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		<title>By: Jim in Austin TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim in Austin TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mory - you said &quot; it’s so odd that everyone looses [sic] significant wt.&quot;. Dr. Eades doesn&#039;t suggest significant weight loss is obtained with IF; you just get a number of health benefits from it. He mentioned losing &quot;a little&quot; weight because he &amp; his wife &quot;couldn’t eat twice as much during the eating days as we would have eaten were we not fasting&quot;. At your BMI=33 (comfortably into the obese range) I&#039;d wager you&#039;d find the weight loss you&#039;re looking for with a strict low carb approach. IF is an idea to consider when you&#039;re at normal weight &amp; considering ways to maintain that new weight.

@eran - Clearly 170lbs on a 6&#039;0&quot; adult frame isn&#039;t &quot;too skinny&quot; no matter what chart you might consult. At BMI=23 you&#039;re in the middle of the normal range. Maybe you&#039;re wife is just worried about the looks you&#039;re getting from the other chicks ;)

@Anne - If you&#039;re saying that you&#039;re &quot;cheating&quot; with a little cream in your coffee, it shouldn&#039;t be too much of problem. I n a reply he made to a September 15, 2006 post by Esther Hoff (above), Dr. Mike said Dr. Mary does the same thing while IF&#039;ing. I do kind of agree with him when he suggests folks should &quot;buck up&quot; and drink it black. Personally any food I label as something I can&#039;t live without is one I should strongly consider living without - are you really a slave to a specific substance like *cream*? Oh wait, double standard, I can&#039;t live without black coffee myself ;)

I did want to add one more thing about IF to folks who aren&#039;t already low-carbing it. Before I started low-carbing, I couldn&#039;t imagine skipping a meal. If a meal was even an hour late, I always felt desperately hungry, fatigued, and very cranking. I&#039;m pretty sure now that it was the blood sugar spikes &amp; valleys caused by consuming carbs while being borderline insulin resistant - just like most Americans in middle age. So my strong suggestion for anyone overweight is to try a strict low-carb regimen first, and then consider IF only when you&#039;ve reached normal weight. It&#039;s the only way I could have done it.

Standard disclaimer: I&#039;m not a physician and I&#039;m only sharing personal experience.

Good luck everyone &amp; keep this post alive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mory &#8211; you said &#8221; it’s so odd that everyone looses [sic] significant wt.&#8221;. Dr. Eades doesn&#8217;t suggest significant weight loss is obtained with IF; you just get a number of health benefits from it. He mentioned losing &#8220;a little&#8221; weight because he &amp; his wife &#8220;couldn’t eat twice as much during the eating days as we would have eaten were we not fasting&#8221;. At your BMI=33 (comfortably into the obese range) I&#8217;d wager you&#8217;d find the weight loss you&#8217;re looking for with a strict low carb approach. IF is an idea to consider when you&#8217;re at normal weight &amp; considering ways to maintain that new weight.</p>
<p>@eran &#8211; Clearly 170lbs on a 6&#8217;0&#8243; adult frame isn&#8217;t &#8220;too skinny&#8221; no matter what chart you might consult. At BMI=23 you&#8217;re in the middle of the normal range. Maybe you&#8217;re wife is just worried about the looks you&#8217;re getting from the other chicks <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Anne &#8211; If you&#8217;re saying that you&#8217;re &#8220;cheating&#8221; with a little cream in your coffee, it shouldn&#8217;t be too much of problem. I n a reply he made to a September 15, 2006 post by Esther Hoff (above), Dr. Mike said Dr. Mary does the same thing while IF&#8217;ing. I do kind of agree with him when he suggests folks should &#8220;buck up&#8221; and drink it black. Personally any food I label as something I can&#8217;t live without is one I should strongly consider living without &#8211; are you really a slave to a specific substance like *cream*? Oh wait, double standard, I can&#8217;t live without black coffee myself <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I did want to add one more thing about IF to folks who aren&#8217;t already low-carbing it. Before I started low-carbing, I couldn&#8217;t imagine skipping a meal. If a meal was even an hour late, I always felt desperately hungry, fatigued, and very cranking. I&#8217;m pretty sure now that it was the blood sugar spikes &amp; valleys caused by consuming carbs while being borderline insulin resistant &#8211; just like most Americans in middle age. So my strong suggestion for anyone overweight is to try a strict low-carb regimen first, and then consider IF only when you&#8217;ve reached normal weight. It&#8217;s the only way I could have done it.</p>
<p>Standard disclaimer: I&#8217;m not a physician and I&#8217;m only sharing personal experience.</p>
<p>Good luck everyone &amp; keep this post alive!</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Doc :D I love this IF thing!
I just think maybe am not doing enough as I can&#039;t stand coffee without cream and just having tea and water I get a little sick. I am VERY insulin resitant; I don&#039;t know if I am hypoglycemic or that is what I am feeling. I do know if I eat breakfast skip lunch ugh really sick.
My question is am I am doing a little mostly harmless cheating (I do the fast every other day till 6PM thing three days a week) or am I ruining all my efforts? The most important thing is to have good blood sugar levels although I need to lose weight too. I do eat healthy, by preference. Thank you thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Doc <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I love this IF thing!<br />
I just think maybe am not doing enough as I can&#8217;t stand coffee without cream and just having tea and water I get a little sick. I am VERY insulin resitant; I don&#8217;t know if I am hypoglycemic or that is what I am feeling. I do know if I eat breakfast skip lunch ugh really sick.<br />
My question is am I am doing a little mostly harmless cheating (I do the fast every other day till 6PM thing three days a week) or am I ruining all my efforts? The most important thing is to have good blood sugar levels although I need to lose weight too. I do eat healthy, by preference. Thank you thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think IF is the best way to go.</description>
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		<title>By: eran</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 01:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds interesting. I am 51 and 6 foot tall. I weighed 195 pounds 6 months ago and lost 25 pounds on caloric restriction. Now I weigh 170 pounds. Even though my weight is ideal for my height my wife says I look too skinny. Perhaps I can use intermittent fasting and get the benefits without losing further weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds interesting. I am 51 and 6 foot tall. I weighed 195 pounds 6 months ago and lost 25 pounds on caloric restriction. Now I weigh 170 pounds. Even though my weight is ideal for my height my wife says I look too skinny. Perhaps I can use intermittent fasting and get the benefits without losing further weight.</p>
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		<title>By: mory</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez Jim,  I&#039;ve pretty much do what you do, only 2- 36 hour fasts a week-- been doing it for at least two years at that pace,  I&#039;m only about 10 pounds lighter than I was two years ago in the fall.  I&#039;m 57 5&#039;4&#039;&#039; about 190 lbs, I was about 200 back then.  I&#039;m a chubby little fella.  There are so many postive testimonies here to the efficacy of IF, maybe it&#039;s helpful to hear of someone that struggles in it? I don&#039;t really struggle, cuz I like the way I feel doing it, and, I&#039;d be 500 lbs if I didn&#039;t.  But it&#039;s so odd that everyone looses significant wt. in such a short time and I&#039;m still and chubbly little guy over two years of doing If?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez Jim,  I&#8217;ve pretty much do what you do, only 2- 36 hour fasts a week&#8211; been doing it for at least two years at that pace,  I&#8217;m only about 10 pounds lighter than I was two years ago in the fall.  I&#8217;m 57 5&#8217;4&#8221; about 190 lbs, I was about 200 back then.  I&#8217;m a chubby little fella.  There are so many postive testimonies here to the efficacy of IF, maybe it&#8217;s helpful to hear of someone that struggles in it? I don&#8217;t really struggle, cuz I like the way I feel doing it, and, I&#8217;d be 500 lbs if I didn&#8217;t.  But it&#8217;s so odd that everyone looses significant wt. in such a short time and I&#8217;m still and chubbly little guy over two years of doing If?</p>
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		<title>By: JimD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[ I left this reply on Oct 14 2011 but it never got added to the stream, so I&#039;m trying again - ]

Hi folks - great post, great replies. I read them all, every last one, over the last week or so. Now I have a question about my weight loss during Intermittent Fasting (IF).

I’m a 51 year old male, 5’11”, and this year I used the low carb way of eating to drop from a BMI of 27.5 to 23 over the last several months. My goal is BMI 22, or 158 lbs - basically college weight. 

I hit a plateau for several weeks &amp; wasn’t dropping any more weight while continuing to eat induction levels of carbs, so I started IF just a couple of weeks ago. I do two 36-hour fasts (e.g. fast from Mon dinner to Wed breakfast) per week and I’ve completed four of these. 

My fast is as honest a fast as I can make it - just coffee (no sugar or cream), iced tea, water, and chicken broth with a little extra pepper on fasting days. I drink a good amount of water (at least 3 liters) because I realize that caffeine is a diuretic.

My records show I’m losing about 2.5lbs during the fast and regaining 1.0 to 1.5lbs after each fast, so during each of these two weeks I’ve been fasting, I’ve lost a little over two pounds a week.

Now of course I don’t subscribe completely to the “3500 calories equals one pound” equation because I know the body plays games with the metabolism when given too many or too few calories. But what I wonder is this - if my typical diet is 2000 to 2500 calories and I’m only skipping one day of feeding, how am I averaging a full pound of real loss with each fast?

I love it but it seems impossible.

[ Update on Dec 29 2011 ]

I&#039;ve completed 14 of these 36-hour fasts and also have been doing shorter fasts where I just skip breakfast and lunch. I’m just a pound or two away from my goal weight now - the fasting has helped me shed over 10 pounds since my plateau in October.

Overall I&#039;m very happy with the results - I may not be losing a full pound from a single day of fasting, but I&#039;m still finding intermittent fasting to be much easier to handle psychologically than trying to use portion control to reduce calorie intake. Although I haven&#039;t really experienced a &quot;euphoria&quot; that some folks report while fasting, I do feel mentally sharper and I certainly get a euphoric kick out of the first meal I use to break my fast!

I&#039;ll continue to use the 24-hour fast (skipping bkfst and lunch only) for maintenance in 2012. Happy New Year to everyone!</description>
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<p>Hi folks &#8211; great post, great replies. I read them all, every last one, over the last week or so. Now I have a question about my weight loss during Intermittent Fasting (IF).</p>
<p>I’m a 51 year old male, 5’11”, and this year I used the low carb way of eating to drop from a BMI of 27.5 to 23 over the last several months. My goal is BMI 22, or 158 lbs &#8211; basically college weight. </p>
<p>I hit a plateau for several weeks &amp; wasn’t dropping any more weight while continuing to eat induction levels of carbs, so I started IF just a couple of weeks ago. I do two 36-hour fasts (e.g. fast from Mon dinner to Wed breakfast) per week and I’ve completed four of these. </p>
<p>My fast is as honest a fast as I can make it &#8211; just coffee (no sugar or cream), iced tea, water, and chicken broth with a little extra pepper on fasting days. I drink a good amount of water (at least 3 liters) because I realize that caffeine is a diuretic.</p>
<p>My records show I’m losing about 2.5lbs during the fast and regaining 1.0 to 1.5lbs after each fast, so during each of these two weeks I’ve been fasting, I’ve lost a little over two pounds a week.</p>
<p>Now of course I don’t subscribe completely to the “3500 calories equals one pound” equation because I know the body plays games with the metabolism when given too many or too few calories. But what I wonder is this &#8211; if my typical diet is 2000 to 2500 calories and I’m only skipping one day of feeding, how am I averaging a full pound of real loss with each fast?</p>
<p>I love it but it seems impossible.</p>
<p>[ Update on Dec 29 2011 ]</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve completed 14 of these 36-hour fasts and also have been doing shorter fasts where I just skip breakfast and lunch. I’m just a pound or two away from my goal weight now &#8211; the fasting has helped me shed over 10 pounds since my plateau in October.</p>
<p>Overall I&#8217;m very happy with the results &#8211; I may not be losing a full pound from a single day of fasting, but I&#8217;m still finding intermittent fasting to be much easier to handle psychologically than trying to use portion control to reduce calorie intake. Although I haven&#8217;t really experienced a &#8220;euphoria&#8221; that some folks report while fasting, I do feel mentally sharper and I certainly get a euphoric kick out of the first meal I use to break my fast!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll continue to use the 24-hour fast (skipping bkfst and lunch only) for maintenance in 2012. Happy New Year to everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 00:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks ashley.  that helps.  dr. eades, IMO, adrenal fatigue is very real.  a great book to read is &quot;Adrenal Fatigue&quot;, by dr. james wilson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks ashley.  that helps.  dr. eades, IMO, adrenal fatigue is very real.  a great book to read is &#8220;Adrenal Fatigue&#8221;, by dr. james wilson.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had adrenal fatigue.. it is much better now. I used to be so bad that I could hardly do much at all. Anyway, I don&#039;t think IF is very good for when your adrenals are compromised. I found, doing IF, that at first I lost weight and felt really good, but after a while I stopped losing weight and started to get tired a lot again and having to take naps (it is almost involuntary, I HAVE to sleep, not normal tiredness) so I stopped doing it. Since then, I have done better eating low glycemic (got a blood sugar monitor and found I&#039;m borderline diabetic- I didn&#039;t think I could have real insulin problems because I work physically hard and ate decent but that&#039;s apparently no guarantee!) and smaller meals more often. I don&#039;t buy that idea of it keeping your metabolism up, but I think the reason it helps some lose weight is because they don&#039;t ever spike their blood sugar. I think the reason I liked IF so much was because my body so craved having a high blood sugar that I only seemed to get from a large meal (I didn&#039;t care for sweets a whole lot for the most part, not like you would think) so it was worth it not to eat in order to get to eat a real meal. I had a hard time feeling satisfied from food. Since going low glycemic (plenty of protein and fat, good fat that is), I have lost about 8 lbs. They have come off slow about a lb a week but all of it&#039;s been from my belly. Also, my lower back pain is going away as have my stomach problems (the main thing is when I would run it would sometimes throw my stomach into unbearable cramps- I&#039;ve had pancreatitis before and I&#039;d say these are comparable, they&#039;re that painful, also my stomach would overract to herbal laxatives). Now that I&#039;ve done just low GI for a couple months, I think throwing a fast in here and there would be ok, but doing it too often was probably too hard on my adrenals much as I hate to admit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had adrenal fatigue.. it is much better now. I used to be so bad that I could hardly do much at all. Anyway, I don&#8217;t think IF is very good for when your adrenals are compromised. I found, doing IF, that at first I lost weight and felt really good, but after a while I stopped losing weight and started to get tired a lot again and having to take naps (it is almost involuntary, I HAVE to sleep, not normal tiredness) so I stopped doing it. Since then, I have done better eating low glycemic (got a blood sugar monitor and found I&#8217;m borderline diabetic- I didn&#8217;t think I could have real insulin problems because I work physically hard and ate decent but that&#8217;s apparently no guarantee!) and smaller meals more often. I don&#8217;t buy that idea of it keeping your metabolism up, but I think the reason it helps some lose weight is because they don&#8217;t ever spike their blood sugar. I think the reason I liked IF so much was because my body so craved having a high blood sugar that I only seemed to get from a large meal (I didn&#8217;t care for sweets a whole lot for the most part, not like you would think) so it was worth it not to eat in order to get to eat a real meal. I had a hard time feeling satisfied from food. Since going low glycemic (plenty of protein and fat, good fat that is), I have lost about 8 lbs. They have come off slow about a lb a week but all of it&#8217;s been from my belly. Also, my lower back pain is going away as have my stomach problems (the main thing is when I would run it would sometimes throw my stomach into unbearable cramps- I&#8217;ve had pancreatitis before and I&#8217;d say these are comparable, they&#8217;re that painful, also my stomach would overract to herbal laxatives). Now that I&#8217;ve done just low GI for a couple months, I think throwing a fast in here and there would be ok, but doing it too often was probably too hard on my adrenals much as I hate to admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: mreades</title>
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		<dc:creator>mreades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no experience with anyone with adrenal fatigue (which is itself a questionable diagnosis) following an IF, so I can&#039;t say from observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no experience with anyone with adrenal fatigue (which is itself a questionable diagnosis) following an IF, so I can&#8217;t say from observation.</p>
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		<title>By: mreades</title>
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		<dc:creator>mreades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people do what you are contemplating on an IF.  See how it works for you - it has worked for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people do what you are contemplating on an IF.  See how it works for you &#8211; it has worked for others.</p>
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