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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/hard-at-work-in-seattle/#comment-225978</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Mike:  Does exercise improve health as claimed by the Time article, or do healthy people exercise more than unhealthy ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Mike:  Does exercise improve health as claimed by the Time article, or do healthy people exercise more than unhealthy ones?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly the Kitchen Kop</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/hard-at-work-in-seattle/#comment-225634</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly the Kitchen Kop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect, you&#039;re great.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect, you&#8217;re great.  <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Verimius</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/hard-at-work-in-seattle/#comment-225601</link>
		<dc:creator>Verimius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d never heard of blue-john milk before reading about it here. I googled for it, and came up with a cute poem, called &quot;Grand Daddy&quot;, here: http://www.debrashirley.com/poetry.htm

&lt;em&gt;Great!  Thanks.  Loved listening to the poet (poetess?) read her own work.  Made me homesick for the South.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never heard of blue-john milk before reading about it here. I googled for it, and came up with a cute poem, called &#8220;Grand Daddy&#8221;, here: <a href="http://www.debrashirley.com/poetry.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.debrashirley.com/poetry.htm</a></p>
<p><em>Great!  Thanks.  Loved listening to the poet (poetess?) read her own work.  Made me homesick for the South.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly the Kitchen Kop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly the Kitchen Kop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me again.  Can I use the picture of &quot;Mike&#039;s special&quot; in my post?  Also, I can&#039;t find a picture of you to use anywhere - can you help?  :)

Thank you!
Kelly

&lt;em&gt;Yes, you may use the photo of Mike&#039;s Special in your post.  In fact, you can use any of the photos on my blog as long as you give credit.

If you want a photo of me, I guess the best place to go would be my &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/DrEades&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter account&lt;/a&gt;.  You can click on my little photo and enlarge it up to a pretty good sized one.  You can then save it (it&#039;s a jpg) and use.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me again.  Can I use the picture of &#8220;Mike&#8217;s special&#8221; in my post?  Also, I can&#8217;t find a picture of you to use anywhere &#8211; can you help?  <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thank you!<br />
Kelly</p>
<p><em>Yes, you may use the photo of Mike&#8217;s Special in your post.  In fact, you can use any of the photos on my blog as long as you give credit.</p>
<p>If you want a photo of me, I guess the best place to go would be my <a href="http://twitter.com/DrEades" rel="nofollow">Twitter account</a>.  You can click on my little photo and enlarge it up to a pretty good sized one.  You can then save it (it&#8217;s a jpg) and use.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Desmondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desmondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Cloud, writer of the Time article makes no mention of this research
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2640399
entitled:
&quot;Extremely short duration high intensity interval training substantially improves insulin action in young healthy males.&quot; Naturally it references MJ Gibala&#039;s research at Dept of Kinesiology at McMaster University, Ontario. I expect Fred Hahn would be aware of it.

It might, however, have led John Cloud to review his own exercise style and make his experience available to Time&#039;s readers.

It uses Maximum effort training intensities which I suggest could be called Super, so that along with Sprint Interval Training (SIT), High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT)  we may end up with another acronym 
Super High Intesity Interval Training (SHIIT). 

I am currently applying the idea to my home rowing machine, but have yet not reached the goal of six training intervals per session.
Y&#039;all have a nice time now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Cloud, writer of the Time article makes no mention of this research<br />
<a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2640399" rel="nofollow">http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2640399</a><br />
entitled:<br />
&#8220;Extremely short duration high intensity interval training substantially improves insulin action in young healthy males.&#8221; Naturally it references MJ Gibala&#8217;s research at Dept of Kinesiology at McMaster University, Ontario. I expect Fred Hahn would be aware of it.</p>
<p>It might, however, have led John Cloud to review his own exercise style and make his experience available to Time&#8217;s readers.</p>
<p>It uses Maximum effort training intensities which I suggest could be called Super, so that along with Sprint Interval Training (SIT), High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT)  we may end up with another acronym<br />
Super High Intesity Interval Training (SHIIT). </p>
<p>I am currently applying the idea to my home rowing machine, but have yet not reached the goal of six training intervals per session.<br />
Y&#8217;all have a nice time now.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Mentzer was a very bright guy but he had more than his share of issues--crappy nutrition (he wrote about living on small amounts of junk food while dieting before a contest), family history of heart disease, a tendency to stress out, some mental health issues. He was also candid about his history of amphetamine abuse (which no doubt helped with appetite).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Mentzer was a very bright guy but he had more than his share of issues&#8211;crappy nutrition (he wrote about living on small amounts of junk food while dieting before a contest), family history of heart disease, a tendency to stress out, some mental health issues. He was also candid about his history of amphetamine abuse (which no doubt helped with appetite).</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspected the same regarding Mentzer. Thanks for the speedy response, despite being so busy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspected the same regarding Mentzer. Thanks for the speedy response, despite being so busy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, thanks! I used to live in Seattle and loved the pics - you sure know how to find extreme weather. Wow, what a beauty that boat is! I&#039;ve been to Orcas Island many times and it is wonderful.  Can’t wait to find out what you’re working on next month. Also thanks for the pic of Mt. St. Helens. I was in Eastern Washington when it blew and was ‘snowed in’ for several days by the ash cover. It was a very surreal landscape.

I guess I’m still one of those who can’t get my mind around the idea that exercise can’t make you thin. I lost 130 lbs on Protein Power over 18 months while exercising 2-3 times every day (walking, biking, weights-slow burn). I still exercise once a day to maintain. The article from Time you linked said the subjects were told not to change their diet. In my case, I ate the same amount every day regardless of how much I exercised. I seem to have a minimum threshold of how much food makes me feel civilized. So holding food constant, the weight loss would correlate to the amount of exercise. I was on close to zero carbs so there was no such thing as stopping for a caramel latte and muffin.

The thing I really can’t wrap my mind around relating to this is that you’ve mentioned several times that it’s impossible to gain fat on zero carbs. You’ve had patients that at 5,000 calories on zero carbs and didn’t gain weight. So if it’s impossible to gain fat on zero carbs, then during a long exercise session, say a 2 hour walk, you’ll be using body fat for energy. Then afterwards, even if you gorge on meat, you won’t gain. So logically it would seem you would ratchet down, either losing or staying the same. Can you help me wrap my mind around that compared to the Time article and Gary Taubes’ articles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, thanks! I used to live in Seattle and loved the pics &#8211; you sure know how to find extreme weather. Wow, what a beauty that boat is! I&#8217;ve been to Orcas Island many times and it is wonderful.  Can’t wait to find out what you’re working on next month. Also thanks for the pic of Mt. St. Helens. I was in Eastern Washington when it blew and was ‘snowed in’ for several days by the ash cover. It was a very surreal landscape.</p>
<p>I guess I’m still one of those who can’t get my mind around the idea that exercise can’t make you thin. I lost 130 lbs on Protein Power over 18 months while exercising 2-3 times every day (walking, biking, weights-slow burn). I still exercise once a day to maintain. The article from Time you linked said the subjects were told not to change their diet. In my case, I ate the same amount every day regardless of how much I exercised. I seem to have a minimum threshold of how much food makes me feel civilized. So holding food constant, the weight loss would correlate to the amount of exercise. I was on close to zero carbs so there was no such thing as stopping for a caramel latte and muffin.</p>
<p>The thing I really can’t wrap my mind around relating to this is that you’ve mentioned several times that it’s impossible to gain fat on zero carbs. You’ve had patients that at 5,000 calories on zero carbs and didn’t gain weight. So if it’s impossible to gain fat on zero carbs, then during a long exercise session, say a 2 hour walk, you’ll be using body fat for energy. Then afterwards, even if you gorge on meat, you won’t gain. So logically it would seem you would ratchet down, either losing or staying the same. Can you help me wrap my mind around that compared to the Time article and Gary Taubes’ articles?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He had a glass of skim milk so fat free it was almost blue that he poured little bits of into his cereal from time to time.&quot;

My grandmother, a Depression-era Okie, called skim milk &quot;blue john&quot; and said it was only fit for &quot;slopping hogs.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Yep, my elderly relatives called it &#039;blue john&#039; too.  And wouldn&#039;t drink it.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He had a glass of skim milk so fat free it was almost blue that he poured little bits of into his cereal from time to time.&#8221;</p>
<p>My grandmother, a Depression-era Okie, called skim milk &#8220;blue john&#8221; and said it was only fit for &#8220;slopping hogs.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Yep, my elderly relatives called it &#8216;blue john&#8217; too.  And wouldn&#8217;t drink it.</em></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to the Sept 1st revelation. 

Did you ever come across this 2 minute clip where the late bodybuilding legend Mike Mentzer discusses nutrition. He advocated a diet high in carbs. He was a very intelligent man, but he may have missed the mark on this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KKzIAu-ms&amp;feature=related

&lt;em&gt;Mentzer died from cardiovascular disease, brought about perhaps by the excess carbohydrate in his diet and consequent insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia.  Although neither one has been proven in the classical sense to cause heart disease, there is a much, much stronger correlation between even minimally elevated blood sugar (within what are considered normal limits) and elevated lipids.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to the Sept 1st revelation. </p>
<p>Did you ever come across this 2 minute clip where the late bodybuilding legend Mike Mentzer discusses nutrition. He advocated a diet high in carbs. He was a very intelligent man, but he may have missed the mark on this one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KKzIAu-ms&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KKzIAu-ms&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p><em>Mentzer died from cardiovascular disease, brought about perhaps by the excess carbohydrate in his diet and consequent insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia.  Although neither one has been proven in the classical sense to cause heart disease, there is a much, much stronger correlation between even minimally elevated blood sugar (within what are considered normal limits) and elevated lipids.</em></p>
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