Precisely.

If you know something but do not provide the knowledge for your readers(cite source) than you are doing a disservice for any readers that actually care about the truth, and I hope I am not the minority here by really wanting to know truth, outside of delusion. Its not just about bad diet advice to me, but to everyone who reads the article.

Two years ago I let Jack LaLanne’s own video speak for him. If you haven’t watched it, perhaps you should.

I didn’t say I couldn’t provide the documentation; I said I wouldn’t. There is a difference. The post you’re commenting on was written two years ago. Had you asked these questions then, I would have had all my Jack LaLanne materials at the ready, but I’m not going to go dig them all out now.

If you’re tired of bad diet advice I would suggest you spend your time on another site, since this one obviously doesn’t meet your needs.

You’re obviously a lot more interested in this than I am, so why don’t you spend the time tracking down his diet as a function of his age.

He’s written a lot of stuff and has a number of videos on youtube. I remember reading his liking for steak in some of his earlier writings. I don’t have any at hand, so I can’t give you the references.

Here is a sample meal from Jack from his old TV shows program http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuW3RfWJ1H0

Now compare it to todays breakfast for Jack, is a power drink with 50 grams of soy protein and soy milk, plus a whole-grain cereal, and between 40 and 50 nutritional supplements(enzymes, herbs, etc.). Lunch consists of four egg whites, five servings of fresh fruit, and five raw vegetables. He also eats fish. Jack LaLanne says he gets his nutrition from fruits and raw vegetables every day. His wife and him eat out practically every night, and he has got every restaurant trained. The Chinese restaurants they go to have brown rice, and other restaurants make sure they have the right soups for them, with no butter or cream. Jack was was a strict vegetarian for 6 years. Then he decided to enter a Mr. America contest (which he won) and in those days they thought that in order to build muscle you had to have meat. So he ate meat for a while. In an interview he says he eats only two meals a day — at 11 o’clock and at 7 o’clock. For lunch he has at least six raw fruits, and always four egg whites. Just the whites. He says he throw the rest away. That’s all the fat. Give that to the dog he says. His motto: If man makes it, don’t eat it; if it tastes good, spit it out.
I don’t know know everything that he has eaten through the years, decades. But all of the evidence suggests that Jack was on and recommended a low fat diet. Not opposed to Ancel Keys at all. Looking at his old shows and more recent interviews, most of his life he has practiced low fat(with overt fats like avocado dip). Ancel Keys suggested replacing saturated fats with unsaturated fats, not low protein or something. Jack Lalanne’s diet is fine with Ancel Keys claims. Note: For those who tend to think in dietribe paradigms, I don’t necessarily hold the views of Jack Lalanne, or Ancel Keys.

Anyways, being that this website supports low carb I find it stupid that you use Jack as a example of good health because Jack has not only recommended a high protein diet(soy, fish, egg whites) but he also recommends a significant amount of carbs like fruit juice, beets in vegetable juice, fresh fruits, grains, and honey. His recommendation of 6 pieces of fresh fruit, plus some whole grains everyday is not low carb. Jack also claims exercise as number one for health, which Ancel Keys apperantly lacked incredibly, judging by his picture.

In a recent interview with shareguide, he was asked “What do you think about the current low-carb craze?”

This is what he says.. “It’s a bunch of bull! If God, or nature, or whatever you want to call it didn’t want you to mix carbohydrates, starches and fats, you’d never have a grain, you’d never have a vegetable or a fruit, would you? What’s in a grain? It’s got carbohydrates, starches, fats, sugar. It’s got everything in it. Why does nature do that? One guy says don’t mix carbohydrates, and the other guy says don’t mix protein with it; it’s all a bunch of lard, something to sell a book. And the poor public is so confused, they don’t know what to do. That’s why I give my lectures.”

Furthermore this article is using selective citation. Of course scientific literature has to be taken as whole, but if you are going to use selective anecdotel evidence, I also have some that will contradict many of your claims. Here is women who has been a vegetarian her whole life, she is one hundred years old (5 years older than Jack Lalanne), AND she walks to her birthday party from home in apperantly good health(despite some minor hearing issues)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr19gqQhJhQ&feature=related

This is just creative writing in disguise. I suggest people learn what the scientific method is and how anecdotel and scientific literature, pretty much all literature, is distorted and hijacked. Ancel Keys was wrong because he did not show all the evidence. All of the low carb arguments I have come across are using the same trickery that they critisize others for using by witholding information or using distorted information.

I suggest you learn a little more about the scientific method yourself beforing being so quick to point the finger at others. And maybe you should spend a little time with some of LaLanne’s older writings before displaying your ignorance so prominently.

Bass has been lifting weights for all of his life and is known for having a fat percentage below 3 (!). Bass eats little meat and lots of ‘good carbs’. Devany lives the evolutionary fitness way, one of the low carb varieties.

I think Clarence really looks old, despite his impressive musculature. Athur looks 15 to 20 years younger than Clarence.

So I think weight is just one aspect of health. I assume the good carbs kept Bass out of ketosis, and thus let him age like everybody else. Devany has been low carbing for 25 years (after his wife got diabetes) and clearly shows that ageing can be slowed down.

Still, I respect them both – as I do Dr Eades – for their vast knowledge.

Anybody agrees?

Thanks. MD and I will be out promoting our new book later this year and might end up in a bookstore near you. If so, drop by and say Hi.

BUT, I just had to post this in response to showing Jack Lalanne as some kind of rebuttal to Ancel Keys and his low-fat advice — When you posted this, apparently you did not know that Jack Lalanne is mostly vegetarian, eats NO dairy, and recommends low-fat. In this interview, he states that he once mistakenly believed that protein was vitally important for the muscle. He also believes fat is not good and should be very limited. He is very adamant that plenty of carbs are the food of choice — just as long as they aren’t filled with sugar. That’s it — the sugar admonition seems to be the only part of his advice that is anything like a LC diet of any type. In fact, in one response, he calls low-carb diets, “bull”.

Here’s the link: http://www.shareguide.com/LaLanne.html
There are two parts. The second part you have to click on at the bottom of the first part of the interview. The second part is where he calls the LC “bull” and tells how we should eat plenty of carbs. Just thought you should know that if he’s anyone’s poster boy, it would be for those who believe in “low-fat & no red meat” diets.

He’s three years older now than when he did that interview, so maybe he’s changed his mind again.

I had to comment because I no longer see the blubber I noticed before. I’ve been following a low-carb diet since I found your book (Protein Power) by the pool on vacation last June; almost a year now. The changes I’ve noticed in my body are significant and it thrills me. My mom even remarked on my arms a few days ago, how they’re more defined (she says it’s from picking up my children, but I’m 7 months pregnant now, I haven’t been picking them up much for months now; I know she knows it’s from my way of eating but she doesn’t say it.) I’m just much more toned all over and get compliments I never got while being pregnant with my other 2. Last Sunday at church one woman exclaimed how great and in shape I look and that she wished she could look that good NOT PREGNANT. In my grateful response I added at the end that I haven’t been eating sugar and starches much at all this pregnancy and I sort of got a blank look back. (I guess she was expecting to hear I work out? I don’t know. The only sort of exercise I do this pregnancy is taking walks a few times a week, at most.) Anyways, I’m extremely thankful for your work and thankful that God led me to your book by the pool that day; I’ve learned so much this year. From how to look at studies with a critical eye to making sure I get my Vitamin D daily, to eating enough protein and so on. I’m also very grateful I have these new habits to pass on to my children who, by the way, were so healthy this winter; I do not think it was a coincidence. I just wanted you to know your and MD’s work has been a blessing to me!

Thank you for the very nice compliment. I’m thrilled to learn that you’re doing so well. Keep it up.