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	<title>Comments on: At last a cake we can all dig into</title>
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		<title>By: Megan Bagwell</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-diets/at-last-a-cake-we-can-all-dig-into/#comment-167816</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan Bagwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but the thought of eating that makes me want to gag.  I&#039;ll take a day of IFing after binging on the real thing, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but the thought of eating that makes me want to gag.  I&#8217;ll take a day of IFing after binging on the real thing, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: ItsTheWooo</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-diets/at-last-a-cake-we-can-all-dig-into/#comment-167636</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsTheWooo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the disgust factor comes from the cake being something it is not. It forces your brain to visually combine two things that shouldn&#039;t be combined: pastry and meat. Most people find  the idea of eating a slice of meat with cake disgusting. This forces you to overlap those images in your mind, thus it is disgusting.

It would be like if it were shaped like dog feces, but &quot;relax, it&#039;s just meat&quot;. Uh, no thanks.

If the cake didn&#039;t look so &quot;sweet&quot; with candy-looking flowers and all, it would be far less disgusting. If it were decorated with ham slices and olives and things like that, it would be totally different. I am a die hard low carber and carnivore and I agree the cake is repulsive to me.

In a store I once saw a candy hamburger made of marshmellow and other things. That too was very disgusting, as my brain imagined the empty lead-headed sugar-gorging sweetness of halloween from childhood, because the &quot;food&quot; forced me to imagine eating candy in the way one should eat a hearty healthy meal like a hamburger.
(Although the hamburger marshmellow was less disgusting than the meat cake, because the hamburger marshmellow looked fake so I wasn&#039;t forced to imagine eating candy and meat together. On the other hand, the meat cake looks so real, my brain is envisioning ice cream and strawberries and whipped frosting... then to combine that image with meat loaf is just nasty).

Besides, I think the human brain is automatically wired to reject anything remotely disgusting &amp; meat related, too; people are much more sensitive to disgusting meat things than disgusting non-meat things, evolutionary reasons for that are obvious (meat, if slightly off, can be rapidly fatal). If we view cake + meat is disgusting, then it is absolutely disgusting by this rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the disgust factor comes from the cake being something it is not. It forces your brain to visually combine two things that shouldn&#8217;t be combined: pastry and meat. Most people find  the idea of eating a slice of meat with cake disgusting. This forces you to overlap those images in your mind, thus it is disgusting.</p>
<p>It would be like if it were shaped like dog feces, but &#8220;relax, it&#8217;s just meat&#8221;. Uh, no thanks.</p>
<p>If the cake didn&#8217;t look so &#8220;sweet&#8221; with candy-looking flowers and all, it would be far less disgusting. If it were decorated with ham slices and olives and things like that, it would be totally different. I am a die hard low carber and carnivore and I agree the cake is repulsive to me.</p>
<p>In a store I once saw a candy hamburger made of marshmellow and other things. That too was very disgusting, as my brain imagined the empty lead-headed sugar-gorging sweetness of halloween from childhood, because the &#8220;food&#8221; forced me to imagine eating candy in the way one should eat a hearty healthy meal like a hamburger.<br />
(Although the hamburger marshmellow was less disgusting than the meat cake, because the hamburger marshmellow looked fake so I wasn&#8217;t forced to imagine eating candy and meat together. On the other hand, the meat cake looks so real, my brain is envisioning ice cream and strawberries and whipped frosting&#8230; then to combine that image with meat loaf is just nasty).</p>
<p>Besides, I think the human brain is automatically wired to reject anything remotely disgusting &amp; meat related, too; people are much more sensitive to disgusting meat things than disgusting non-meat things, evolutionary reasons for that are obvious (meat, if slightly off, can be rapidly fatal). If we view cake + meat is disgusting, then it is absolutely disgusting by this rule.</p>
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		<title>By: David LaCivita</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-diets/at-last-a-cake-we-can-all-dig-into/#comment-166084</link>
		<dc:creator>David LaCivita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say let them have their cake and eat it too!  I am happy with out it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say let them have their cake and eat it too!  I am happy with out it.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a headline from our local newspaper&#039;s business section - &quot;Study: Statins don&#039;t boost cancer risk.&quot;  According to researchers at Tufts Medical Center, although low LDL does correlate with a higher cancer risk, it appears that statins do not increase that risk.  In this study,  there were 12.7 cancers for each 1,000 patients given statins and 12.6 per 1,000 in the group not given the drugs.  (The full study can be found in the Journal of the Am. College of  Cardiology.)

How long is it going to take for the medical community to recognize that low LDL is dangerous? Of course, that challenges their notions about the lipid hypothesis,  doesn&#039;t it?  Sort of sounds like more cognitive dissonance......

&lt;em&gt;Sounds like a lot of cognitive dissonance.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a headline from our local newspaper&#8217;s business section &#8211; &#8220;Study: Statins don&#8217;t boost cancer risk.&#8221;  According to researchers at Tufts Medical Center, although low LDL does correlate with a higher cancer risk, it appears that statins do not increase that risk.  In this study,  there were 12.7 cancers for each 1,000 patients given statins and 12.6 per 1,000 in the group not given the drugs.  (The full study can be found in the Journal of the Am. College of  Cardiology.)</p>
<p>How long is it going to take for the medical community to recognize that low LDL is dangerous? Of course, that challenges their notions about the lipid hypothesis,  doesn&#8217;t it?  Sort of sounds like more cognitive dissonance&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Sounds like a lot of cognitive dissonance.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Zedgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zedgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Blumer is a chef that specializes in these ‘not what they seem’ types of recipes. I saw him on TV making lamb cupcakes so I looked him up on the web. Check out the pictures of ‘duck parfait’, ‘meatloaf surprise’ and ‘cheese cake’. The bacon and eggs consists of vanilla ice cream, an apricot half, raspberry sauce and white and dark chocolate.
I think you have to buy his book to get the recipes though……..
http://www.bobblumer.com/sgdishes.html

&lt;em&gt;Interesting.  Thanks for the link.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Blumer is a chef that specializes in these ‘not what they seem’ types of recipes. I saw him on TV making lamb cupcakes so I looked him up on the web. Check out the pictures of ‘duck parfait’, ‘meatloaf surprise’ and ‘cheese cake’. The bacon and eggs consists of vanilla ice cream, an apricot half, raspberry sauce and white and dark chocolate.<br />
I think you have to buy his book to get the recipes though……..<br />
<a href="http://www.bobblumer.com/sgdishes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bobblumer.com/sgdishes.html</a></p>
<p><em>Interesting.  Thanks for the link.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, eating a piece of cake will kill you. Nobody who eats real cake could possibly ever be healthy. The only way to way to maintain a normal weight is to stuff your face with eggs and bacon every morning... blah, blah blah

&lt;em&gt;Hi Alison--

Welcome to the blog.  I&#039;m glad to see that you truly understand proper nutrition.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, eating a piece of cake will kill you. Nobody who eats real cake could possibly ever be healthy. The only way to way to maintain a normal weight is to stuff your face with eggs and bacon every morning&#8230; blah, blah blah</p>
<p><em>Hi Alison&#8211;</p>
<p>Welcome to the blog.  I&#8217;m glad to see that you truly understand proper nutrition.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Margaret Auld-Louie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret Auld-Louie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, &quot;it&#039;s easy to see why there is an obesity epidemic&quot;. People think it&#039;s normal to eat sugary cake and abnormal to eat one made of meat. Numerous posters stated the same thought as this one: &quot;Sorry, but there is just something so inherently Wrong with this!&quot; Actually, what is wrong is that our whole society thinks it&#039;s totally normal to eat huge amounts of sweets in our diets and that anyone who doesn&#039;t is abnormal and wrong.

One commenter posted this link to spaghetti made with meat. Now, this is something I&#039;d be interested in: http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411319/1985924

&lt;em&gt;I would be interested, too.  Thanks for the link.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, &#8220;it&#8217;s easy to see why there is an obesity epidemic&#8221;. People think it&#8217;s normal to eat sugary cake and abnormal to eat one made of meat. Numerous posters stated the same thought as this one: &#8220;Sorry, but there is just something so inherently Wrong with this!&#8221; Actually, what is wrong is that our whole society thinks it&#8217;s totally normal to eat huge amounts of sweets in our diets and that anyone who doesn&#8217;t is abnormal and wrong.</p>
<p>One commenter posted this link to spaghetti made with meat. Now, this is something I&#8217;d be interested in: <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411319/1985924" rel="nofollow">http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411319/1985924</a></p>
<p><em>I would be interested, too.  Thanks for the link.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Karen J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have made the meat cake that Tresses and mrfreddy linked to. I used mashed cauliflower as frosting (the cauliflower also contained some turnips, garlic, Gruyere, butter, etc). It&#039;s a fun cake to make for dinner. The kids actually love it once they get over the initial disappointment.
It&#039;s a great trick to play on kids. ;)

Another thing I make for the kids are &quot;meatheads&quot;. You can really get creative with meatheads, using olives for eyes, spaghetti squash for hair, red pepper for lips, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made the meat cake that Tresses and mrfreddy linked to. I used mashed cauliflower as frosting (the cauliflower also contained some turnips, garlic, Gruyere, butter, etc). It&#8217;s a fun cake to make for dinner. The kids actually love it once they get over the initial disappointment.<br />
It&#8217;s a great trick to play on kids. <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Another thing I make for the kids are &#8220;meatheads&#8221;. You can really get creative with meatheads, using olives for eyes, spaghetti squash for hair, red pepper for lips, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it comes from living in SoCal too long, but &quot;meatcake&quot; sounds almost obscene. But not as obscene as the comments on that blog, obviously made by many (addicted and obese) Sugar Sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it comes from living in SoCal too long, but &#8220;meatcake&#8221; sounds almost obscene. But not as obscene as the comments on that blog, obviously made by many (addicted and obese) Sugar Sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: Satya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first glance of the cross-sectional slice, I thought it was a meat terrine or pâté.  It was the heavy frosting and decoration that caused major confusion in my mind as to what I was looking at.  I would think it would look more palatable from a savory perspective without so much frosting and colored flowers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first glance of the cross-sectional slice, I thought it was a meat terrine or pâté.  It was the heavy frosting and decoration that caused major confusion in my mind as to what I was looking at.  I would think it would look more palatable from a savory perspective without so much frosting and colored flowers.</p>
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