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		<title>By: John Goldstone</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Goldstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Eades wrote:  Why do so many people support Obama?

I write:  What the h*&amp;^ is that supposed to mean?  That it&#039;s just as irrational, in your book, to support President Obama as it is to believe in the efficacy of a low-fat, high-carb diet?

When you use sloppy, antagonistic rhetoric like that, it undermines your credibility.  Big time, as the Vice President you probably supported used to say.

If Obama isn&#039;t low-carb, does that mean Dick Cheney is? 

If so, I&#039;ll take the carbs, Doc.  And I&#039;d advise you to learn a bit more about politics -- and rhetoric -- to go with your diet theory.

&lt;em&gt;I would advise you to go out and purchase a sense of humor.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Eades wrote:  Why do so many people support Obama?</p>
<p>I write:  What the h*&amp;^ is that supposed to mean?  That it&#8217;s just as irrational, in your book, to support President Obama as it is to believe in the efficacy of a low-fat, high-carb diet?</p>
<p>When you use sloppy, antagonistic rhetoric like that, it undermines your credibility.  Big time, as the Vice President you probably supported used to say.</p>
<p>If Obama isn&#8217;t low-carb, does that mean Dick Cheney is? </p>
<p>If so, I&#8217;ll take the carbs, Doc.  And I&#8217;d advise you to learn a bit more about politics &#8212; and rhetoric &#8212; to go with your diet theory.</p>
<p><em>I would advise you to go out and purchase a sense of humor.</em></p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Eades, 

3 years ago I had bloodwork done and the results weren&#039;t pretty. My doc wanted to immediately start me on Lipitor, but I turned it down in favor of trying LC, which my dad (retired nurse) was doing at the time. I started LC but didn&#039;t stick it out for more than a month. I&#039;ve no doubt my blood is in worse shape now. They&#039;d probably find bacon. 

Question: on average, how long might it take for committed, consistent low carbers to start seeing improvement in their blood workups? (cholesterol, HDL, LDL, and all that) 

BTW, I&#039;m on day 3 of induction, feeling fine, and plan to stick with it. 

Thank you in advance, and LOVE this site!

&lt;em&gt;Glad to hear you love the site.  I usually check blood work at six weeks in my patients, and most have significant improvement by then.  I have checked as early as 11 days after starting the diet and have found major improvement even by then.  I think the changes typically occur pretty early on.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Eades, </p>
<p>3 years ago I had bloodwork done and the results weren&#8217;t pretty. My doc wanted to immediately start me on Lipitor, but I turned it down in favor of trying LC, which my dad (retired nurse) was doing at the time. I started LC but didn&#8217;t stick it out for more than a month. I&#8217;ve no doubt my blood is in worse shape now. They&#8217;d probably find bacon. </p>
<p>Question: on average, how long might it take for committed, consistent low carbers to start seeing improvement in their blood workups? (cholesterol, HDL, LDL, and all that) </p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m on day 3 of induction, feeling fine, and plan to stick with it. </p>
<p>Thank you in advance, and LOVE this site!</p>
<p><em>Glad to hear you love the site.  I usually check blood work at six weeks in my patients, and most have significant improvement by then.  I have checked as early as 11 days after starting the diet and have found major improvement even by then.  I think the changes typically occur pretty early on.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Venkat, I&#039;m not a doctor, but speaking of the WAPF folks, they&#039;re really, really big on cod liver oil.  In fact they recommend it over regular fish oil.  You still get the omega-3s and you also get some fat-soluble vitamins that you might be short on otherwise.  Dr. Weston A. Price used to treat malnourished little kids by giving them a combination of cod liver oil and butter oil (from grass-fed, yellow spring butter) once a day with a meal.

If you Google &quot;uric acid omega-3&quot; you will find conflicting information about the effects of omega-3s on uric acid levels but there are at least some people finding that omega-3 supplementation seems to increase their UA.  I have no idea why but you might start with taking a critical look at your overall dietary fat ratios and reading some Mary Enig.  I haven&#039;t read her book on dietary fats yet and she just might have an answer for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Venkat, I&#8217;m not a doctor, but speaking of the WAPF folks, they&#8217;re really, really big on cod liver oil.  In fact they recommend it over regular fish oil.  You still get the omega-3s and you also get some fat-soluble vitamins that you might be short on otherwise.  Dr. Weston A. Price used to treat malnourished little kids by giving them a combination of cod liver oil and butter oil (from grass-fed, yellow spring butter) once a day with a meal.</p>
<p>If you Google &#8220;uric acid omega-3&#8243; you will find conflicting information about the effects of omega-3s on uric acid levels but there are at least some people finding that omega-3 supplementation seems to increase their UA.  I have no idea why but you might start with taking a critical look at your overall dietary fat ratios and reading some Mary Enig.  I haven&#8217;t read her book on dietary fats yet and she just might have an answer for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, never mind the soy and wheat allergies, that sort of diet is one big antinutrient with all that phytic acid.  *shudder*  I learned about that thanks to the WAPF folks.  Mentioned it to my little girl&#039;s dad and his eyes lit up and he said, &quot;That is an EXCELLENT chelating agent.&quot;  He had fun in high school chemistry, heh.  Anyway.  I just looked up how to make seitan, and here is a representative recipe:

http://vegweb.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=0ce7d1e2f6662ede8cb58576d38c4eda&amp;topic=21474.0

It&#039;s not fermented, and tofu is not fermented, and what is it with these people that they&#039;re such experts on human health and diet but don&#039;t understand how to prepare seed foods traditionally so they do the least amount of harm possible?

I could understand us meat-eating industrial-eating folks who were raised out of cans and boxes not knowing this stuff but... aren&#039;t veg*ns supposed to be, I dunno, more *aware* or something?

I was so furious when I found out about this stuff.  What?  You mean this crap has been *sucking minerals out of my BODY*??  And I keep hearing stuff about diabetes being related to magnesium and chromium deficiency, too.  Go figure, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, never mind the soy and wheat allergies, that sort of diet is one big antinutrient with all that phytic acid.  *shudder*  I learned about that thanks to the WAPF folks.  Mentioned it to my little girl&#8217;s dad and his eyes lit up and he said, &#8220;That is an EXCELLENT chelating agent.&#8221;  He had fun in high school chemistry, heh.  Anyway.  I just looked up how to make seitan, and here is a representative recipe:</p>
<p><a href="http://vegweb.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=0ce7d1e2f6662ede8cb58576d38c4eda&amp;topic=21474.0" rel="nofollow">http://vegweb.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=0ce7d1e2f6662ede8cb58576d38c4eda&amp;topic=21474.0</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not fermented, and tofu is not fermented, and what is it with these people that they&#8217;re such experts on human health and diet but don&#8217;t understand how to prepare seed foods traditionally so they do the least amount of harm possible?</p>
<p>I could understand us meat-eating industrial-eating folks who were raised out of cans and boxes not knowing this stuff but&#8230; aren&#8217;t veg*ns supposed to be, I dunno, more *aware* or something?</p>
<p>I was so furious when I found out about this stuff.  What?  You mean this crap has been *sucking minerals out of my BODY*??  And I keep hearing stuff about diabetes being related to magnesium and chromium deficiency, too.  Go figure, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Arie Brand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arie Brand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doc, a gent who reacted to one of my posts came with the claim that the causal mechanism underlying the link between the consumption of red meat and colon cancer is now fairly well understood. He claimed that heme iron is the main culprit. Its absorption allegedely generates NOC carcinogens.

He also claimed, and this seems incredible to me, that after a person has consumed red meat one can see DNA damage in the colon cells in the feces - similar damage to that seen in cancer sufferers. 

To buttress his case for the link between red meat consumption and cancer he gave the following references:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16991129  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11857415  - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11352852

What do you think of this?

&lt;em&gt;I think they are all observational studies and don&#039;t mean squat in terms of causality.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doc, a gent who reacted to one of my posts came with the claim that the causal mechanism underlying the link between the consumption of red meat and colon cancer is now fairly well understood. He claimed that heme iron is the main culprit. Its absorption allegedely generates NOC carcinogens.</p>
<p>He also claimed, and this seems incredible to me, that after a person has consumed red meat one can see DNA damage in the colon cells in the feces &#8211; similar damage to that seen in cancer sufferers. </p>
<p>To buttress his case for the link between red meat consumption and cancer he gave the following references:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16991129" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16991129</a>  <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11857415" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11857415</a>  &#8211; <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11352852" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11352852</a></p>
<p>What do you think of this?</p>
<p><em>I think they are all observational studies and don&#8217;t mean squat in terms of causality.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Venkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr,

I had mentioned this before. I am on a low carb (40g net carbs per day) diet for the past 13 months. 

This April I went for lab work and the results were good except Uric acid levels. This jumped from 5.5 (Dec 08) to 8.0 now. The only major difference I see is I am taking Omega 3 Fish Oil supplements now.

I remember reading from one of your blog that Uric Acid levels increase when someone starts on Low Carb. Any pointers will be highly helpful.

Thanks

Venkat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr,</p>
<p>I had mentioned this before. I am on a low carb (40g net carbs per day) diet for the past 13 months. </p>
<p>This April I went for lab work and the results were good except Uric acid levels. This jumped from 5.5 (Dec 08) to 8.0 now. The only major difference I see is I am taking Omega 3 Fish Oil supplements now.</p>
<p>I remember reading from one of your blog that Uric Acid levels increase when someone starts on Low Carb. Any pointers will be highly helpful.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Venkat</p>
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		<title>By: Justin De Quim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin De Quim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black pudding Bertha she&#039;s the queen of Northern Soul
Black pudding ooooh black pudding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47y_744QJg

Likely only those in the UK or Australia will know this.

Hilarious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black pudding Bertha she&#8217;s the queen of Northern Soul<br />
Black pudding ooooh black pudding</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47y_744QJg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47y_744QJg</a></p>
<p>Likely only those in the UK or Australia will know this.</p>
<p>Hilarious</p>
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		<title>By: dulcimerpete</title>
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		<dc:creator>dulcimerpete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic, but I’m tired of hearing about how livestock production is an inefficient use of land. So I thought I’d have a little fun and dust off some of my old pasture management information. We can debate the numbers, but I don’t think I’m too far off ... 

Let&#039;s assume the following:

- Dry matter yield from perennial ryegrass &amp; white clover pasture of 10,000 lb per acre
- 75% of the pasture dry matter produced is consumed by the grazing animal
- A conversion rate of 14 lb of pasture dry matter per lb of hanging weight
- An edible yield of 65% of the hanging weight
- A cooked yield of 56% of the raw weight
- A per meal protein requirement of 4 ounces of cooked meat
- 3 meals per day

Under these conditions, a piece of pasture less than 209 x 209 feet could produce enough meat to supply a person&#039;s daily protein needs for 260 days (not to mention the lovely fat!).

If we could bump the pasture yield to 15,000 lbs of DM per acre, we could produce sufficient meat to supply a person&#039;s daily protein needs for 390 days!!

Oh, and by the way, perennial pasture produces about as much root dry matter as it does above-ground dry matter, thus fixing more carbon.

This from a perennial &quot;crop&quot; that requires minimal fertilizer, pesticides, equipment, or petroleum to produce. But it isn’t “green” ‘cause it’s not vegetarian! 

*sigh*

dulcimerpete

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for all the effort on this.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but I’m tired of hearing about how livestock production is an inefficient use of land. So I thought I’d have a little fun and dust off some of my old pasture management information. We can debate the numbers, but I don’t think I’m too far off &#8230; </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume the following:</p>
<p>- Dry matter yield from perennial ryegrass &amp; white clover pasture of 10,000 lb per acre<br />
- 75% of the pasture dry matter produced is consumed by the grazing animal<br />
- A conversion rate of 14 lb of pasture dry matter per lb of hanging weight<br />
- An edible yield of 65% of the hanging weight<br />
- A cooked yield of 56% of the raw weight<br />
- A per meal protein requirement of 4 ounces of cooked meat<br />
- 3 meals per day</p>
<p>Under these conditions, a piece of pasture less than 209 x 209 feet could produce enough meat to supply a person&#8217;s daily protein needs for 260 days (not to mention the lovely fat!).</p>
<p>If we could bump the pasture yield to 15,000 lbs of DM per acre, we could produce sufficient meat to supply a person&#8217;s daily protein needs for 390 days!!</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, perennial pasture produces about as much root dry matter as it does above-ground dry matter, thus fixing more carbon.</p>
<p>This from a perennial &#8220;crop&#8221; that requires minimal fertilizer, pesticides, equipment, or petroleum to produce. But it isn’t “green” ‘cause it’s not vegetarian! </p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>dulcimerpete</p>
<p><em>Thanks for all the effort on this.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Medmanager.
For what my experience might be worth, I tried Intervention/Induction levels repeatedly and had to give them up.  Even the 72 grams recommended in &quot;Life Without Bread&quot; gave me trouble.  I have a couple of chronic conditions--old age and an autoimmune thing--which I suspect complicates things for me.  So, I decided to try coming at my goal from the top.  In February, I started keeping things around 100 net carbs.  Each month I&#039;ve lowered the goal, and by now I&#039;m completely comfortable at 60 net carbs.  Will I ever lose any weight?  That remains to be seen.  But I feel a lot more &quot;settled&quot; now, and cravings have definitely subsided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Medmanager.<br />
For what my experience might be worth, I tried Intervention/Induction levels repeatedly and had to give them up.  Even the 72 grams recommended in &#8220;Life Without Bread&#8221; gave me trouble.  I have a couple of chronic conditions&#8211;old age and an autoimmune thing&#8211;which I suspect complicates things for me.  So, I decided to try coming at my goal from the top.  In February, I started keeping things around 100 net carbs.  Each month I&#8217;ve lowered the goal, and by now I&#8217;m completely comfortable at 60 net carbs.  Will I ever lose any weight?  That remains to be seen.  But I feel a lot more &#8220;settled&#8221; now, and cravings have definitely subsided.</p>
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		<title>By: ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Eades,

I agree that high fat diets are great from a satiation point of view, but does it matter what type of fat is used?  In other words, can one eat saturated fat and still lose weight? Or shall we focus on olive oil and butter instead and try to trim the meat fat?   I have low inflammation (CRP) and normal BP and cholesterol, but cannot lose weight it seems (2000kcal, 70/20/10 fat, protein, carbs ratio).  What I am doing wrong?

&lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t know that this issue has been studied, but my guess would be that saturated fat would be more satiating.  But, I don&#039;t know for sure.  And I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re doing wrong without a whole lot more info.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Eades,</p>
<p>I agree that high fat diets are great from a satiation point of view, but does it matter what type of fat is used?  In other words, can one eat saturated fat and still lose weight? Or shall we focus on olive oil and butter instead and try to trim the meat fat?   I have low inflammation (CRP) and normal BP and cholesterol, but cannot lose weight it seems (2000kcal, 70/20/10 fat, protein, carbs ratio).  What I am doing wrong?</p>
<p><em>I don&#8217;t know that this issue has been studied, but my guess would be that saturated fat would be more satiating.  But, I don&#8217;t know for sure.  And I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing wrong without a whole lot more info.</em></p>
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