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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/ads-on-the-edge/high-fructose-corn-syrup-fights-back/#comment-195084</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe I used to drink - on average - 2L of Pepsi a day, before I went zero carb. The horror.

I wonder how many of the inches lost from my waistline was from my liver shrinking. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I used to drink &#8211; on average &#8211; 2L of Pepsi a day, before I went zero carb. The horror.</p>
<p>I wonder how many of the inches lost from my waistline was from my liver shrinking. <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: low-carber</title>
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		<dc:creator>low-carber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dr. Eades: Lots of food out there in the supermarket shelves have corn-starch, and specially corn-syrup.  For instance i love coffee a lot, and I&#039;ve been drinking my coffee with coffee-creamer. But i&#039;ve noticed that whenever i drink coffee with coffee-creamer in it, i get bloated and i feel a fattening effect of carbohydrates like if i had a potatoes or sweets. And damn, corn syrup is an evil food indeed, specially for those of us who are carbohydrate sensitive and for the majority of people who are trying to lose weight, but even though they walk and run hours a day cannot lose weight because of the *damned* carbohydrates hidden in most of our foods that keep our insulin levels real high.

By the way, i also wanted to tell you that i ate so much in thanksgiving, i had a lot of carbohydrates and cake. However i won&#039;t celebrate christmas day, i just won&#039;t be part of the gluttony. I&#039;ve noticed that engaging in binge-eating is such a short-lived pleasure. I think that the pleasure of eating low in carbs and in calories is a *long lived* pleasure, compared with the hedonic short lived pleasure of binge-eating.  specially when we look ourselves in the mirror.  And as the philosopher Nietzsche said: What is good? All that makes you powerful. What is bad? All that makes us weak.  And beauty makes us powerful.

Take care

&lt;em&gt;Binge eating is indeed a short-lived pleasure.  Too much of it can lead to a short-lived life.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dr. Eades: Lots of food out there in the supermarket shelves have corn-starch, and specially corn-syrup.  For instance i love coffee a lot, and I&#8217;ve been drinking my coffee with coffee-creamer. But i&#8217;ve noticed that whenever i drink coffee with coffee-creamer in it, i get bloated and i feel a fattening effect of carbohydrates like if i had a potatoes or sweets. And damn, corn syrup is an evil food indeed, specially for those of us who are carbohydrate sensitive and for the majority of people who are trying to lose weight, but even though they walk and run hours a day cannot lose weight because of the *damned* carbohydrates hidden in most of our foods that keep our insulin levels real high.</p>
<p>By the way, i also wanted to tell you that i ate so much in thanksgiving, i had a lot of carbohydrates and cake. However i won&#8217;t celebrate christmas day, i just won&#8217;t be part of the gluttony. I&#8217;ve noticed that engaging in binge-eating is such a short-lived pleasure. I think that the pleasure of eating low in carbs and in calories is a *long lived* pleasure, compared with the hedonic short lived pleasure of binge-eating.  specially when we look ourselves in the mirror.  And as the philosopher Nietzsche said: What is good? All that makes you powerful. What is bad? All that makes us weak.  And beauty makes us powerful.</p>
<p>Take care</p>
<p><em>Binge eating is indeed a short-lived pleasure.  Too much of it can lead to a short-lived life.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Kron</title>
		<link>http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/ads-on-the-edge/high-fructose-corn-syrup-fights-back/#comment-194368</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Kron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dr. Eades~

I&#039;m a very new reader of your blog. I&#039;m concerned about agave as I had understood it to be a low glycemic sweetener? (I&#039;m insulin resistant). My main use of added sweeteners is for my tea. I tend to use either agave or erythritol as I don&#039;t care for the taste of Splenda and I gave up diet Pepsi (and thus my only source of aspartame) about a year ago. 

So, now that you are talking about fructose in the agave, I&#039;m concerned, as it seems that you are saying either that it is not low GI afterall, or that even if it is low GI, that agave has something else about it that makes it not a good choice for those who watch their weight and are concerned about their health. Thanks in advance for any further enlightenment you can offer.

&lt;em&gt;Welcome to the blog.  Glad to have you.

Agave nectar or syrup is about 90 percent fructose.  Fructose is a sugar with a low glycemic index, meaning that it doesn&#039;t raise blood sugar much.  But the reason fructose doesn&#039;t raise blood sugar is that it basically converts to fat in the liver, which is not a good thing.  If researchers want to make lab animals develop the insulin resistance and the metabolic syndrome, they feed them fructose.  Fructose in large doses is the last thing you want to eat if you are insulin resistant.

Having said that, I can also say that fructose has the sort of paradoxical effect of actually helping the body deal with glucose, but only if the fructose is consumed in very small amounts, say, a few grams.  Tiny amounts of fructose seem to prime the body to better use glucose.

For each teaspoon of agave you are putting in your tea, you are getting about 3.6 grams of fructose.  If you are drinking one cup of tea per day with a teaspoon of agave, you&#039;re probably not getting enough to matter.  But if you are using a couple of teaspoons and drinking multiple cups of tea throughout the day, you are more than likely getting way too much fructose.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Eades~</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a very new reader of your blog. I&#8217;m concerned about agave as I had understood it to be a low glycemic sweetener? (I&#8217;m insulin resistant). My main use of added sweeteners is for my tea. I tend to use either agave or erythritol as I don&#8217;t care for the taste of Splenda and I gave up diet Pepsi (and thus my only source of aspartame) about a year ago. </p>
<p>So, now that you are talking about fructose in the agave, I&#8217;m concerned, as it seems that you are saying either that it is not low GI afterall, or that even if it is low GI, that agave has something else about it that makes it not a good choice for those who watch their weight and are concerned about their health. Thanks in advance for any further enlightenment you can offer.</p>
<p><em>Welcome to the blog.  Glad to have you.</p>
<p>Agave nectar or syrup is about 90 percent fructose.  Fructose is a sugar with a low glycemic index, meaning that it doesn&#8217;t raise blood sugar much.  But the reason fructose doesn&#8217;t raise blood sugar is that it basically converts to fat in the liver, which is not a good thing.  If researchers want to make lab animals develop the insulin resistance and the metabolic syndrome, they feed them fructose.  Fructose in large doses is the last thing you want to eat if you are insulin resistant.</p>
<p>Having said that, I can also say that fructose has the sort of paradoxical effect of actually helping the body deal with glucose, but only if the fructose is consumed in very small amounts, say, a few grams.  Tiny amounts of fructose seem to prime the body to better use glucose.</p>
<p>For each teaspoon of agave you are putting in your tea, you are getting about 3.6 grams of fructose.  If you are drinking one cup of tea per day with a teaspoon of agave, you&#8217;re probably not getting enough to matter.  But if you are using a couple of teaspoons and drinking multiple cups of tea throughout the day, you are more than likely getting way too much fructose.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Dana Carpender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana Carpender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Like sugar, HFCS is fine in moderation!&quot;  Yeah, now define &quot;moderation.&quot;  If you drank one 12 ounce soda a day and ate no other sugar at all -- no ketchup, no canned baked beans -- nothing -- you&#039;d be getting something like ten times the sugar our ancestors were eating a couple of hundred years ago.  So what&#039;s &quot;moderation?&quot;  My sugar intake *is* moderate, which is to say, I don&#039;t refuse to use stuff like Worcestershire because it has sugar in it, but that&#039;s about the extent of my sugar consumption.  It&#039;s the American idea of &quot;moderation&quot; that is *wildly* immoderate.  

BTW, Dr. Mike, I smiled at this: &quot;However, since I eat no sweeteners throughout the day, someone else has to eat double to keep the averages the same.&quot;  For years I&#039;ve been telling people &quot;The average American eats 152 pounds of sugar per year -- and somebody&#039;s eating more, folks, &#039;cause I&#039;m eating less.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Yep, since I eat maybe two pounds of sugar per year (if that) somewhere, someone else is eating 300 pounds per year.  Which is not a small amount.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Like sugar, HFCS is fine in moderation!&#8221;  Yeah, now define &#8220;moderation.&#8221;  If you drank one 12 ounce soda a day and ate no other sugar at all &#8212; no ketchup, no canned baked beans &#8212; nothing &#8212; you&#8217;d be getting something like ten times the sugar our ancestors were eating a couple of hundred years ago.  So what&#8217;s &#8220;moderation?&#8221;  My sugar intake *is* moderate, which is to say, I don&#8217;t refuse to use stuff like Worcestershire because it has sugar in it, but that&#8217;s about the extent of my sugar consumption.  It&#8217;s the American idea of &#8220;moderation&#8221; that is *wildly* immoderate.  </p>
<p>BTW, Dr. Mike, I smiled at this: &#8220;However, since I eat no sweeteners throughout the day, someone else has to eat double to keep the averages the same.&#8221;  For years I&#8217;ve been telling people &#8220;The average American eats 152 pounds of sugar per year &#8212; and somebody&#8217;s eating more, folks, &#8217;cause I&#8217;m eating less.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Yep, since I eat maybe two pounds of sugar per year (if that) somewhere, someone else is eating 300 pounds per year.  Which is not a small amount.</em></p>
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		<title>By: RobLL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobLL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Report on cauliflower stuffing:

Make this in accordance with your own traditional:
saute 1 lb of sausage
add one chopped onion and equal volume of chopped celery
I add a fairly large amount of poultry seasoning
add one chopped head of cauliflower
add one can of decent chicken broth
Cook until cauliflower has lost its cabbage like taste, DO NOT overcook (this is the secret to all faux cauliflower recipes - potato salad, mashed potatoes, gratins etc. There is a magic window where it is tender and kind of tasteless (sorry, couln&#039;t think of a better word)

It was better the second day when I had some good turkey gravy. It does not have the great mouth feel of a good bread/cornbread stuffing, but otherwise is pretty good. I suspect that had the gravy had pieces of giblets or other turkey meat it would have been even better. It is better than OK. On Thanksgiving day itself I had just a small serving of regular stuffing, and my blood sugars were not much affected.

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the recipe.  It sounds great.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Report on cauliflower stuffing:</p>
<p>Make this in accordance with your own traditional:<br />
saute 1 lb of sausage<br />
add one chopped onion and equal volume of chopped celery<br />
I add a fairly large amount of poultry seasoning<br />
add one chopped head of cauliflower<br />
add one can of decent chicken broth<br />
Cook until cauliflower has lost its cabbage like taste, DO NOT overcook (this is the secret to all faux cauliflower recipes &#8211; potato salad, mashed potatoes, gratins etc. There is a magic window where it is tender and kind of tasteless (sorry, couln&#8217;t think of a better word)</p>
<p>It was better the second day when I had some good turkey gravy. It does not have the great mouth feel of a good bread/cornbread stuffing, but otherwise is pretty good. I suspect that had the gravy had pieces of giblets or other turkey meat it would have been even better. It is better than OK. On Thanksgiving day itself I had just a small serving of regular stuffing, and my blood sugars were not much affected.</p>
<p><em>Thanks for the recipe.  It sounds great.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Eades,

I was hoping to get your thoughts on this protein powder here;
http://www.allmaxnutrition.com/139-IsoNatural-Original-2lbs.aspx

It&#039;s pure whey, I&#039;ve tried it and I prefer it over the powders that are artificially sweetened. I don&#039;t like the taste of artificial sweeteners.

Also, now that this powder has been brought to your attention, would you consider switching over to it? Why, why not? Is there anything particularly better about the MRM protein that you have suggested above?

&lt;em&gt;The protein product in your link is a good one.  But it is also an expensive one.  There are a several methods of processing whey, with the two most commonly found in protein powders being whey isolate and whey concentrate.  Of the two, the whey isolate is vastly more expensive.  But I don&#039;t think necessarily worth the extra money.  The whey is a good source for good quality protein, i.e., all the essential amino acids.  The whey concentrate provides these amino acids at substantially less expense than the whey isolate.

Cold processing supposedly ensures that the specific peptides in the whey aren&#039;t denatured (altered in structure) so that the immune-enhancing effects aren&#039;t reduced.  Problem is that whey itself is a byproduct of cheese making, which is done at high temperatures, so the proteins in the whey have already gone through a denaturing process.  So, from that perspective, the cold processing is sort of like closing the barn door after the horse is already out.

The MRM protein uses no artificial sweeteners - it is sweetened with a little stevia.  And it costs $23 per container.  The same size protein powder in the link you provide costs $45.  It is a little better product overall, but not, in my opinion, worth the almost doubling in price.&lt;/em&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Eades,</p>
<p>I was hoping to get your thoughts on this protein powder here;<br />
<a href="http://www.allmaxnutrition.com/139-IsoNatural-Original-2lbs.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.allmaxnutrition.com/139-IsoNatural-Original-2lbs.aspx</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s pure whey, I&#8217;ve tried it and I prefer it over the powders that are artificially sweetened. I don&#8217;t like the taste of artificial sweeteners.</p>
<p>Also, now that this powder has been brought to your attention, would you consider switching over to it? Why, why not? Is there anything particularly better about the MRM protein that you have suggested above?</p>
<p><em>The protein product in your link is a good one.  But it is also an expensive one.  There are a several methods of processing whey, with the two most commonly found in protein powders being whey isolate and whey concentrate.  Of the two, the whey isolate is vastly more expensive.  But I don&#8217;t think necessarily worth the extra money.  The whey is a good source for good quality protein, i.e., all the essential amino acids.  The whey concentrate provides these amino acids at substantially less expense than the whey isolate.</p>
<p>Cold processing supposedly ensures that the specific peptides in the whey aren&#8217;t denatured (altered in structure) so that the immune-enhancing effects aren&#8217;t reduced.  Problem is that whey itself is a byproduct of cheese making, which is done at high temperatures, so the proteins in the whey have already gone through a denaturing process.  So, from that perspective, the cold processing is sort of like closing the barn door after the horse is already out.</p>
<p>The MRM protein uses no artificial sweeteners &#8211; it is sweetened with a little stevia.  And it costs $23 per container.  The same size protein powder in the link you provide costs $45.  It is a little better product overall, but not, in my opinion, worth the almost doubling in price.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alicia makes a good point about the problem of free access to knowledge. One thing to add is the collusion (deliberate or not) of the government in providing horrendous dietary advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alicia makes a good point about the problem of free access to knowledge. One thing to add is the collusion (deliberate or not) of the government in providing horrendous dietary advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read that one of the reasons HFCS is used in soooo many products in the US is because it increases the shelf-life of foods.  That means it acts as some kind of preservative.  That&#039;s kind of scary to me.  Would regular sugar have done this or is it something unique to corn syrup?  

And of course, that extra sweet taste in products that would not normally be sweet has a tendency for making us want to eat more of them than we normally would.

Add the above to being cheap to use and HFCS is definitely an all-around boon for the food industry.

Incidentally, on the trusting in the free market comment---in order for the free market theory to function it means there is free access to knowledge for all parties.  That is certainly not the case between manufacturers and consumers.   It is not a level playing field. Their livelihood depends upon the ignorance of the consumer, and they take full advantage of it.  Any threat to their livelihood and they haul out the marketing and lobbying machine.   

PS  I tried to click on the parody video, and it said it was no longer available...are &quot;evil&quot; forces at work here or just technical difficulties?

&lt;em&gt;Yes, HFCS does increase the shelf life of foods.  So does sugar.  I don&#039;t know if there is a difference in the two in terms of shelf life.

I just clicked on the parody video, and it works fine.  Maybe it was just down for some reason when you tried it.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read that one of the reasons HFCS is used in soooo many products in the US is because it increases the shelf-life of foods.  That means it acts as some kind of preservative.  That&#8217;s kind of scary to me.  Would regular sugar have done this or is it something unique to corn syrup?  </p>
<p>And of course, that extra sweet taste in products that would not normally be sweet has a tendency for making us want to eat more of them than we normally would.</p>
<p>Add the above to being cheap to use and HFCS is definitely an all-around boon for the food industry.</p>
<p>Incidentally, on the trusting in the free market comment&#8212;in order for the free market theory to function it means there is free access to knowledge for all parties.  That is certainly not the case between manufacturers and consumers.   It is not a level playing field. Their livelihood depends upon the ignorance of the consumer, and they take full advantage of it.  Any threat to their livelihood and they haul out the marketing and lobbying machine.   </p>
<p>PS  I tried to click on the parody video, and it said it was no longer available&#8230;are &#8220;evil&#8221; forces at work here or just technical difficulties?</p>
<p><em>Yes, HFCS does increase the shelf life of foods.  So does sugar.  I don&#8217;t know if there is a difference in the two in terms of shelf life.</p>
<p>I just clicked on the parody video, and it works fine.  Maybe it was just down for some reason when you tried it.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Marc   Feel Good Eating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc   Feel Good Eating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Eades,

Sorry to be off topic, but I just wanted to say THANK YOU.
This Thanks giving day I want to let you know how grateful I am for your blog
and all you share. 
That&#039;s all ;-)
Best wishes to you and your loved ones!

Marc

&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the good wishes, Marc.  The same back to you and yours.

Happy Thanksgiving.&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Eades,</p>
<p>Sorry to be off topic, but I just wanted to say THANK YOU.<br />
This Thanks giving day I want to let you know how grateful I am for your blog<br />
and all you share.<br />
That&#8217;s all <img src='http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Best wishes to you and your loved ones!</p>
<p>Marc</p>
<p><em>Thanks for the good wishes, Marc.  The same back to you and yours.</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving.</em></p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just think that it tastes awful. Id rather have sugar. But don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think that it tastes awful. Id rather have sugar. But don&#8217;t.</p>
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