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		<title>By: Tanner</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-2/#comment-85518</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, bravo.  What a brilliant analogy of the rampant problems caused by incorrectly identifying cause-and-effect relationships from observational studies (ice cream and MS).  I greatly enjoyed the article.

Now if only we could teach the fallacies behind such reasoning strategies to all the &quot;global warming&quot; nuts running amuck...

&lt;em&gt;Glad you enjoyed the post.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, bravo.  What a brilliant analogy of the rampant problems caused by incorrectly identifying cause-and-effect relationships from observational studies (ice cream and MS).  I greatly enjoyed the article.</p>
<p>Now if only we could teach the fallacies behind such reasoning strategies to all the &#8220;global warming&#8221; nuts running amuck&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Glad you enjoyed the post.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Gaelen</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-2/#comment-50535</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Mike...I know I&#039;m commenting on an older blog post, but I&#039;ve been pretty slammed lately at work. CRC is one of those topics that always catches my eye--after all, I&#039;m one of the fraction of 1 percent (it&#039;s 150,000 people btw) diagnosed each year. Worse, when diagnosed, I was already in stage IV with extensive mets to my liver, and everyone expected that I&#039;d be one of the 58,000 who die each year from the disease. Maybe CRC gets more play because those of use who have it and have lived to tell the tale are talking about it more and more--because while it&#039;s nearly completely preventable by early screening, most people aren&#039;t screened early enough or often enough.

Anyway--I never ate red meat more than a couple of times per week, even after I started controlling carbs in 2002. I&#039;m more of a fish and poultry girl--and I was a vegetarian for years. Still, as a Stage IV CRC survivor, I can promise you that even when you think you *know* what you should eat, studies like the one you&#039;re examining here make you doubt everything that you know. You&#039;re staring death in the face, and unfortunately with CRC, death wins a *lot.* You question everything. And studies like this one, BS or not, are still scary in some small part of your brain.

Sept. 1 was my 18-month anniversary in complete remission--after 39 cycles of chemo, two surgeries, and all kinds of recovery time. I am a statistic...but the good kind. People who survive to the point I have aren&#039;t even a whole number percentage in the stats for this disease. One of the vets I work with has always maintained that I&#039;m too ornery to let cancer kill me without a fight. Maybe.

At one point I&#039;d gained back all of the weight I&#039;d lost controlling carbs--and more--because of the steroids given as part of one of my chemo regimens. I&#039;m down 40 lbs of that weight, but still am 37lbs away from what I weighed in 2004 when I was diagnosed. Exercise after two abdominal surgeries, liver resection, a permanent ostomy and the development of two hernias isn&#039;t and can&#039;t be the same as it was B.C. (before cancer.) We aren&#039;t all Lance Armstrong... ;-)

And for that matter, my diet can&#039;t be quite the same Protein Power that it was B.C., although I still focus on getting adequate protein and controlling carbs. Now, however, many low carb veggies and most raw veggies and fruits are things I can&#039;t tolerate at all. Fat consumption (except mayonnaise) doesn&#039;t bother me--but I can only eat small quantities of most proteins at one time. Protein shakes are my friends. ;-) And I can&#039;t eat at all within two hours of doing any type of exercise, because of the hernias.

Anyway...glad to see you reviewing this research, and exposing it for what it is.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Gaelen--

What a nightmare time you&#039;ve had of it.  I&#039;m really glad to hear you&#039;re doing so well.  Thanks very much for all your work and help with the bulletin board group.

Thanks for writing.

Best--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Mike&#8230;I know I&#8217;m commenting on an older blog post, but I&#8217;ve been pretty slammed lately at work. CRC is one of those topics that always catches my eye&#8211;after all, I&#8217;m one of the fraction of 1 percent (it&#8217;s 150,000 people btw) diagnosed each year. Worse, when diagnosed, I was already in stage IV with extensive mets to my liver, and everyone expected that I&#8217;d be one of the 58,000 who die each year from the disease. Maybe CRC gets more play because those of use who have it and have lived to tell the tale are talking about it more and more&#8211;because while it&#8217;s nearly completely preventable by early screening, most people aren&#8217;t screened early enough or often enough.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8211;I never ate red meat more than a couple of times per week, even after I started controlling carbs in 2002. I&#8217;m more of a fish and poultry girl&#8211;and I was a vegetarian for years. Still, as a Stage IV CRC survivor, I can promise you that even when you think you *know* what you should eat, studies like the one you&#8217;re examining here make you doubt everything that you know. You&#8217;re staring death in the face, and unfortunately with CRC, death wins a *lot.* You question everything. And studies like this one, BS or not, are still scary in some small part of your brain.</p>
<p>Sept. 1 was my 18-month anniversary in complete remission&#8211;after 39 cycles of chemo, two surgeries, and all kinds of recovery time. I am a statistic&#8230;but the good kind. People who survive to the point I have aren&#8217;t even a whole number percentage in the stats for this disease. One of the vets I work with has always maintained that I&#8217;m too ornery to let cancer kill me without a fight. Maybe.</p>
<p>At one point I&#8217;d gained back all of the weight I&#8217;d lost controlling carbs&#8211;and more&#8211;because of the steroids given as part of one of my chemo regimens. I&#8217;m down 40 lbs of that weight, but still am 37lbs away from what I weighed in 2004 when I was diagnosed. Exercise after two abdominal surgeries, liver resection, a permanent ostomy and the development of two hernias isn&#8217;t and can&#8217;t be the same as it was B.C. (before cancer.) We aren&#8217;t all Lance Armstrong&#8230; <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And for that matter, my diet can&#8217;t be quite the same Protein Power that it was B.C., although I still focus on getting adequate protein and controlling carbs. Now, however, many low carb veggies and most raw veggies and fruits are things I can&#8217;t tolerate at all. Fat consumption (except mayonnaise) doesn&#8217;t bother me&#8211;but I can only eat small quantities of most proteins at one time. Protein shakes are my friends. <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  And I can&#8217;t eat at all within two hours of doing any type of exercise, because of the hernias.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;glad to see you reviewing this research, and exposing it for what it is.</p>
<p><em>Hi Gaelen&#8211;</p>
<p>What a nightmare time you&#8217;ve had of it.  I&#8217;m really glad to hear you&#8217;re doing so well.  Thanks very much for all your work and help with the bulletin board group.</p>
<p>Thanks for writing.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Cochrane report on low-carb diets &#124; Health &#38; Nutrition by Michael R. Eades, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-2/#comment-50054</link>
		<dc:creator>Cochrane report on low-carb diets &#124; Health &#38; Nutrition by Michael R. Eades, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cancer and the so-called Western dietary pattern that I&#8217;ve been posting on lately (click here, here and here for the posts) is a travesty for a couple of reasons. First, it&#8217;s a travesty [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cancer and the so-called Western dietary pattern that I&#8217;ve been posting on lately (click here, here and here for the posts) is a travesty for a couple of reasons. First, it&#8217;s a travesty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More on red meat and colon cancer &#124; Health &#38; Nutrition by Michael R. Eades, M.D.</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-2/#comment-49760</link>
		<dc:creator>More on red meat and colon cancer &#124; Health &#38; Nutrition by Michael R. Eades, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that this is the last post on the Western diet and colon cancer recurrence study (that I&#8217;ve posted on twice already), but I want to use this travesty to make just a couple of more points. And [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that this is the last post on the Western diet and colon cancer recurrence study (that I&#8217;ve posted on twice already), but I want to use this travesty to make just a couple of more points. And [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley Momberger</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-2/#comment-49661</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley Momberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend who did his Master&#039;s thesis on the use of data mining techniques to determine characteristics of pancreatic cancer outcomes. (http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~ruiz/KDDRG/dm_for_medical_analysis.html for the abstract on the research)  His research was presented more than a year ago, and did in fact conclude that using more advanced methods provided better answers that traditional regression.  With that in mind, these researchers can&#039;t claim that their slipshod statistical methods are the best available for interpreting the data.  Really, in my eyes they have failed to even qualify for Hanlon&#039;s Razor; this is malice on their part.

&lt;em&gt;I agree.  And I love Hanlon&#039;s Razor.  I had forgotten about it until you mentioned it.  It will again become part of my armamentarium to be used to savage these kinds of studies.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend who did his Master&#8217;s thesis on the use of data mining techniques to determine characteristics of pancreatic cancer outcomes. (<a href="http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~ruiz/KDDRG/dm_for_medical_analysis.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~ruiz/KDDRG/dm_for_medical_analysis.html</a> for the abstract on the research)  His research was presented more than a year ago, and did in fact conclude that using more advanced methods provided better answers that traditional regression.  With that in mind, these researchers can&#8217;t claim that their slipshod statistical methods are the best available for interpreting the data.  Really, in my eyes they have failed to even qualify for Hanlon&#8217;s Razor; this is malice on their part.</p>
<p><em>I agree.  And I love Hanlon&#8217;s Razor.  I had forgotten about it until you mentioned it.  It will again become part of my armamentarium to be used to savage these kinds of studies.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Judy Barnes Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-2/#comment-49542</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Barnes Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Dr. Mike. Sorry about the nonfunctioning links in the comment I sent earlier. I think it was the punctuation after the addresses that caused the problem. I&#039;m resending the whole thing again without the punctuation marks. Hope it works this time.  (The post had some extra spaces that were not in what I sent. I don&#039;t know why that happened.)

Original Comment:

Hi Dr. Mike. I posted this response on my Web site after an article linking breast cancer to red meat consumption came out back in March. I thought it might be relavant to the current discussion.

Judy Barnes Baker
Carb Wars; Sugar is the New Fat
www.carbwarscookbook.com

Red Meat and Cancer
March 30, 2007

“Breast Cancer is another reason to limit beef,” reads the headline on an MSNBC story dated March 16, 2007. Similar headlines were featured in various newspapers in response to the release of a study analysis that suggested a link between red meat consumption and breast cancer. Researchers found no link between overall cancer rates, but when they looked at only those cancers that were dependent on estrogen and progesterone, they found that women who ate one to one and a half servings of red meat a day doubled their risk of developing breast cancer when compared to those who ate three servings or less per week. Most of the news articles advised replacing meat with plant foods in light of the findings.

The researchers offered several possible explanations to explain the link between red meat and cancer: high-heat cooking methods, high fat, and, of course, the universal scapegoat, saturated fat. Conspicuously missing from the list of suspects: None of them mentioned the fact that meat producers routinely implant animals with hormones. Since it was only hormone-dependent cancers that showed a relationship to red meat, it seems like a no-brainer to check out that connection before pointing the finger of blame. 
 
It is illegal to use hormones in pork or poultry, but cattle can be implanted with natural and synthetic estrogen and progesterone from the time they are weaned until the day they are slaughtered. The pharmaceutical companies advertise that hormone use will provide a return of five dollars for every dollar spent by promoting faster weight gain on less feed. Dairy cattle are injected with rBGH, a genetically engineered hormone, to boost milk production. (Don’t read the next two sentences if you are squeamish.) This is a question on the Q&amp;A page of the Posilac® (rbST) Web site: “What about the increased &quot;pus&quot; in the milk from cows treated with rbST?” The answer: “These cells are necessary to fight infection, and the increase noted in some POSILAC-treated cows likely reflects the slight increase in mastitis incidence and mammary cells which slough off during infection.” (OK, you can come back now.) The European Union refused to allow the use of rBGH because of health concerns about breast and prostate cancer. Most other countries have banned its use. The EU has also banned the importation of American beef since 1988 because of concerns that the extra estrogens would cause an increase in breast cancer and that hormone-laden animal waste in the run-off from farms would pollute streams and damage wildlife.

Although little research has been done on the effects of hormone use in meat and dairy products, one recent study discovered a correlation between hormones in beef and infertility. The sperm count of a group of young men was found to be inversely related to the amount of beef eaten by their mothers when they were pregnant. Read about the study from the March 28th Journal of Human Reproduction, here:
http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem068v1 .
 
 A second article in the same issue, titled Could hormone residues be involved?, 
http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem092v1 , brings up some troubling possibilities. The author suggests that exposure to hormonally active chemicals could work epigenetically rather than by DNA mutation to cause disruptions at very low concentrations. Such changes could be inherited by future generations. The US and Canada based their approval of the use of such hormones primarily on research about the mutagenic activity of the hormones. 

The FDA has actively sided with the pharmaceutical industry to prevent label disclosure of hormone use in dairy products. You may have noticed that when a label says “No artificial growth hormones,” it will also say: “FDA states: No significant difference has been shown between milk derived from rbST-treated cows and non-rbST-treated cows.” Any dairy that makes such claims must make a plan and maintain records available for inspection by regulatory agencies to document the accuracy of the label. 

Label disclosure of hormone use in meat is not required. The FDA has taken the position that labels only have to tell us what we need to know; and they get to decide what that is. It has been estimated that hormones are used in 80% of the beef raised in the US. If the package doesn’t say “no artificial hormones,” you must check with the company to find out if they were used. For now, if you like your position at the top of the food chain but don’t want a side serving of sex hormones, you must look for packages marked “No artificial hormones” or “USDA-certified organic” on beef, lamb, and dairy products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Dr. Mike. Sorry about the nonfunctioning links in the comment I sent earlier. I think it was the punctuation after the addresses that caused the problem. I&#8217;m resending the whole thing again without the punctuation marks. Hope it works this time.  (The post had some extra spaces that were not in what I sent. I don&#8217;t know why that happened.)</p>
<p>Original Comment:</p>
<p>Hi Dr. Mike. I posted this response on my Web site after an article linking breast cancer to red meat consumption came out back in March. I thought it might be relavant to the current discussion.</p>
<p>Judy Barnes Baker<br />
Carb Wars; Sugar is the New Fat<br />
<a href="http://www.carbwarscookbook.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.carbwarscookbook.com</a></p>
<p>Red Meat and Cancer<br />
March 30, 2007</p>
<p>“Breast Cancer is another reason to limit beef,” reads the headline on an MSNBC story dated March 16, 2007. Similar headlines were featured in various newspapers in response to the release of a study analysis that suggested a link between red meat consumption and breast cancer. Researchers found no link between overall cancer rates, but when they looked at only those cancers that were dependent on estrogen and progesterone, they found that women who ate one to one and a half servings of red meat a day doubled their risk of developing breast cancer when compared to those who ate three servings or less per week. Most of the news articles advised replacing meat with plant foods in light of the findings.</p>
<p>The researchers offered several possible explanations to explain the link between red meat and cancer: high-heat cooking methods, high fat, and, of course, the universal scapegoat, saturated fat. Conspicuously missing from the list of suspects: None of them mentioned the fact that meat producers routinely implant animals with hormones. Since it was only hormone-dependent cancers that showed a relationship to red meat, it seems like a no-brainer to check out that connection before pointing the finger of blame. </p>
<p>It is illegal to use hormones in pork or poultry, but cattle can be implanted with natural and synthetic estrogen and progesterone from the time they are weaned until the day they are slaughtered. The pharmaceutical companies advertise that hormone use will provide a return of five dollars for every dollar spent by promoting faster weight gain on less feed. Dairy cattle are injected with rBGH, a genetically engineered hormone, to boost milk production. (Don’t read the next two sentences if you are squeamish.) This is a question on the Q&amp;A page of the Posilac® (rbST) Web site: “What about the increased &#8220;pus&#8221; in the milk from cows treated with rbST?” The answer: “These cells are necessary to fight infection, and the increase noted in some POSILAC-treated cows likely reflects the slight increase in mastitis incidence and mammary cells which slough off during infection.” (OK, you can come back now.) The European Union refused to allow the use of rBGH because of health concerns about breast and prostate cancer. Most other countries have banned its use. The EU has also banned the importation of American beef since 1988 because of concerns that the extra estrogens would cause an increase in breast cancer and that hormone-laden animal waste in the run-off from farms would pollute streams and damage wildlife.</p>
<p>Although little research has been done on the effects of hormone use in meat and dairy products, one recent study discovered a correlation between hormones in beef and infertility. The sperm count of a group of young men was found to be inversely related to the amount of beef eaten by their mothers when they were pregnant. Read about the study from the March 28th Journal of Human Reproduction, here:<br />
<a href="http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem068v1" rel="nofollow">http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem068v1</a> .</p>
<p> A second article in the same issue, titled Could hormone residues be involved?,<br />
<a href="http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem092v1" rel="nofollow">http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem092v1</a> , brings up some troubling possibilities. The author suggests that exposure to hormonally active chemicals could work epigenetically rather than by DNA mutation to cause disruptions at very low concentrations. Such changes could be inherited by future generations. The US and Canada based their approval of the use of such hormones primarily on research about the mutagenic activity of the hormones. </p>
<p>The FDA has actively sided with the pharmaceutical industry to prevent label disclosure of hormone use in dairy products. You may have noticed that when a label says “No artificial growth hormones,” it will also say: “FDA states: No significant difference has been shown between milk derived from rbST-treated cows and non-rbST-treated cows.” Any dairy that makes such claims must make a plan and maintain records available for inspection by regulatory agencies to document the accuracy of the label. </p>
<p>Label disclosure of hormone use in meat is not required. The FDA has taken the position that labels only have to tell us what we need to know; and they get to decide what that is. It has been estimated that hormones are used in 80% of the beef raised in the US. If the package doesn’t say “no artificial hormones,” you must check with the company to find out if they were used. For now, if you like your position at the top of the food chain but don’t want a side serving of sex hormones, you must look for packages marked “No artificial hormones” or “USDA-certified organic” on beef, lamb, and dairy products.</p>
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		<title>By: gallier2</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-1/#comment-49422</link>
		<dc:creator>gallier2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 07:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should not forget that the Warburg hypothese (established in the 1920s) was recently confirmed on different levels. Cancer, by this theory, is a metabolic disorder in the respiratory chain of the cells and trying to stop tumor grow, while eating many carbs is like trying to stop a fire by pouring gasoline on it.

&lt;em&gt;True.  This is one of the reasons a ketogenic diet is being looked at so seriously as an anti-cancer diet.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should not forget that the Warburg hypothese (established in the 1920s) was recently confirmed on different levels. Cancer, by this theory, is a metabolic disorder in the respiratory chain of the cells and trying to stop tumor grow, while eating many carbs is like trying to stop a fire by pouring gasoline on it.</p>
<p><em>True.  This is one of the reasons a ketogenic diet is being looked at so seriously as an anti-cancer diet.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-1/#comment-49307</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>by the way, Barry Groves did a similar critique of an earlier study of colon cancer and red meat here:

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/red-meat-colon-cancer.html

&lt;em&gt;Hi Chris--

Thanks for the link.

Cheers--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way, Barry Groves did a similar critique of an earlier study of colon cancer and red meat here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/red-meat-colon-cancer.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/red-meat-colon-cancer.html</a></p>
<p><em>Hi Chris&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for the link.</p>
<p>Cheers&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/cancer/colon-cancer-and-red-meat/comment-page-1/#comment-49214</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m pretty certain that diet does play a role in colon and other cancers, just not the diet the researchers who did this study are trying to blame.&quot;

Exactly.  I feel the same way which is why when I read about studies such as this one, I really see red.

Thnak you so much for taking the time to post about studies like this and pick them apart for your readers.  To say that I&#039;m a math dunce would be an understatement, but you make it easy for me to understand what&#039;s going on with the numbers involved. Since I&#039;ve started reading your blog, I&#039;ve really learned what to look for when news blurbs about the results of studies are published.  Sadly, those around me swallow them hook, line and sinker without pausing to think about what is actually being said.  A previous reader commented about the lack of critical thinking skills that most people have these days.  So very true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m pretty certain that diet does play a role in colon and other cancers, just not the diet the researchers who did this study are trying to blame.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly.  I feel the same way which is why when I read about studies such as this one, I really see red.</p>
<p>Thnak you so much for taking the time to post about studies like this and pick them apart for your readers.  To say that I&#8217;m a math dunce would be an understatement, but you make it easy for me to understand what&#8217;s going on with the numbers involved. Since I&#8217;ve started reading your blog, I&#8217;ve really learned what to look for when news blurbs about the results of studies are published.  Sadly, those around me swallow them hook, line and sinker without pausing to think about what is actually being said.  A previous reader commented about the lack of critical thinking skills that most people have these days.  So very true.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Barnes Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Barnes Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dr. Mike. I posted this response on my Web site after an article linking breast cancer to red meat consumption came out back in March. I thought it might be relavent to the current discussion.  
Judy Barnes Baker
&quot;Carb Wars; Sugar is the New Fat&quot;
www.carbwarscookbook.com

Red Meat and Cancer
March 30, 2007

“Breast Cancer is another reason to limit beef,” reads the headline on an MSNBC story dated March 16, 2007. Similar headlines were featured in various newspapers in response to the release of a study analysis that suggested a link between red meat consumption and breast cancer. Researchers found no link between overall cancer rates, but when they looked at only those cancers that were dependent on estrogen and progesterone, they found that women who ate one to one and a half servings of red meat a day doubled their risk of developing breast cancer when compared to those who ate three servings or 
less per week. Most of the news articles advised replacing meat with plant foods in light of the findings.

The researchers offered several possible explanations to explain the link between red meat and cancer: high-heat cooking methods, high fat, and, of course, the universal scapegoat, saturated fat. Conspicuously missing from the list of suspects: the fact that meat producers routinely implant animals with hormones. Since it was only hormone-dependent cancers that 
showed a relationship to red meat, it seems like a no-brainer to check out that connection before pointing the finger of blame.

It is illegal to use hormones in pork or poultry, but cattle can be implanted with natural and synthetic estrogen and progesterone from the time they are weaned until the day they are slaughtered. The pharmaceutical companies advertise that hormone use will provide a return of five dollars for every dollar spent by promoting faster weight gain on less feed. Dairy cattle are injected with rBGH, a genetically engineered hormone, to boost milk production. (Don’t read the next two sentences if you are squeamish.) This is a question from the Q&amp;A page of the Posilac® (rbST) Web site: “What about the increased &quot;pus&quot; in the 
milk from cows treated with rbST?” The answer: “These cells are necessary to fight infection, and the increase noted in some POSILAC-treated cows likely reflects the slight increase in mastitis incidence and mammary cells which slough off during infection.” (OK, you can come back now.) The European Union refused to allow the use of rBGH because of health concerns about breast and prostate cancer. Most other countries have banned its use. The EU has also banned the importation of American beef since 1988 because of concerns that the extra estrogens would cause an increase in breast cancer and that 
hormone-laden animal waste in the run-off from farms would pollute streams and damage wildlife.

Although little research has been done on the effects of hormone use in meat and dairy products, one recent study discovered a correlation between hormones in beef and infertility. The sperm count of a group of young men was found to be inversely related to the amount of beef eaten by their mothers when they were pregnant. Read about the study from the March 28th Journal of Human Reproduction here:
http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem068v1.

A second article in the same issue, titled Could hormone residues be involved?,
http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem092v1, brings up some troubling possibilities. The US and Canada based their approval of the use of such hormones primarily on research about the mutagenic activity of the hormones. The author suggests that exposure to hormonally active chemicals could work epigenetically rather than by DNA mutation to cause disruptions at much lower concentrations. Such changes could be inherited by future generations.

The FDA has actively sided with the pharmaceutical industry to prevent label disclosure of hormone use in dairy products. You may have noticed that when a label says “No artificial growth hormones,” it will also say: “FDA states: No significant difference has been shown between milk derived from rbST-treated cows and non-rbST-treated cows.”

Label disclosure of hormone use in meat is not required. The FDA has taken the position that labels only have to tell us what we need to know; and they get to decide what that is. It has been estimated that hormones are used in 80% of the beef raised in the US. If the package doesn’t say “no artificial hormones,” you must check with the company to find out if they were used. For now, if you like your position at the top of the food chain but don’t want a side serving of sex hormones, you must look for packages marked “No artificial hormones” or “USDA-certified organic” on beef, lamb, and dairy products.

&lt;em&gt;Hi Judy--

Thanks for the excellent discussion.  The links to the studies didn&#039;t work for me, though.

Best--

MRE&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Mike. I posted this response on my Web site after an article linking breast cancer to red meat consumption came out back in March. I thought it might be relavent to the current discussion.<br />
Judy Barnes Baker<br />
&#8220;Carb Wars; Sugar is the New Fat&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.carbwarscookbook.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.carbwarscookbook.com</a></p>
<p>Red Meat and Cancer<br />
March 30, 2007</p>
<p>“Breast Cancer is another reason to limit beef,” reads the headline on an MSNBC story dated March 16, 2007. Similar headlines were featured in various newspapers in response to the release of a study analysis that suggested a link between red meat consumption and breast cancer. Researchers found no link between overall cancer rates, but when they looked at only those cancers that were dependent on estrogen and progesterone, they found that women who ate one to one and a half servings of red meat a day doubled their risk of developing breast cancer when compared to those who ate three servings or<br />
less per week. Most of the news articles advised replacing meat with plant foods in light of the findings.</p>
<p>The researchers offered several possible explanations to explain the link between red meat and cancer: high-heat cooking methods, high fat, and, of course, the universal scapegoat, saturated fat. Conspicuously missing from the list of suspects: the fact that meat producers routinely implant animals with hormones. Since it was only hormone-dependent cancers that<br />
showed a relationship to red meat, it seems like a no-brainer to check out that connection before pointing the finger of blame.</p>
<p>It is illegal to use hormones in pork or poultry, but cattle can be implanted with natural and synthetic estrogen and progesterone from the time they are weaned until the day they are slaughtered. The pharmaceutical companies advertise that hormone use will provide a return of five dollars for every dollar spent by promoting faster weight gain on less feed. Dairy cattle are injected with rBGH, a genetically engineered hormone, to boost milk production. (Don’t read the next two sentences if you are squeamish.) This is a question from the Q&amp;A page of the Posilac® (rbST) Web site: “What about the increased &#8220;pus&#8221; in the<br />
milk from cows treated with rbST?” The answer: “These cells are necessary to fight infection, and the increase noted in some POSILAC-treated cows likely reflects the slight increase in mastitis incidence and mammary cells which slough off during infection.” (OK, you can come back now.) The European Union refused to allow the use of rBGH because of health concerns about breast and prostate cancer. Most other countries have banned its use. The EU has also banned the importation of American beef since 1988 because of concerns that the extra estrogens would cause an increase in breast cancer and that<br />
hormone-laden animal waste in the run-off from farms would pollute streams and damage wildlife.</p>
<p>Although little research has been done on the effects of hormone use in meat and dairy products, one recent study discovered a correlation between hormones in beef and infertility. The sperm count of a group of young men was found to be inversely related to the amount of beef eaten by their mothers when they were pregnant. Read about the study from the March 28th Journal of Human Reproduction here:<br />
<a href="http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem068v1" rel="nofollow">http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem068v1</a>.</p>
<p>A second article in the same issue, titled Could hormone residues be involved?,<br />
<a href="http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem092v1" rel="nofollow">http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/dem092v1</a>, brings up some troubling possibilities. The US and Canada based their approval of the use of such hormones primarily on research about the mutagenic activity of the hormones. The author suggests that exposure to hormonally active chemicals could work epigenetically rather than by DNA mutation to cause disruptions at much lower concentrations. Such changes could be inherited by future generations.</p>
<p>The FDA has actively sided with the pharmaceutical industry to prevent label disclosure of hormone use in dairy products. You may have noticed that when a label says “No artificial growth hormones,” it will also say: “FDA states: No significant difference has been shown between milk derived from rbST-treated cows and non-rbST-treated cows.”</p>
<p>Label disclosure of hormone use in meat is not required. The FDA has taken the position that labels only have to tell us what we need to know; and they get to decide what that is. It has been estimated that hormones are used in 80% of the beef raised in the US. If the package doesn’t say “no artificial hormones,” you must check with the company to find out if they were used. For now, if you like your position at the top of the food chain but don’t want a side serving of sex hormones, you must look for packages marked “No artificial hormones” or “USDA-certified organic” on beef, lamb, and dairy products.</p>
<p><em>Hi Judy&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for the excellent discussion.  The links to the studies didn&#8217;t work for me, though.</p>
<p>Best&#8211;</p>
<p>MRE</em></p>
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