Attention vegans, meat eaters are also against factory raising of cattle. Meat eaters also want grass-fed cattle which is essential for our development and growth. We don’t like grain fed cattle with higher omega 6 in their fat cause we have to take fish oil supplements to balance it out. So we are against two “evils”. The first “evil” is the clearing of land to raise grain (grass-seeds made up of sugar + antinutrients) which is then pushed to vegans and the cows which meat eaters eat. We beleive nobody but birds should eat grain! Let the land grow with natural wildlife and nature will sort herself out! Let the grass grow and let the cows graze and live out their lives doing what they’re supposed to do. What theyr’e supposed to do, as prey, is to get eaten by carnivores cause that is also what nature herself allows in the wild. The second “evil” which meat/primal eaters are also against is the factory raising of cows on these grains. See how much damage is done to the land? We don’t enjoy seeing cows in pain and suffering in their own shit. In an ideal world we’d take only what we need like the lions who pick off elderly and weak of the pack of prey, the strong with run away and produce more prey. Like in the movie Avatar in which the natives kill only for food and pray for the animal’s forgiveness since it’s part of the natural food chain. If nature’s equilibrium only allowed such an idyllic world while sustaining all 5 (or 6?) billion humans… We are against both “evils”, agriculture and factory cattle raising.

But what’s done is done and it will continue unless we all go up against big corporations which is the true enemy.

Seems to me that vegans are only against the second “evil”, the factory farming of meat. Their response is simply to boycott the meat! Meanwhile they idolize the first “evil”, agriculture, which damages the land and surroundings and feeds everyone grass-seeds and other seeds! This is not the proper response, in my opinion. Does evolution and biology work that fast? Just flip a switch and decide that “ok we’ll run on grass instead of meat”, then distort science to make it work on paper. Come on, are you that arrogant? Humans are nothing special, we’re just another animal (albeit with oversized brains) but still a slave to mother nature, a slave to our evolution and genetics. OBEY! In this case our oversized brains is a liability because we foudn ways to bastardize our surroundings but not smart enough to realize that nature is law, else you suffer! It doesn’t make sense to stop eating meat in the hopes that it’ll topple big corporations, please come on I don’t think so. Instead of this, why don’t all eaters, plants and meat alike, rise up against big corporations to stop force feeding via us tax dollars and attempts of brainwashing the mass public (“what luck, for rulers, that men do not think” – adolf hitler) to eat grains and grain-fed animals?

However, on the side of big governments and big corporations, it’s true that nature cannot sustain 5-7 billion humans naturally. Grass fed cows will be eaten up like crazy leaving none (eg. wooly mammoth, buffalo) hence the need to farm. So people need to die in vast numbers to provide the remaining population with grass-fed meat, pollution-free environment… basically equilibrium with nature. Anyone want to go that route?

You see how screwed if we do, screwed if we don’t? The answer is not human culling. The answer is not boycotting meat either due to the health considerations.

So what is the answer? Shit, I dunno, if I did I’d be ruler of the world by now. What I plan to do? Earn money in a big corporation, use it to buy me and my family fresh vegetables, good quality meat, fish oil supplements. Nature has provided all of us with the instinct to propagate our genes. As said earlier, OBEY! Take care of your family and lead good lives, enjoy it in health. Hopefully if someone does decide to implement the human population culling measure I’m one of those who survive so pray (or not). I haven’t read the book, I plan to, so I’m reading the reviews of it. I hear that “To Save The World” chapter isn’t 100% realistic. See? It’s hard to solve this problem.

You want an ideal world?

1) Propose one that supports many billions of humans (scaleable) then.

2) You think boycotting meat is the answer? You’re arrogant to think you decide what is healthy for you or not. Your own genes will punish you for not eating nutrient rich meat.

3) Eat the best that YOU can (primal eaters) fresh meats, vegetables, some nuts… One compelling example is the reduction is brain size for vegans. Yes, that’s right. Nutrient rich meat and a simple digestive system that doesn’t use up most of the energy is derives from the energy-providing food is why we had energy surplus to evolve big brains! Brains take up a lot of energy, no surplus energy = cannot power the brain = downsizing of brain. Our digestive system is short and sweet unlike complicated cows’ digestive system. It also doesn’t use up most of the energy that it provides to the body through processing the food as a whole leaving little excess. This means our digestive system is SIMPLE. Means it doesn’t do anything complicated like converting plant matter (short chain fatty acids) into animal matter (long chain fatty acids) like a gorilla can. No conversion capabiltiies means that we need to eat what we are. Our digestive system only absorbs, nothing more complicated than that, ok? And what ARE we? 70% water (most essential thing right? two days w/out water = death. we can go 28 days without food…). We are made up of animal protein in our skin, muscles, sinews, organs. Our cell walls are made of saturated fat. This is just what we’re built on. What do we run on? Cholesterol essential for brain synapse activity from animal fats for example. Green leafy plants and fruits for minerals, vitamins which are used for chemical reactions and precursors to hormones an dother important processes. Green leafy plants and fruits also for antioxidants to help clean up free radicals which are byproducts of normal bodily functions. This is what we all should eat.

Also, vegans, don’t come into the comments section of a review of a anti-vegetarian book. You’re just looking for a fight. Just relax. You shouldn’t be stressing, you already have a sub-par diet.

And another thing that irks me about vegetarians… don’t blame meat eaters for the existence of factory farming. We’re just trying to do the best for ourselves and our family in this screwed up world. Or else I will start vegetarian-bashing and blaming vegetarians for the Agricultural Revolution! The agricultural revolution is the biggest mistake in human history! Giving us grass-seeds to eat, small group of people making a huge profit from it and then having the audacity to brainwash people “it’s gooooood for youuuuu” bull. The first grain fields of Agricultural Revolution is why we were able to sustain a larger population in a set area, then the population got bigger and bigger and more and more grain fields were put up. Now the population is so huge we can’t go back! We’re stuck having to eat grains and crappy meat while destroying the environment unless we kill off more than one out of two people (or something like that I just made up the figures)! You grain-promoting vegetarians want to be blamed for the entire Agricultural Revolution!?

Again, in the spirit of working together even if we completely disagree on diet, what if we 1) topple big corporations, 2) only allow free-range, grass-fed meat while treating animals very well 3) pray over every animal killed for food to placate the vegan crowd.

Due to the annoying antics of the zealot vegan crowd I would also like to propose 4) everyone must declare oneself a vegan or primal eater, vegans are not allowed to touch meat and primal eaters ar enot allowed to touch grains and grain products, make this into law and enforce strictly. no take backs! see which crowd keels over and dies. Let’s do a long term study right here. I won’t ever eat any grain products (haven’t for months now actually) and you won’t eat any meat ever. Let’s see who gets the health complications in twenty years. Again, no take backs! If you’re dying from wrong dietary choice, you gotta keep dying! Anyone? Haha.

Check it out:

Balam Muņoz and Arnulfo Albores (2011). DNA Damage Caused by Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons: Mechanisms and Markers, Selected Topics in DNA Repair, Clark C. Chen, University of California, San Diego, USA (Ed.), ISBN: 978-953-307-606-5, InTech, Available from: http://www.intechopen.com/articles/show/title/dna-damage-caused-by-polycyclic-aromatic-hydrocarbons-mechanisms-and-markers

So, is this proof enough? It’s taught in college. I’m guessing if they put it in a textbook, then it’s gotta have some weight. Maybe they haven’t shown it in humans, but hey, we have DNA, just like those model animals. So…yeah. Just because there isn’t a study showing humans get it directly doesn’t mean there needs to be one. Isn’t that how most research is done? On animals? Because the assumption is that certain types of data, like how some class of compounds reacts with DNA, can be applied to humans as well?