sugar is a wonderful thing in terms of AGE production.  Both of these changes occur without exception when people go on low-carbohydrate diets.  Perhaps these low-carbohydrate diets do produce a little more methylglyoxal (which idea I haven&#8217;t totally accepted, but let&#8217;s say it does happen just for argument&#8217;s sake), but at what concentrations?  And do the consequent AGEs increase in amounts that exceed the lowering brought about by the low-carb diet?  I don&#8217;t think so.  If, indeed, there is an increase of methylglyoxal along with an attendant increase in AGEs I would view it as two steps forward and one step back.  If we avoid a low-carb diet in an effort to reduce production of methylglyoxal, then I would say we would be taking one step forward and two steps back.</p>
<p>I do agree that trying to sort out all the intricacies of metabolism is kind of a mug&#8217;s game, but I believe we have to at least give it a whirl.  I can tell you that I have treated somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 patients with low-carb diets and have found a reduction in triglycerides and blood sugar (not to mention an increase in HDL-C) in virtually all of them.  And they lost weight.  And they improved their health - at least by all the ways we docs measure it.</p>
<p>Thanks again for writing.  I look forward to meeting in the future.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: gdebussy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gdebussy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know of a situation where large proteins can get into the system:  leaky gut syndrome.  PPLP talks about this in Chapter 6:  The Leaky Gut: Diet and the Autoimmune Response.  If people have a hard time breaking down dietary proteins, for whatever reason, and they have inflamed bowels, proteins and anything else that is in the bowel, can leak into the system.

&lt;em&gt;I agree.  But in Leaky Gut Syndrome, partial protein breakdown products make it across the barrier, not large intact protein structures.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know of a situation where large proteins can get into the system:  leaky gut syndrome.  PPLP talks about this in Chapter 6:  The Leaky Gut: Diet and the Autoimmune Response.  If people have a hard time breaking down dietary proteins, for whatever reason, and they have inflamed bowels, proteins and anything else that is in the bowel, can leak into the system.</p>
<p><em>I agree.  But in Leaky Gut Syndrome, partial protein breakdown products make it across the barrier, not large intact protein structures.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dallee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. Mike,

My question is a bit off-topic, but does relate to aging and brain health. This article, which includes citations, reports an increase of brain lesions accompany higher levels of Vitamin D and calcium supplementation: http://bacteriality.com/2007/10/24/brain_lesions/

Some of the confounding variables are that a major source of the increased supplementation was milk (presumably supplemented by D-2) and the higher concentrations of Chlamydia pneumoniae and Mycoplasma pneumoniae, labeled as "L form bacteria" and leading to the hypothesis that the Vitamin D supplementation may have been immunosuppressive.

Any light you can shed on this subject would be much appreciated!

&lt;em&gt;I homed in on the following sentence in the article:



&lt;blockquote&gt;The team found that vitamin D intake, (mean 341 IU and maximum intake 1014 IU), was the only variable that retained a significant correlation with the brain lesions when analyzed by a multivariate analysis.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


This means that vitamin D intake was the only variable out of all the variables the researchers chose to analyze.  There are literally an almost infinite number of variables that could cause the findings, and the researchers chose to analyze only a handful.  And out of that handful, they fingered vitamin D as the culprit.

I would have to see many, many more studies evaluating a lot more variables replicating this finding before I will believe it.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Mike,</p>
<p>My question is a bit off-topic, but does relate to aging and brain health. This article, which includes citations, reports an increase of brain lesions accompany higher levels of Vitamin D and calcium supplementation: <a href="http://bacteriality.com/2007/10/24/brain_lesions/" rel="nofollow">http://bacteriality.com/2007/10/24/brain_lesions/</a></p>
<p>Some of the confounding variables are that a major source of the increased supplementation was milk (presumably supplemented by D-2) and the higher concentrations of Chlamydia pneumoniae and Mycoplasma pneumoniae, labeled as &#8220;L form bacteria&#8221; and leading to the hypothesis that the Vitamin D supplementation may have been immunosuppressive.</p>
<p>Any light you can shed on this subject would be much appreciated!</p>
<p><em>I homed in on the following sentence in the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>The team found that vitamin D intake, (mean 341 IU and maximum intake 1014 IU), was the only variable that retained a significant correlation with the brain lesions when analyzed by a multivariate analysis.
</p></blockquote>
<p>This means that vitamin D intake was the only variable out of all the variables the researchers chose to analyze.  There are literally an almost infinite number of variables that could cause the findings, and the researchers chose to analyze only a handful.  And out of that handful, they fingered vitamin D as the culprit.</p>
<p>I would have to see many, many more studies evaluating a lot more variables replicating this finding before I will believe it.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think an engineering approach can shed some useful light on a subject, I'm always cautious when applying engineering solutions to biological problems. IMHO, that's what leads to 'factory farm' style cattle raising and processing, extensive mono-cropping using lots of artificial fertilizers and pesticides, and one-size-fits-all medicine such as the mass prescription of statin drugs. 

Variety and diversity, which seem to be so key to biological systems, are the bane of efficiency and engineering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think an engineering approach can shed some useful light on a subject, I&#8217;m always cautious when applying engineering solutions to biological problems. IMHO, that&#8217;s what leads to &#8216;factory farm&#8217; style cattle raising and processing, extensive mono-cropping using lots of artificial fertilizers and pesticides, and one-size-fits-all medicine such as the mass prescription of statin drugs. </p>
<p>Variety and diversity, which seem to be so key to biological systems, are the bane of efficiency and engineering.</p>
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		<title>By: David Elliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Elliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Eades,

You wrote,
" the work couldn’t pass the peer-review process."

I found on their website, confusing information.
http://www.annalsnyas.org/misc/about.shtml

At the top of the page they say-
"Each Annals volume contains edited, [b]reviewed[/b] papers based on presentations made at symposia, conferences, and workshops held around the world. "

I noticed  that they did not say "peer-reviewed" in this overall description of what the annals are. 

However, down at the bottom, they say
"If the topic of the meeting and the proposal materials are deemed appropriate for possible publication in the Annals, the proposal will be sent out for peer review. "

So are they "Peer Reviewed" in the full meaning of "Peer Review"

&lt;em&gt;I think this is kind of hogwash.  I've been to a number of these meetings put on by the NY Acad, and I can tell you that every talk from every meeting gets published.  I don't know what the peer-review process consists of (if it really even exists), but pretty much everything makes it through.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Eades,</p>
<p>You wrote,<br />
&#8221; the work couldn’t pass the peer-review process.&#8221;</p>
<p>I found on their website, confusing information.<br />
<a href="http://www.annalsnyas.org/misc/about.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.annalsnyas.org/misc/about.shtml</a></p>
<p>At the top of the page they say-<br />
&#8220;Each Annals volume contains edited, [b]reviewed[/b] papers based on presentations made at symposia, conferences, and workshops held around the world. &#8221;</p>
<p>I noticed  that they did not say &#8220;peer-reviewed&#8221; in this overall description of what the annals are. </p>
<p>However, down at the bottom, they say<br />
&#8220;If the topic of the meeting and the proposal materials are deemed appropriate for possible publication in the Annals, the proposal will be sent out for peer review. &#8221;</p>
<p>So are they &#8220;Peer Reviewed&#8221; in the full meaning of &#8220;Peer Review&#8221;</p>
<p><em>I think this is kind of hogwash.  I&#8217;ve been to a number of these meetings put on by the NY Acad, and I can tell you that every talk from every meeting gets published.  I don&#8217;t know what the peer-review process consists of (if it really even exists), but pretty much everything makes it through.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Walter Norris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought you and Razwell might find this article interesting.  Let me know what you think.

Evidence of Anti-Aging Power of Exercise (Telomeres &#38; Special Role of Strength Training) 

http://cbass.com/Strengthtrainingand%20telomeres.htm

&lt;em&gt;Very interesting article.  It makes sense, though, since moderate exercise does indeed seem to induce a longer life.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought you and Razwell might find this article interesting.  Let me know what you think.</p>
<p>Evidence of Anti-Aging Power of Exercise (Telomeres &amp; Special Role of Strength Training) </p>
<p><a href="http://cbass.com/Strengthtrainingand%20telomeres.htm" rel="nofollow">http://cbass.com/Strengthtrainingand%20telomeres.htm</a></p>
<p><em>Very interesting article.  It makes sense, though, since moderate exercise does indeed seem to induce a longer life.</em></p>
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