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	<title>Comments on: Mock Turtle Soup at The Fat Duck</title>
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		<title>By: Sous Vide Supreme tour &#124; The Blog of Michael R. Eades, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/good-eating/mock-turtle-soup-at-the-fat-duck/#comment-241195</link>
		<dc:creator>Sous Vide Supreme tour &#124; The Blog of Michael R. Eades, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We then introduce Heston, who shows a video of the preparation of Mock Turtle Soup, which I also blogged about not too long ago.  He follows that with a short video of a dessert composed of all the essences of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We then introduce Heston, who shows a video of the preparation of Mock Turtle Soup, which I also blogged about not too long ago.  He follows that with a short video of a dessert composed of all the essences of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret Lopez</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/good-eating/mock-turtle-soup-at-the-fat-duck/#comment-222142</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are you? we miss your posts

&lt;em&gt;I have a ton of people visiting and a half dozen projects going.  Time is at a premium.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you? we miss your posts</p>
<p><em>I have a ton of people visiting and a half dozen projects going.  Time is at a premium.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Desmondo</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/good-eating/mock-turtle-soup-at-the-fat-duck/#comment-222132</link>
		<dc:creator>Desmondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m disappointed you did not reveal that you toasted Heston with Mad Hatter&#039;s Tea  while quoting &quot;Twinkle, twinkle, liittle bat&quot; and that as you left you thanked him with the words 

&quot;&#039;Twas brillig ...&quot;.

Of course no slithy toves disturbed your sleep later ......?

In addition, I hope you were not reminded of George, while in Bray-on-Thames.

I have wonderful memories of the occasion of a wedding up-river in Streetley-on-Thames, in The (slim) Swan!

Thank you for the review.
Desmondo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disappointed you did not reveal that you toasted Heston with Mad Hatter&#8217;s Tea  while quoting &#8220;Twinkle, twinkle, liittle bat&#8221; and that as you left you thanked him with the words </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Twas brillig &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of course no slithy toves disturbed your sleep later &#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>In addition, I hope you were not reminded of George, while in Bray-on-Thames.</p>
<p>I have wonderful memories of the occasion of a wedding up-river in Streetley-on-Thames, in The (slim) Swan!</p>
<p>Thank you for the review.<br />
Desmondo</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;ll bite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_number

One of my favorite birthday treats was Red Velvet Cake; I don&#039;t think they even allow the dye my mum used any more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ll bite: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_number" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_number</a></p>
<p>One of my favorite birthday treats was Red Velvet Cake; I don&#8217;t think they even allow the dye my mum used any more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite interesting how you found your experience at the fat duck, you seem to be quite concerned with your diet and health in general , how do you feel about the massive amount of E numbers used at the fat duck , did you feel good ,nourished after it ? I know restaurants at the top end are not the place to go everyday for lunch if you are concerned about your diet but Heston&#039;s food is pumped full of E numbers .

&lt;em&gt;Maybe I&#039;m dense, but I don&#039;t know what an E number is.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite interesting how you found your experience at the fat duck, you seem to be quite concerned with your diet and health in general , how do you feel about the massive amount of E numbers used at the fat duck , did you feel good ,nourished after it ? I know restaurants at the top end are not the place to go everyday for lunch if you are concerned about your diet but Heston&#8217;s food is pumped full of E numbers .</p>
<p><em>Maybe I&#8217;m dense, but I don&#8217;t know what an E number is.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/good-eating/mock-turtle-soup-at-the-fat-duck/#comment-220590</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the links to the nutritional information on what the ABC journalists ate:
Quesadilla Burger
http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/applebees/quesadilla-burger
Mega-Sized Deep Dish Sundae
http://www.unos.com/kiosk/nutritionUnos.html
Fried Macaroni and Cheese
http://calorielab.com/news/wp-images/post-images/cheesecake-factory-nutrition-facts-calories-01.gif

One serving of each only adds up to 82g of Sat Fat (122 total Fat) but 242 g Carbs.  Even if they consumed more than 1 serving of any, the numbers don&#039;t add up to 187 g sat fat.

Sorry to clog up the comments.

&lt;em&gt;Geez, you put these up while I was writing the post about them.  You could have saved me a lot of time if you had posted a little earlier. :-)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the links to the nutritional information on what the ABC journalists ate:<br />
Quesadilla Burger<br />
<a href="http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/applebees/quesadilla-burger" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/applebees/quesadilla-burger</a><br />
Mega-Sized Deep Dish Sundae<br />
<a href="http://www.unos.com/kiosk/nutritionUnos.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.unos.com/kiosk/nutritionUnos.html</a><br />
Fried Macaroni and Cheese<br />
<a href="http://calorielab.com/news/wp-images/post-images/cheesecake-factory-nutrition-facts-calories-01.gif" rel="nofollow">http://calorielab.com/news/wp-images/post-images/cheesecake-factory-nutrition-facts-calories-01.gif</a></p>
<p>One serving of each only adds up to 82g of Sat Fat (122 total Fat) but 242 g Carbs.  Even if they consumed more than 1 serving of any, the numbers don&#8217;t add up to 187 g sat fat.</p>
<p>Sorry to clog up the comments.</p>
<p><em>Geez, you put these up while I was writing the post about them.  You could have saved me a lot of time if you had posted a little earlier. <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </em></p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this link http://www.umm.edu/features/high_fat_meals.htm wherein Dr. Plotnick (from the University of Maryland) describes the test that seemed to be used by the ABC News reporters.

I wondered why they sought out the University of Maryland doctors.  I would guess CSPI pointed them there.

&lt;em&gt;The study described here is a different study.  It checks flow mediated dilation whereas the one in the article is a simple ultrasound exam of the artery.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this link <a href="http://www.umm.edu/features/high_fat_meals.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.umm.edu/features/high_fat_meals.htm</a> wherein Dr. Plotnick (from the University of Maryland) describes the test that seemed to be used by the ABC News reporters.</p>
<p>I wondered why they sought out the University of Maryland doctors.  I would guess CSPI pointed them there.</p>
<p><em>The study described here is a different study.  It checks flow mediated dilation whereas the one in the article is a simple ultrasound exam of the artery.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, I forgot the link 

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Health/Story?id=8013761&amp;page=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I forgot the link </p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Health/Story?id=8013761&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Health/Story?id=8013761&amp;page=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the full length story on the 6,190 calorie lunch.  They could actually see the saturated fat in their blood at the end. (Or so they say.)

Let me add my voice to the pleas to do a full post on this!  

Some quotes from the story:

&quot;Jon&#039;s blood samples showed an obvious, significant difference. While his pre-meal blood sample was relatively clear, his post-meal sample was extremely cloudy -- you could literally see the fat that was now flooding his system.&quot;

&quot;On the other hand, my ultrasound revealed a startling change. A large dose of saturated fat causes a chemical reaction, wherein the arteries narrow and do not dilate properly. This means the heart must work harder to pump blood through the arteries. In my case, my heart was working so intensely to pump blood through my narrowed arteries, you could actually hear the difference in my blood flow.&quot;

&quot;Miller [Dr. Michael Miller from the University of Maryland] said that eating high-fat foods like the ones Jon and I did is as bad as smoking cigarettes.&quot;

&quot;&quot;You are developing premature aging of your vascular system by eating an unhealthy diet,&quot; Miller explained.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Hey, I just posted on this same story.  Great minds think alike, I guess.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the full length story on the 6,190 calorie lunch.  They could actually see the saturated fat in their blood at the end. (Or so they say.)</p>
<p>Let me add my voice to the pleas to do a full post on this!  </p>
<p>Some quotes from the story:</p>
<p>&#8220;Jon&#8217;s blood samples showed an obvious, significant difference. While his pre-meal blood sample was relatively clear, his post-meal sample was extremely cloudy &#8212; you could literally see the fat that was now flooding his system.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;On the other hand, my ultrasound revealed a startling change. A large dose of saturated fat causes a chemical reaction, wherein the arteries narrow and do not dilate properly. This means the heart must work harder to pump blood through the arteries. In my case, my heart was working so intensely to pump blood through my narrowed arteries, you could actually hear the difference in my blood flow.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Miller [Dr. Michael Miller from the University of Maryland] said that eating high-fat foods like the ones Jon and I did is as bad as smoking cigarettes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;You are developing premature aging of your vascular system by eating an unhealthy diet,&#8221; Miller explained.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Hey, I just posted on this same story.  Great minds think alike, I guess.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Lyn P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyn P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edible gold...with the current price of gold driving folks back into the hills panning for gold (no joke, piece yesterday on NPR and an article in Atl paper about the panning going on in Dahlonega now)...that was some pot of edible Doc *G*.  Lools really scrumptious!

That reduced endothelial function from eating that ginormous lunch was pretty amusing. If you that huge qty of anything, I&#039;m sure it&#039;d have horrific effects somewhere in the body (hmmm, maybe not meat tho eating meat seems self-limiting to me).  We aren&#039;t constructed to gorge like that...period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edible gold&#8230;with the current price of gold driving folks back into the hills panning for gold (no joke, piece yesterday on NPR and an article in Atl paper about the panning going on in Dahlonega now)&#8230;that was some pot of edible Doc *G*.  Lools really scrumptious!</p>
<p>That reduced endothelial function from eating that ginormous lunch was pretty amusing. If you that huge qty of anything, I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;d have horrific effects somewhere in the body (hmmm, maybe not meat tho eating meat seems self-limiting to me).  We aren&#8217;t constructed to gorge like that&#8230;period.</p>
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