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		<title>By: Wes Groleau</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/do-statinators-dream-of-engineered-mice/#comment-243772</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Groleau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;had I had my wits about me, I would have titled the blog post ‘Ship of Foos.’ &quot;

Then you would be a Net-Wit.  :-)

(No need to post this--just teasing you)

P.S. &quot;It’s been a real PITA for us, too.&quot;

Shouldn&#039;t you be using the correct medical term--proctalgia ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;had I had my wits about me, I would have titled the blog post ‘Ship of Foos.’ &#8221;</p>
<p>Then you would be a Net-Wit.  <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(No need to post this&#8211;just teasing you)</p>
<p>P.S. &#8220;It’s been a real PITA for us, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t you be using the correct medical term&#8211;proctalgia ?</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Groleau</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/do-statinators-dream-of-engineered-mice/#comment-243771</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Groleau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;new format causes the print size in the comments to be like the Grinch’s Heart, several sizes to small.&quot;

Odd.  I have FireFox 3.5.5 on Mac OS 10.4.11, eMac screen at 1280x960.  Blog article was unreadable until I bumped font size up four times.  But the comments text was way big, then--and wa approximately right when I dropped back down again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;new format causes the print size in the comments to be like the Grinch’s Heart, several sizes to small.&#8221;</p>
<p>Odd.  I have FireFox 3.5.5 on Mac OS 10.4.11, eMac screen at 1280&#215;960.  Blog article was unreadable until I bumped font size up four times.  But the comments text was way big, then&#8211;and wa approximately right when I dropped back down again.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinkwasser</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/do-statinators-dream-of-engineered-mice/#comment-233075</link>
		<dc:creator>Trinkwasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/browse_thread/thread/f79b6aaa273e46eb/87a3de8d58c79633?hl=en&amp;q=#87a3de8d58c79633

now I can see what was occurring, someone posted a list of essential blogs and he is going through said list insulting the bloggers, Peter at Hyperlipid was first, or was it Jenny at Diabetes Update? Probably Jenny, he likes making misogenistic attacks even more than insulting men.

I can&#039;t remember now, did you also get hit by the High Eveything Diet guy? He self-destructed quite violently on Hyperlipid. Also there seems to be a high level of carbophilic trolling on some diabetes forums, you&#039;d almost think someone was organising it. Either that or it&#039;s a previously undiagnosed symptom of carbohydrate toxicity.

&lt;em&gt;This guy is a real nimrod as evidenced by his saying that on my Twitter page I&#039;m listed as a Bio Physician, then asking what a bio physician is.  Does he not realize that that means Bio as in Biography.  And that the first thing I put was &#039;physician.&#039;  So, my bio says I&#039;m a physician, not a Bio Physician.  This is really telling.

I did get hit by the High Everything Diet guy, who later wrote me via the comments that he had discovered his error when the High Everything Diet didn&#039;t really work for him.  He wrote to apologize.  I didn&#039;t post the comment because I felt like it was more a personal note to me than a public statement.

These people (the first guy, Peter C) must not have lives if they can spend this inordinate amount of time fooling with stuff like this.  As I wrote to someone else, had I had my wits about me, I would have titled the blog post &#039;Ship of Foos.&#039;  That would have really set him off. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear</p>
<p><a href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/browse_thread/thread/f79b6aaa273e46eb/87a3de8d58c79633?hl=en&#038;q=#87a3de8d58c79633" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/browse_thread/thread/f79b6aaa273e46eb/87a3de8d58c79633?hl=en&#038;q=#87a3de8d58c79633</a></p>
<p>now I can see what was occurring, someone posted a list of essential blogs and he is going through said list insulting the bloggers, Peter at Hyperlipid was first, or was it Jenny at Diabetes Update? Probably Jenny, he likes making misogenistic attacks even more than insulting men.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember now, did you also get hit by the High Eveything Diet guy? He self-destructed quite violently on Hyperlipid. Also there seems to be a high level of carbophilic trolling on some diabetes forums, you&#8217;d almost think someone was organising it. Either that or it&#8217;s a previously undiagnosed symptom of carbohydrate toxicity.</p>
<p><em>This guy is a real nimrod as evidenced by his saying that on my Twitter page I&#8217;m listed as a Bio Physician, then asking what a bio physician is.  Does he not realize that that means Bio as in Biography.  And that the first thing I put was &#8216;physician.&#8217;  So, my bio says I&#8217;m a physician, not a Bio Physician.  This is really telling.</p>
<p>I did get hit by the High Everything Diet guy, who later wrote me via the comments that he had discovered his error when the High Everything Diet didn&#8217;t really work for him.  He wrote to apologize.  I didn&#8217;t post the comment because I felt like it was more a personal note to me than a public statement.</p>
<p>These people (the first guy, Peter C) must not have lives if they can spend this inordinate amount of time fooling with stuff like this.  As I wrote to someone else, had I had my wits about me, I would have titled the blog post &#8216;Ship of Foos.&#8217;  That would have really set him off. </em></p>
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		<title>By: Lark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Nobel, what a great idea! What&#039;s the first step? I&#039;d nominate both Dr. Mary Dan and Dr. Mike since they are collaborators.

&lt;em&gt;Please don&#039;t nominate us.  I don&#039;t want to have to prepare the speech that has to be given upon acceptance of the award. :-)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Nobel, what a great idea! What&#8217;s the first step? I&#8217;d nominate both Dr. Mary Dan and Dr. Mike since they are collaborators.</p>
<p><em>Please don&#8217;t nominate us.  I don&#8217;t want to have to prepare the speech that has to be given upon acceptance of the award. <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </em></p>
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		<title>By: Trinkwasser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinkwasser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is a joke, right? Or are you out of your mind? &quot;

The latter. He has been banned from an internet forum twice so is now trolling elsewhere. As a Type 2 who has rapidly progressed onto insulin through his following a low fat diet the result of his opinions speak for themselves rather.

&quot;After my almost four years of pretty continuous blogging, I think I’ve encountered my first internet troll. I had read about them and wondered where they all were on my blog. Now it seems I’ve caught one. And, based on what I’ve read, the best way to get rid of them is ignore them. Or don’t post their comments. Haven’t decided if I’ll take the second option, but I’m definitely taking the first.&quot;

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/index.htm

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

HTH ;)

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for a heads up.  I figured as much.  He struck again moments ago, but I posted and ignored.  Next step will be to delete.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is a joke, right? Or are you out of your mind? &#8221;</p>
<p>The latter. He has been banned from an internet forum twice so is now trolling elsewhere. As a Type 2 who has rapidly progressed onto insulin through his following a low fat diet the result of his opinions speak for themselves rather.</p>
<p>&#8220;After my almost four years of pretty continuous blogging, I think I’ve encountered my first internet troll. I had read about them and wondered where they all were on my blog. Now it seems I’ve caught one. And, based on what I’ve read, the best way to get rid of them is ignore them. Or don’t post their comments. Haven’t decided if I’ll take the second option, but I’m definitely taking the first.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/index.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/" rel="nofollow">http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/</a></p>
<p>HTH <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>Thanks for a heads up.  I figured as much.  He struck again moments ago, but I posted and ignored.  Next step will be to delete.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Peter C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thanks for the support, LC. Had it occurred to me at the time instead of later, I would have titled my blog post about that paper A Ship of Foos. Wonder what kind of heat I would’ve taken for that?&quot;

None more than such an hominum ( or should that be ad feminum ) attack would deserve.
I was disppointed to learn that this is not the first time you have attempted to dismiss research findings because the researchers were young female scientists - there was your  attack of two such scientists as &quot;chicks&quot;, not to be taken seriously, a couple of years ago.

I suppose that having found a &quot;cure&quot; for something in your new book you are going to get nominated for the Nobel Prize for Medicine ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thanks for the support, LC. Had it occurred to me at the time instead of later, I would have titled my blog post about that paper A Ship of Foos. Wonder what kind of heat I would’ve taken for that?&#8221;</p>
<p>None more than such an hominum ( or should that be ad feminum ) attack would deserve.<br />
I was disppointed to learn that this is not the first time you have attempted to dismiss research findings because the researchers were young female scientists &#8211; there was your  attack of two such scientists as &#8220;chicks&#8221;, not to be taken seriously, a couple of years ago.</p>
<p>I suppose that having found a &#8220;cure&#8221; for something in your new book you are going to get nominated for the Nobel Prize for Medicine ?</p>
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		<title>By: LCforevah</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCforevah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Mike

What you wrote on &quot;Dr. X&quot; was spot on and pretty darn polite. I am a pretty active liberal but this kind of over sensitivity and political correctness just chaps my hide.

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the support, LC.  Had it occurred to me at the time instead of later, I would have titled my blog post about that paper A Ship of Foos.  Wonder what kind of heat I would&#039;ve taken for that?&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Mike</p>
<p>What you wrote on &#8220;Dr. X&#8221; was spot on and pretty darn polite. I am a pretty active liberal but this kind of over sensitivity and political correctness just chaps my hide.</p>
<p><em>Thanks for the support, LC.  Had it occurred to me at the time instead of later, I would have titled my blog post about that paper A Ship of Foos.  Wonder what kind of heat I would&#8217;ve taken for that?</em></p>
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		<title>By: Judi</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/do-statinators-dream-of-engineered-mice/#comment-231568</link>
		<dc:creator>Judi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great response, Dr. Eades! 

By the way, I got an early copy of the book, too,
and I&#039;ve read it! Oh, my goodness! It is an
amazing book, and I hope you sell a gazillion
copies! The world will be a better place!

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the kind review of the book.  I&#039;m glad you enjoyed it.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great response, Dr. Eades! </p>
<p>By the way, I got an early copy of the book, too,<br />
and I&#8217;ve read it! Oh, my goodness! It is an<br />
amazing book, and I hope you sell a gazillion<br />
copies! The world will be a better place!</p>
<p><em>Thanks for the kind review of the book.  I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed it.</em></p>
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		<title>By: David MacPhail</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/do-statinators-dream-of-engineered-mice/#comment-231478</link>
		<dc:creator>David MacPhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go again with another study that appears to have been intentionally designed to produce a negative outcome for high fat (low carb) diets.

Do High-fat Diets Make Us Stupid And Lazy? Physical And Memory Abilities Of Rats Affected After 9 Days
ScienceDaily (Sep. 5, 2009) — Rats fed a high-fat diet show a stark reduction in their physical endurance and a decline in their cognitive ability after just nine days, a study by Oxford University researchers has shown.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090811143548.htm

I recently came across another study that concluded that high fat, not high insulin levels, causes insulin resistance suggesting that type II diabetes is caused by eating a low carb, high fat diet. According to the mainstream experts we need a high carbohydrate, high fiber, low fat diet to maintain BG levels, regular bowel movements and body weight. We are also told that saturated fat is bad for us while vegetable oils are healthy. 

Does anyone see a pattern here? Fiber and vegetable oils are all embodied in carbohydrate foods. So any way you slice it a high fiber or a low fat diet is by default a high carbohydrate diet. Thus when an organization such as the ADA finally appears to relent and says that lower carb diets may be beneficial for some diabetics and then in the same sentence states it should have low fat they are playing us.

&lt;em&gt;Very, very true.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again with another study that appears to have been intentionally designed to produce a negative outcome for high fat (low carb) diets.</p>
<p>Do High-fat Diets Make Us Stupid And Lazy? Physical And Memory Abilities Of Rats Affected After 9 Days<br />
ScienceDaily (Sep. 5, 2009) — Rats fed a high-fat diet show a stark reduction in their physical endurance and a decline in their cognitive ability after just nine days, a study by Oxford University researchers has shown.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090811143548.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090811143548.htm</a></p>
<p>I recently came across another study that concluded that high fat, not high insulin levels, causes insulin resistance suggesting that type II diabetes is caused by eating a low carb, high fat diet. According to the mainstream experts we need a high carbohydrate, high fiber, low fat diet to maintain BG levels, regular bowel movements and body weight. We are also told that saturated fat is bad for us while vegetable oils are healthy. </p>
<p>Does anyone see a pattern here? Fiber and vegetable oils are all embodied in carbohydrate foods. So any way you slice it a high fiber or a low fat diet is by default a high carbohydrate diet. Thus when an organization such as the ADA finally appears to relent and says that lower carb diets may be beneficial for some diabetics and then in the same sentence states it should have low fat they are playing us.</p>
<p><em>Very, very true.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Peter C</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cardiovascular-disease/do-statinators-dream-of-engineered-mice/#comment-231411</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 09:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr.Eades
&quot;Agreed. I introduced the term ‘racist’ into the discussion. What you accused me of was using her name (and degrees) to try “to draw attention to her ethnicity and sneer at her qualifications.” Questioning whether I was trying to “draw attention to her ethnicity” is tantamount to questioning whether or not I’m racist. &quot;

No, I didn&#039;t &quot;accuse&quot; you of anything, read my OP , I asked a question!!!
You said your use of her full name ( why not just Dr.Foo or even just Foo if you are being trully academic) and degrees was purely innocent cut and paste and I accept that.
I don&#039;t understand why you and your acolytes are misrepresenting my post. Is there a bit of guilty conscience there about personal abuse of the researcher rather than discussiojn of the research ? ( that&#039;s another reflective question incidentally not an &quot;accusation&quot;)
BTW it is nice to see you now stepping in and defending Dr.Foo against the wilder personal abuse of your followers but YOU lowered the tone and started the personal abuse of Dr. Foo, they merely picked up the baton that you passed to them.
In general Dr.Eades &quot;don&#039;t shoot the messenger&quot;.

&lt;em&gt;After my almost four years of pretty continuous blogging, I think I&#039;ve encountered my first internet troll.  I had read about them and wondered where they all were on my blog.  Now it seems I&#039;ve caught one.  And, based on what I&#039;ve read, the best way to get rid of them is ignore them.  Or don&#039;t post their comments.  Haven&#039;t decided if I&#039;ll take the second option, but I&#039;m definitely taking the first.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr.Eades<br />
&#8220;Agreed. I introduced the term ‘racist’ into the discussion. What you accused me of was using her name (and degrees) to try “to draw attention to her ethnicity and sneer at her qualifications.” Questioning whether I was trying to “draw attention to her ethnicity” is tantamount to questioning whether or not I’m racist. &#8221;</p>
<p>No, I didn&#8217;t &#8220;accuse&#8221; you of anything, read my OP , I asked a question!!!<br />
You said your use of her full name ( why not just Dr.Foo or even just Foo if you are being trully academic) and degrees was purely innocent cut and paste and I accept that.<br />
I don&#8217;t understand why you and your acolytes are misrepresenting my post. Is there a bit of guilty conscience there about personal abuse of the researcher rather than discussiojn of the research ? ( that&#8217;s another reflective question incidentally not an &#8220;accusation&#8221;)<br />
BTW it is nice to see you now stepping in and defending Dr.Foo against the wilder personal abuse of your followers but YOU lowered the tone and started the personal abuse of Dr. Foo, they merely picked up the baton that you passed to them.<br />
In general Dr.Eades &#8220;don&#8217;t shoot the messenger&#8221;.</p>
<p><em>After my almost four years of pretty continuous blogging, I think I&#8217;ve encountered my first internet troll.  I had read about them and wondered where they all were on my blog.  Now it seems I&#8217;ve caught one.  And, based on what I&#8217;ve read, the best way to get rid of them is ignore them.  Or don&#8217;t post their comments.  Haven&#8217;t decided if I&#8217;ll take the second option, but I&#8217;m definitely taking the first.</em></p>
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