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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely you must understand, as a doctor, that those patients who are very close to death, no longer need food.  My dad couldn&#039;t eat anything at the point he stopped treatment. To say that they are &quot;addicted&quot; at that point is rediculous.  I think those in the study were perhaps further from death than many who are finished with treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely you must understand, as a doctor, that those patients who are very close to death, no longer need food.  My dad couldn&#8217;t eat anything at the point he stopped treatment. To say that they are &#8220;addicted&#8221; at that point is rediculous.  I think those in the study were perhaps further from death than many who are finished with treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: bogartkick</title>
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		<dc:creator>bogartkick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very sorry for those who are involved with cancer. It really hurts you a lot to lose another person, but carbohydrates is one thing that matters, depending on your appetite and resistance. Thanks for this wonderful article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very sorry for those who are involved with cancer. It really hurts you a lot to lose another person, but carbohydrates is one thing that matters, depending on your appetite and resistance. Thanks for this wonderful article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Sutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To MV Moore,

Your blood lipid results speak for themselves.  If your husband would like comprehensive information from a cardiologist who is witnessing the benefits of low-carb in his own practice, both of you could visit heartscanblog.com hosted by Dr William Davis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To MV Moore,</p>
<p>Your blood lipid results speak for themselves.  If your husband would like comprehensive information from a cardiologist who is witnessing the benefits of low-carb in his own practice, both of you could visit heartscanblog.com hosted by Dr William Davis.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These comments remind me of the deaths of 
1.  My mother, and,
2.  A good friend.

Both died of oesophagal cancer.

For a variety of, off topic, reasons I did not catch up with my mother until a couple months 
before her death.

One day while visiting her at home i noticed a large number cans on the kitchen table.
These cans were a proprietary liquid product, provided by the hospital caring for her.  Being me I carefully read the back label.  It was loaded with sugars (no doubt to provide tired cancer victims with &quot;energy&quot; to hasten their death).  

I queried one of the doctors involved about the wisdom of feeding cancer patients high sugar food.  I was airily dismissed &quot;cancer cells feed on everything&quot;.

Clearly (at that time) a piece of a 70 year old Nobel Peace Prize research had not penetrated the minds of our local medics.

Some seven years later a friend of had the same fate.  He died two months ago.

It is not only the victims who are addicted to carbohydrates it is the medical profession
as well.

&lt;em&gt;Sad, but very true.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments remind me of the deaths of<br />
1.  My mother, and,<br />
2.  A good friend.</p>
<p>Both died of oesophagal cancer.</p>
<p>For a variety of, off topic, reasons I did not catch up with my mother until a couple months<br />
before her death.</p>
<p>One day while visiting her at home i noticed a large number cans on the kitchen table.<br />
These cans were a proprietary liquid product, provided by the hospital caring for her.  Being me I carefully read the back label.  It was loaded with sugars (no doubt to provide tired cancer victims with &#8220;energy&#8221; to hasten their death).  </p>
<p>I queried one of the doctors involved about the wisdom of feeding cancer patients high sugar food.  I was airily dismissed &#8220;cancer cells feed on everything&#8221;.</p>
<p>Clearly (at that time) a piece of a 70 year old Nobel Peace Prize research had not penetrated the minds of our local medics.</p>
<p>Some seven years later a friend of had the same fate.  He died two months ago.</p>
<p>It is not only the victims who are addicted to carbohydrates it is the medical profession<br />
as well.</p>
<p><em>Sad, but very true.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad when people can&#039;t stick to a no-carb diet to save their life. What&#039;s sadder, in my opinion, is when they won&#039;t even consider it because &quot;medical science&quot; says it&#039;s a bad thing.

My brother has colon cancer. He&#039;s had the surgery and the chemo, and so far the cancer is winning. I suggested he research the ketogenic diet: MedLine says it not only doesn&#039;t work for the kind of cancer he has, but is dangerous, especially for someone with diabetes or heart disease. (He has Type 2 diabetes, as I do, and hypertension, and there is a family history of people dying of heart attacks.)

I can&#039;t see where arguing with him is going to help - he has too many &quot;authorities&quot; on his side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad when people can&#8217;t stick to a no-carb diet to save their life. What&#8217;s sadder, in my opinion, is when they won&#8217;t even consider it because &#8220;medical science&#8221; says it&#8217;s a bad thing.</p>
<p>My brother has colon cancer. He&#8217;s had the surgery and the chemo, and so far the cancer is winning. I suggested he research the ketogenic diet: MedLine says it not only doesn&#8217;t work for the kind of cancer he has, but is dangerous, especially for someone with diabetes or heart disease. (He has Type 2 diabetes, as I do, and hypertension, and there is a family history of people dying of heart attacks.)</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see where arguing with him is going to help &#8211; he has too many &#8220;authorities&#8221; on his side.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning the cancer section above:

As far as I&#039;m aware, in a state of ketosis, ketones are used as a substitute for glucose molecules for the body&#039;s normal cells. Cancerous cells obviously differentiate between the ketones and glucose but how?

Have these cancer trials been run as truly low carb whereby the body enters ketosis or have they been simply a lowering of carbs so lipid metabolism becomes the dominant energy source?

Forgive me if I&#039;ve assumed anything that&#039;s incorrect, I&#039;m at the very forefront of my knowledge here :) Please do get as scientific as you dare in your reply!

&lt;em&gt;The cancerous cells differentiate between glucose and ketones because glucose and ketones are two different substances.  Many tissues can use both as fuel, but some can&#039;t.  The red blood cells, for example, can use only glucose.  Certain cells in the eye and in the kidney work the same.  As I understand it - and I&#039;ll be the first to admit that I haven&#039;t made a study of the subject - it&#039;s the same for cancer cells.  They use only glucose.

I&#039;m not intimately familiar with the studies on low carb diets and cancer therapy.  If you want to learn more, you can start &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/30&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/5/1/33&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning the cancer section above:</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m aware, in a state of ketosis, ketones are used as a substitute for glucose molecules for the body&#8217;s normal cells. Cancerous cells obviously differentiate between the ketones and glucose but how?</p>
<p>Have these cancer trials been run as truly low carb whereby the body enters ketosis or have they been simply a lowering of carbs so lipid metabolism becomes the dominant energy source?</p>
<p>Forgive me if I&#8217;ve assumed anything that&#8217;s incorrect, I&#8217;m at the very forefront of my knowledge here <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Please do get as scientific as you dare in your reply!</p>
<p><em>The cancerous cells differentiate between glucose and ketones because glucose and ketones are two different substances.  Many tissues can use both as fuel, but some can&#8217;t.  The red blood cells, for example, can use only glucose.  Certain cells in the eye and in the kidney work the same.  As I understand it &#8211; and I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that I haven&#8217;t made a study of the subject &#8211; it&#8217;s the same for cancer cells.  They use only glucose.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not intimately familiar with the studies on low carb diets and cancer therapy.  If you want to learn more, you can start <a href="http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/2/1/30" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/5/1/33" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: lctcathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lctcathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Eades, this is a fantastic post - thanks for all that you do.

I&#039;ve read that women who eat a fattier diet are more prone to breast cancer and was wondering if it was not the dietary fat but the high carbohydrate eating that is more common?  Could it be that they have studied the fat intake but not the rest of what a person is eating... i.e. refined carbohydrates combined with fat?

&lt;em&gt;There are many studies from Italy showing a correlation between starch intake and breast cancer, but these studies, like all the studies showing fat intake correlating with breast cancer are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statistics/observational-studies-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;observational studies&lt;/a&gt;, and, as such, can&#039;t be used to determine causality.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Eades, this is a fantastic post &#8211; thanks for all that you do.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read that women who eat a fattier diet are more prone to breast cancer and was wondering if it was not the dietary fat but the high carbohydrate eating that is more common?  Could it be that they have studied the fat intake but not the rest of what a person is eating&#8230; i.e. refined carbohydrates combined with fat?</p>
<p><em>There are many studies from Italy showing a correlation between starch intake and breast cancer, but these studies, like all the studies showing fat intake correlating with breast cancer are <a href="http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/statistics/observational-studies-2/" rel="nofollow">observational studies</a>, and, as such, can&#8217;t be used to determine causality.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad.  My MIL who passed of inflammatory breast cancer was told to &quot;eat whatever you want&quot;.  This was unfortunately all the sugary junk food she wanted.  Like the previous poster, I did question the doctor, and was told &quot;nutrition won&#039;t help&quot;...   I wasn&#039;t convinced, but my MIL, who had the final say on what she ate, was..

&lt;em&gt;I may not have helped at her stage, but, again, what would it have hurt?  It may have done the trick.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad.  My MIL who passed of inflammatory breast cancer was told to &#8220;eat whatever you want&#8221;.  This was unfortunately all the sugary junk food she wanted.  Like the previous poster, I did question the doctor, and was told &#8220;nutrition won&#8217;t help&#8221;&#8230;   I wasn&#8217;t convinced, but my MIL, who had the final say on what she ate, was..</p>
<p><em>I may not have helped at her stage, but, again, what would it have hurt?  It may have done the trick.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Sim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sigh.&quot;
I remember when my mother was dying of oesophogical cancer, I checked out the ingredient label on a canned liquid product that was the mainstay of her diet provided by the hospital.  The principal ingredient was glucose.

I queried this with the staff and was assured that cancer cells fed on everything.

A fat lot of of notice was taken of me who quoted the Warburg effect.

Medics always know best.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sigh.&#8221;<br />
I remember when my mother was dying of oesophogical cancer, I checked out the ingredient label on a canned liquid product that was the mainstay of her diet provided by the hospital.  The principal ingredient was glucose.</p>
<p>I queried this with the staff and was assured that cancer cells fed on everything.</p>
<p>A fat lot of of notice was taken of me who quoted the Warburg effect.</p>
<p>Medics always know best&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never would have known that,  I no somebody that is fighting cancer as we speak. I am going to share this blog with them, and hopefully it can help.  Thank you so much for the work you do, keep up the good work.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.healthandnutrition360.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Health and Nutrition 360&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never would have known that,  I no somebody that is fighting cancer as we speak. I am going to share this blog with them, and hopefully it can help.  Thank you so much for the work you do, keep up the good work.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.healthandnutrition360.com/" rel="nofollow"> Health and Nutrition 360</a></p>
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