Low-carb lite…sort of

English breakfast at our hotel. A good low-carb diet.
It was bound to happen. Forever the low-fat diet promoters, whenever asked about low-carb diets, would always say: Show me the studies. Well, we showed them the studies, the vast majority of which demonstrated the superiority of low-carb diet, but they didn’t like what they saw. So they demanded more. The rallying cry became: Show me the long-term studies. Now that those are in, the anti-meat folks are running out of options. But one of their own great lipophobes (Lipid = fat; phobic = fear of. Lipophobe = fearer of fat.), David Jenkins, has come to the rescue.
Since the low-carb diet has proven so effective, opines he, why not make it even more so by making a vegetarian version? Then dieters can have all the advantages of a low-carb diet along with all the advantages of a plant-based diet. That is, assuming there are advantages to a plant-based diet, more about which later.
Although the low-carbohydrate diet has proven itself a cut above the low-fat diet in virtually all parameters measured, in one little measurement it has fallen short, at least in the minds of the lipophobes. A number of studies of subjects following low-carb diets show that LDL-cholesterol levels don’t fall to the levels found in subjects following lower-fat, higher-carbohydrate diets. And this troubles the lipophobes mightily.
To a lipophobe, LDL-cholesterol is all that matters. These people have bought in to the premise that LDL-cholesterol is a major driving force behind the development of heart disease, and in their minds, anything that doesn’t lower LDL-cholesterol levels is a very bad thing, indeed. It doesn’t matter to them if a particular nutritional regimen improves every other parameter relating to general health and even cardiovascular health, if that regimen doesn’t also lower LDL-cholesterol levels, it is suspect.
It matters not to them that there is no evidence showing that LDL-cholesterol levels cause or worsen heart disease; they believe with all their hearts that it does. In their fat-deprived brains, the lipid hypothesis isn’t a hypothesis at all. It is fact.
And so they set out to test the hypothesis that a low-carb diet without meat could achieve the Holy Grail of lipophobery: a lowered LDL-cholesterol.
The study published in this week’s Archives of Internal Medicine was picked up and reported on by multiple media outlets. It starts out with an opening statement laying out the problem of low-carb diets from the lipophobe’s perspective. Remember as you read this that virtually none of the statements presented as facts have ever been proven to be so.
There is a dilemma relating to the proportion and source of fat, protein, and carbohydrate that constitutes the optimal weight loss and cholesterol-lowering diet. Newer dietary approaches for the prevention and treatment of chronic disease increase the consumption of fruit and vegetables but reduce meat consumption either directly as part of the dietary strategy or displace meat by advocating increased intakes of fish, poultry, and low-fat dairy foods. Running counter to this advice has been the promotion of low-carbohydrate diets with increased meat consumption for body weight reduction and also in the longer term for the prevention and treatment of diabetes and coronary heart disease (CHD). These diets not only challenge the concept that red meat intakes should be reduced but also reverse the dietary macronutrient profile with fat and protein as the major macronutrients and carbohydrates as the minor macronutrient. Such low-carbohydrate diets have been shown to be effective in inducing weight loss, reducing insulin resistance, lowering serum triglyceride (TG) concentrations, and raising high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL-C) concentrations. However, the higher meat diets have not resulted in lower low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) concentrations, but have tended to increase LDL-C concentrations except when vegetarian sources of fat and protein were included. This lack of a benefit for LDL-C control is a major disadvantage in using this dietary strategy in those already at increased risk of CHD.
There it is, the sticking point for lipophobes and the low-carb diet. It doesn’t matter what kind of good results those following low-carb diets achieve, in their minds all that matters is the LDL-cholesterol. Read that last sentence again. After all the description of the multiple benefits of low-carb dieting, it all boils down to LDL.
This lack of a benefit for LDL-C control is a major disadvantage in using this dietary strategy in those already at increased risk of CHD.
A major disadvantage they say. Will someone show us, please, all the evidence that there is a disadvantage? Gary Taubes wrote an entire book about the lack of evidence of any advantage to achieving a lower LDL and the lack of data showing saturated fat causing any increase in risk for heart disease, but that information is lost on these guys.
The authors of this paper are going to fix the low-carb diet problem. Here’s what they did in their own words.
In view of the apparent success of low-carbohydrate diets for weight loss and the demonstration that relatively high-carbohydrate diets low in animal products lower CHD risk factors, we determined the effect of a low-carbohydrate weight-loss diet, without the use of animal products, on serum lipid concentrations compared with a higher carbohydrate diet.
Let’s take a look at what they did.
They recruited 50 subjects, 47 of whom actually started the study. The researchers randomly assigned the subjects to either a low-carbohydrate or a high-carbohydrate, calorie-reduced diet of a one-month duration. Couriers delivered the food, all of which was prepared in a metabolic kitchen, to the subjects, all of whom presented themselves to the clinic weekly for evaluation.
Here is a description of the diets:
Metabolically controlled diets in which all food was provided were consumed by the participants. The low-carbohydrate diet provided the minimum level of carbohydrates currently recommended (130 g/d) and eliminated common starch-containing foods, such as bread, baked goods, potatoes, and rice. The protein content was provided by gluten (54.8% of total protein), soy (23.0%), fruits and vegetables (8.7%), nuts (7.5%), and cereals (6.0%). Gluten was provided in the nut bread and wheat gluten (also called “seitan”) products and, together with soy, in burgers, veggie bacon, deli slices, and breakfast links. In addition, soy was provided as tofu and soy beverages. Nuts included almonds, cashews, hazelnuts, macadamia, pecans, and pistachios. The fat was provided by nuts (43.6% of total fat), vegetable oils (24.4%), soy products (18.5%), avocado (7.1%), cereals (2.7%), fruits and vegetables (2.3%), and seitan products (1.4%). The diet was designed to provide 26% of calories as carbohydrates, 31% as protein, and 43% as fat. The high-carbohydrate diet was a low-fat lacto-ovo vegetarian diet (58% carbohydrates, 16% protein, and 25% fat) using low-fat or skim milk dairy products and liquid egg whites or egg substitute to ensure a low–saturated fat and low-cholesterol intake. All diets were provided at 60% of estimated calorie requirements using the Harris-Benedict equation with allowance for exercise.
The low-carbohydrate diet featured viscous fiber-containing foods, including oats and barley, for the relatively limited amount of carbohydrates allowed, and the production of a “no starch” high-protein bread made entirely from ground almonds, hazel nuts, and wheat gluten. The carbohydrate foods and low-starch vegetables, emphasizing okra and eggplant, provided 6 to 7 g of viscous fiber per 2000-kcal diet. The bread was provided as part of the diet.
Whoa there! Did we read that correctly? Did it say that the low-carbohydrate diet contained 130 grams per day of carbohydrate? It sure did. Doesn’t sound much like a low-carbohydrate diet to me. It takes a restriction of carbohydrates down to the 50 or so gram per day level to get the real benefit of low-carb dieting, the so-called low-carb magic. Anything much above that is simply a low-calorie diet with a little less carb.
What were the results of this experiment after both groups were on their respective diets for a month? Well, it’s hard to say for sure because of the way the data were looked at. Fifty subjects were recruited, but only 47 actually started the program. Of these 47, only 44 completed the study (22 in each group). But the data were evaluated using an intention-to-treat analysis, which, at best, gives less than valid answers.
Here is the chart showing the study outcomes:

If we ignore the fact that these data were derived using an intention-to-treat analysis and take them as presented, we can see that the lower-carb veggie diet out performed the higher-carb, lower-fat diet in a number of parameters. Let’s look at those that were statistically significant (a P value of less than 0.05).
Satiety was greater in the higher-fat diet. As you can see, subjects on the low-calorie, high-carb diet got hungrier as the study progressed. Those on the lower-carb diet got minimally less hungry as compared to the start of the study, which isn’t a surprise as fat is filling.
Total cholesterol and LDL-cholesterol both fell to a larger extent on the lower-carb diet. Finally, a low-carb diet in which LDL-cholesterol dropped. I’m sure the researchers were orgasmic.
As anyone with any experience with low-carb diets would predict, triglycerides fell markedly as compared to those on the control diet.
All the lipid ratios were improved more on the low-carb diet.
Apo B (a measure of LDL particle number) fell to a greater extent on the low-carb diet and the apo B to apo A1 ratio was lower on the low-carb diet, a fact the researchers made much of.
Both the apo B concentration and the apo B–apo A1 ratio fell significantly more for the low-carbohydrate vs the high-carbohydrate diet…
Most low-carbohydrate diets have not reported the effects on apolipoproteins. The reduction in apo B and the apo B–apo AI ratio observed in the present study is a further confirmation of the potential CHD benefit that might be expected from this dietary approach to body weight reduction. In some studies, the apolipoprotein concentrations have been claimed to have greater predictive value for CHD events than more conventional lipid variables.
This emphasis on the apo ratios is interesting. Apo B is the protein associated with LDL-cholesterol and apo A1 is the protein associated with HDL-cholesterol. One of the big bugaboos about low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets is the fact that although these diets generally bring about a fall in LDL-cholesterol, they also bring about a greater decrease (percentage-wise) in HDL-cholesterol. This study is remarkable because HDL-cholesterol fell in the low-carb arm whereas in most low-carb diets HDL-cholesterol goes up. HDL-cholesterol is fat dependent (probably saturated-fat dependent if you want my opinion), and since most low-carb diets are high-fat diets, HDL-cholesterol goes up in subjects following them. I’m sure these researchers desperately wanted the same to happen here, but, alas, it didn’t. HDL-cholesterol fell just as it did in the high-carb arm. They are trying to cover for this by focusing attention on the apo B to apo A1 ratio, which did fall, meaning, basically, that LDL-cholesterol levels fell more than did HDL-cholesterol levels. On a good quality low-carb diet you would typically find that LDL-cholesterol levels stay about the same (or maybe fall a little or even rise a little) while HDL-cholesterol levels go up.
I find the last sentence in the above quote really intriguing.
In some studies, the apolipoprotein concentrations have been claimed to have greater predictive value for CHD events than more conventional lipid variables.
Since apolipoprotein levels are indicators of the various cholesterol particle sizes, I would say this is a great understatement. Virtually all of the research on this subject has shown that low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets – even though they reduce LDL-cholesterol – end up resulting in LDL-cholesterol of the small, dense particle size, which is much more atherogenic than the larger, fluffier particles found in subjects after following low-carb, higher-fat diets. To report that this is the case in just some studies is disingenuous to say the least. But to report it otherwise would give the lie to the notion that LDL-cholesterol levels by themselves amount to much of anything. And we wouldn’t expect a true lipophobe to do that, would we?
When we slice and dice all the data from this study, what do we find? We find that a lower-carb diet (not a low-carb diet, but a lower-carb diet) so complicated it basically requires a metabolic kitchen to prepare provides the same benefit as a real meat-based low-carb diet with the only difference being that the plant-based lower-carb diet gives a little lower LDL-cholesterol reading. When you consider that this lower LDL-cholesterol reading came at the expense of a reduction in HDL-cholesterol and a major effort required to prepare the diet, one has to ask if it is really worth it?
I would bet that if the plant-based lower-carb (130 g/day) diet were compared with a meat-based real low-carb diet (50 g/day or under), the real low-carb diet (such as the one pictured at the top of this post) would win across the board. The LDL-cholesterol number may not go down as much, but who really cares? LDL-particle size would be larger (I calculated particle size in this study, and there was no change) and all other parameters would probably be improved more.
Maybe someday someone will do such a study and prove me right. Or wrong. In any case, this study has some value in that now maybe all those docs who have shied away from prescribing low-carb diets to their patients because of ungrounded fear of a minimal increase in LDL-cholesterol will give this version a try. For all its faults, it’s better than the low-fat, high-carb diet.
*Lipid = fat; phobic = fear of. Lipophobe = fearer of fat














Hi, Medmanager.
For what my experience might be worth, I tried Intervention/Induction levels repeatedly and had to give them up. Even the 72 grams recommended in “Life Without Bread” gave me trouble. I have a couple of chronic conditions–old age and an autoimmune thing–which I suspect complicates things for me. So, I decided to try coming at my goal from the top. In February, I started keeping things around 100 net carbs. Each month I’ve lowered the goal, and by now I’m completely comfortable at 60 net carbs. Will I ever lose any weight? That remains to be seen. But I feel a lot more “settled” now, and cravings have definitely subsided.
Off topic, but I’m tired of hearing about how livestock production is an inefficient use of land. So I thought I’d have a little fun and dust off some of my old pasture management information. We can debate the numbers, but I don’t think I’m too far off …
Let’s assume the following:
- Dry matter yield from perennial ryegrass & white clover pasture of 10,000 lb per acre
- 75% of the pasture dry matter produced is consumed by the grazing animal
- A conversion rate of 14 lb of pasture dry matter per lb of hanging weight
- An edible yield of 65% of the hanging weight
- A cooked yield of 56% of the raw weight
- A per meal protein requirement of 4 ounces of cooked meat
- 3 meals per day
Under these conditions, a piece of pasture less than 209 x 209 feet could produce enough meat to supply a person’s daily protein needs for 260 days (not to mention the lovely fat!).
If we could bump the pasture yield to 15,000 lbs of DM per acre, we could produce sufficient meat to supply a person’s daily protein needs for 390 days!!
Oh, and by the way, perennial pasture produces about as much root dry matter as it does above-ground dry matter, thus fixing more carbon.
This from a perennial “crop” that requires minimal fertilizer, pesticides, equipment, or petroleum to produce. But it isn’t “green” ‘cause it’s not vegetarian!
*sigh*
dulcimerpete
Thanks for all the effort on this.
Black pudding Bertha she’s the queen of Northern Soul
Black pudding ooooh black pudding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_47y_744QJg
Likely only those in the UK or Australia will know this.
Hilarious
Dr,
I had mentioned this before. I am on a low carb (40g net carbs per day) diet for the past 13 months.
This April I went for lab work and the results were good except Uric acid levels. This jumped from 5.5 (Dec 08) to 8.0 now. The only major difference I see is I am taking Omega 3 Fish Oil supplements now.
I remember reading from one of your blog that Uric Acid levels increase when someone starts on Low Carb. Any pointers will be highly helpful.
Thanks
Venkat
Hi Doc, a gent who reacted to one of my posts came with the claim that the causal mechanism underlying the link between the consumption of red meat and colon cancer is now fairly well understood. He claimed that heme iron is the main culprit. Its absorption allegedely generates NOC carcinogens.
He also claimed, and this seems incredible to me, that after a person has consumed red meat one can see DNA damage in the colon cells in the feces – similar damage to that seen in cancer sufferers.
To buttress his case for the link between red meat consumption and cancer he gave the following references:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16991129 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11857415 – http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11352852
What do you think of this?
I think they are all observational studies and don’t mean squat in terms of causality.
God, never mind the soy and wheat allergies, that sort of diet is one big antinutrient with all that phytic acid. *shudder* I learned about that thanks to the WAPF folks. Mentioned it to my little girl’s dad and his eyes lit up and he said, “That is an EXCELLENT chelating agent.” He had fun in high school chemistry, heh. Anyway. I just looked up how to make seitan, and here is a representative recipe:
http://vegweb.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=0ce7d1e2f6662ede8cb58576d38c4eda&topic=21474.0
It’s not fermented, and tofu is not fermented, and what is it with these people that they’re such experts on human health and diet but don’t understand how to prepare seed foods traditionally so they do the least amount of harm possible?
I could understand us meat-eating industrial-eating folks who were raised out of cans and boxes not knowing this stuff but… aren’t veg*ns supposed to be, I dunno, more *aware* or something?
I was so furious when I found out about this stuff. What? You mean this crap has been *sucking minerals out of my BODY*?? And I keep hearing stuff about diabetes being related to magnesium and chromium deficiency, too. Go figure, huh?
Hey Venkat, I’m not a doctor, but speaking of the WAPF folks, they’re really, really big on cod liver oil. In fact they recommend it over regular fish oil. You still get the omega-3s and you also get some fat-soluble vitamins that you might be short on otherwise. Dr. Weston A. Price used to treat malnourished little kids by giving them a combination of cod liver oil and butter oil (from grass-fed, yellow spring butter) once a day with a meal.
If you Google “uric acid omega-3″ you will find conflicting information about the effects of omega-3s on uric acid levels but there are at least some people finding that omega-3 supplementation seems to increase their UA. I have no idea why but you might start with taking a critical look at your overall dietary fat ratios and reading some Mary Enig. I haven’t read her book on dietary fats yet and she just might have an answer for you.
Dr. Eades,
3 years ago I had bloodwork done and the results weren’t pretty. My doc wanted to immediately start me on Lipitor, but I turned it down in favor of trying LC, which my dad (retired nurse) was doing at the time. I started LC but didn’t stick it out for more than a month. I’ve no doubt my blood is in worse shape now. They’d probably find bacon.
Question: on average, how long might it take for committed, consistent low carbers to start seeing improvement in their blood workups? (cholesterol, HDL, LDL, and all that)
BTW, I’m on day 3 of induction, feeling fine, and plan to stick with it.
Thank you in advance, and LOVE this site!
Glad to hear you love the site. I usually check blood work at six weeks in my patients, and most have significant improvement by then. I have checked as early as 11 days after starting the diet and have found major improvement even by then. I think the changes typically occur pretty early on.
Dr. Eades wrote: Why do so many people support Obama?
I write: What the h*&^ is that supposed to mean? That it’s just as irrational, in your book, to support President Obama as it is to believe in the efficacy of a low-fat, high-carb diet?
When you use sloppy, antagonistic rhetoric like that, it undermines your credibility. Big time, as the Vice President you probably supported used to say.
If Obama isn’t low-carb, does that mean Dick Cheney is?
If so, I’ll take the carbs, Doc. And I’d advise you to learn a bit more about politics — and rhetoric — to go with your diet theory.
I would advise you to go out and purchase a sense of humor.